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#4781 T XD

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 3 2012, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe, but she also said that that she was always chasing him and will stop as soon the war ends. Also why should she hold his hand when she just wants to fight by his side. laugh.gif

Hinata doesn't mean by the words she said that she was thinking to get together with him after the war. If you read it literally than it means that way. But, what she was saying that she was going to help him fight along side with him, that's all.

I think there's a 50/50 possibility that Naruto will talk about her confession with her. But I'm not 100% sure about this cause he already talked to her in ch.558 and she was acknowledged by him for her strength and told her not to think that she's weak, so if he wanted to talk to her about her confession, he would have told her in ch.558.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Oct 3 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata doesn't mean by the words she said that she was thinking to get together with him after the war. If you read it literally than it means that way. But, what she was saying that she was going to help him fight along side with him, that's all.

I think there's a 50/50 possibility that Naruto will talk about her confession with her. But I'm not 100% sure about this cause he already talked to her in ch.558 and she was acknowledged by him for her strength and told her not to think that she's weak, so if he wanted to talk to her about her confession, he would have told her in ch.558.


Ok i understand but why the holding hands?

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 3 2012, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok i understand but why the holding hands?

She didn't mean it literally either, on all what she said in this chapter. She was implying it as supporting him and being his friend.
She already confessed, so her mission about opening finally and giving the best of her interest to Naruto is done. Now, we'll see if Naruto will do something more about her confession or not, though sometimes I have the feeling that he already did his part in ch.558. Well, we'll see biggrin.gif

Edited by T XD, 03 October 2012 - 05:02 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Oct 3 2012, 06:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She didn't mean it literally either, on all what she said in this chapter. She was implying it as supporting him and being his friend.
She already confessed, so her mission about opening finally and giving the best of her interest to Naruto is done. Now, we'll see if Naruto will do something more about her confession or not, though sometimes I have the feeling that he already did his part in ch.558. Well, we'll see biggrin.gif

Yeah maybe but well see.

Other thing, does anyone else think that naruto lets him self killed by sasuke during there fight so sasuke turns good because he remembers how his family died and now deep inside him he knows he killed a friend.
And before he dies he confesses to sakura and as soon hes dead she cries and also says that she loves him.

But than someone comes (dont know who maybe tsunade if shes still alive) and revives him and then sasuke is back and naruto comes together with sakura.

Would be kind of cool and dramatic dont you think??

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 3 2012, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah maybe but well see.

Other thing, does anyone else think that naruto lets him self killed by sasuke during there fight so sasuke turns good because he remembers how his family died and now deep inside him he knows he killed a friend.
And before he dies he confesses to sakura and as soon hes dead she cries and also says that she loves him.

But than someone comes (dont know who maybe tsunade if shes still alive) and revives him and then sasuke is back and naruto comes together with sakura.

Would be kind of cool and dramatic dont you think??

I too sometimes think that we'll see Naruto