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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:45 AM

Ok, I wanna make this clear that I'm NOT trying to bash NH/SS Fans but honestly, listening to them makes me wonder if they are studying finance too much. Their arguments sounds so much like the popular saying in Stock trading: High Stake = High Return. Considering that last time I check Hinata aren't even a blip on the radar as far as romance about Naruto is concerned


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 12:49 AM

You're not the only one who feels the same way. happy.gif
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 04:25 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Mar 28 2010, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't worry Insurrection, we'll be back to normal debates any second now laugh.gif This thread needs a bit of lighthearted but educational fun breaks from time to time to keep it going and keep it from drifting toward other character bashing. smile.gif

In all honesty Id rather we talk about Sakura's body than continue to post how we dont understand N/H and their fans. Its beginning to look like obsession.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 05:19 AM

^ That.

I say we just stick to NS and stay away from NH/SS. Not a good thing to talk bad about something you don't like all the time





Plus it's not allowed

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 05:28 AM

QUOTE (Froot @ Mar 29 2010, 06:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^ That.

I say we just stick to NS and stay away from NH/SS. Not a good thing to talk bad about something you don't like all the time





Plus it's not allowed

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 05:53 AM

Ok... still on the finance subject... I have a friend in my uni who support NaruHina... He failed Finance... TWICE. Any1 wanna guess why?

The entire subject for that semester was all about shares trading between companies and the last question in the final exam (worth 20 mark out of 50 full mark) is: Which 1 is the better company to invest in? Grade A (This means Low/No risk and therefore low return) or Grade C (high risk and high return)

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 01:31 PM

I just think we should be careful and avoid bad juju, if we don't then karma is going to nail us somehow. Let's let the NH crowd do that to us then they'll be the ones who get hurt.

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 02:43 PM

Now N/H fans are saying that in this upcoming chapter Hinata is going to Ichiraku and have a date with Naruto. facepalm.png
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:03 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Mar 29 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now N/H fans are saying that in this upcoming chapter Hinata is going to Ichiraku and have a date with Naruto. facepalm.png


It will be much more interesting if they claim Sakura is coincidentally sitting next to Naruto, while Hinata happened to be seated 2 km away. tongue.gif

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (RedDelicious @ Mar 29 2010, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It will be much more interesting if they claim Sakura is coincidentally sitting next to Naruto, while Hinata happened to be seated 2 km away. tongue.gif


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 03:50 PM

WHO. CARES. WHAT. THEY. THINK.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 05:16 PM

It's too late Mik3, they're not listening to us anymore, this bashing has to stop.

Edited by Insurrection, 30 March 2010 - 12:51 AM.


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 05:26 PM

YEP^ nh are not worth our time

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 08:16 PM

Ugh. Stop being so bashy. It makes us all look bad, not to mention it is against the rules. Keep fandom out of it and argue points, not people. >.>

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:01 PM

thoughts guys

http://forums.naruto...ad.php?t=606552


like miss soupy said only the point discusses there thoughts don't bash the fandom..some r not even naruhina fans or sasusaku fans...

Edited by firegirl, 29 March 2010 - 09:03 PM.


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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Mar 29 2010, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thoughts guys

http://forums.naruto...ad.php?t=606552


like miss soupy said only the point discusses there thoughts don't bash the fandom..some r not even naruhina fans or sasusaku fans...


Dear god facepalm.png I read that analysis and it's so biased I can't believe I even bothered to read it in the first place. That person is saying that Sakura loves Naruto because Sasuke wasn't there and that she loves him because NOW he's the hero of the village. Now that everyone in Konoha respects him Sakura has no choice but to love him saying that she's shallow. Also that Sakura doesn't love Naruto for who he is facepalm.png dry.gif, I guess that person doesn't know a thing about Sakura's character development because she has seen the real Naruto she had plenty of time to see the real Naruto and that's why she loves him. Sakura was telling the truth in her confession after reading past chapters her actions speaks for themselves that she no longer loves Sasuke romantically but as a friend and teammate.
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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:20 PM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Mar 29 2010, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thoughts guys

http://forums.naruto...ad.php?t=606552


like miss soupy said only the point discusses there thoughts don't bash the fandom..some r not even naruhina fans or sasusaku fans...


What are they talking about?! "Only hardcore NS shippers believe it's real" what the heck..?! facepalm.png I honestly don't know what to say.

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:27 PM

jest ignore them there not worth it

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:31 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 29 2010, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What are they talking about?! "Only hardcore NS shippers believe it's real" what the heck..?! facepalm.png I honestly don't know what to say.


I hear you Shippu-chan that person who wrote that analysis it's clearly saying that Sakura has to stay in love with Sasuke no matter what. No matter if he NEVER love her, or respected her, or that he thought that she was annoying, or that he knocked her out leaving her on a bench after she confessed to him, or the fact that he tried to kill her 3 times. No Sakura is doom to be madly in love with Sasuke even if he could care less about her because he wants to kill her along with everyone in Konoha. She can't move on with her old childish feelings and go to the one person who has ALWAYS love her, the one person she got the chance to see for who he really is NOT what he represents like that person said.

Why can't they understand that people are not destine to find true love once, we move on until we find Mr. or Mrs. right it's not all in one shot. People have the right to fall in love dozens of times it's not only the first time. Sakura decided to go with the person who has always care for her respected her and understood her more than anyone. She didn't left Sasuke onto Naruto in one day she had three years to figure out her feelings I just don't understand why they can't understand that Sakura may have developed strong feelings for Naruto and move on from Sasuke for good. No she has to keep being in love with someone who wants her dead.

Are they doing it for the sake of Hinata so she can be with Naruto and let poor Sakura be with Mr. psycho?

Edited by Gravenimage, 29 March 2010 - 09:36 PM.

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Posted 29 March 2010 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Mar 29 2010, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thoughts guys

http://forums.naruto...ad.php?t=606552


like miss soupy said only the point discusses there thoughts don't bash the fandom..some r not even naruhina fans or sasusaku fans...




Before I get into that, let me say first of all, I have a dislike for Narutofan. Because the majority of the people there are unwilling to compromise or admit anything as solid evidence for the opposing fandoms. So I'm not surprised why they dismiss the confession and cast us as delusional. But now I'm going to show my work.


Looking at 469 chapter 10 onwards, we can see the look of shock on Naruto's face. To me it seems to be the result of two things combined.

1.He has just been told, by the girl he has liked his entire life time, that she has fallen in love with him, seemingly out of nowhere. He had the same reaction to the hug after he defeated Pain.

2.She now suddenly claims to have dropped any semblance of feelings for the person who is their teammate, his best friend and her first love. Their shared goal and desire to bring sasuke back, and suddenly she says she has dropped all of that. He even has flashbacks of her from part one and how much she really cared for sasuke.


Now in Naruto's mind, her confession is coming out of left field. We all know he can be oblivious, just like a lot of us guys do. Ive been guilty of that too. And this IS Naruto, so hes that much denser. He most likely convinced himself that Sakura would always love Sasuke, ever since the hospital scene in part 1. Now im not saying he stop loving her(Even Sai could see that hes in love with her), its never that simple, rather he decided that he just wanted her to be happy. That was why he made the POAL, now just for himself, but also to bring Sasuke back to her. And that promise is what most likely drove him to become stronger over the course of the time skip. So the POAL more or less had become his lifes purpose, and now the person he made the promise too no longer needs him to do it. You can see why he is at first shocked and then angered.

So I can understand why some people would say the confession is a lie, and it partly is concerning her dissapeared feelings for sasuke.


However, then we see her embrace him and tell him how she has watch him grown and how he has been there and how he has brought him piece.

Keep in mind once again, Naruto is having trouble believing this, because she has always complimented him in her thoughts, and then with a caring smile. But this is the first time she has said something to his face. Its a lot to take in.


Now we all remember Naruto cuts her off telling her how he hates people who'd lie. And then we get some more dialogue on how she doesn't care for sasuke anymore, and then she leaves.


So the people who write the confession off, usually already dislike Sakura, so they believe that its just her once again being a horrible, selfish person.


However, she spoke the exact truth the entire time of her confession.

She HAS watched him grow, the entire length of part 2 is littered with her admiring his maturity and his progression. She has been right by him to see how much stronger he;d become and how strong willed of a person he is. She has been on dates with him, she has complimented and encouraged him, tried to feed him and hugged him right after the biggest triumph of his life thus far after saving the village. Naruto wasn't the only one growing, she was too, and so did her affection for him. And it was done through the strength of friendship, which helps create lasting relationships. And he HAS brought her peace, how many times did he assure her they'd bring Sasuke back and she'd believe him? If it was all because of guilt she simply would have told him just to stop, she kind of tried to do that in part one when she was in his hospital room. She told him she loved him because it was the truth, and in or order to belive this you kinda have to believe in sakura as person, who wouldn't like about liking someone like that. She came there and confessed but she wants him to be safe and not have to suffer anymore, she had good, selfless intentions. She is not using him as some consolation prize, she loves him because of who he is, and how he makes her feel.
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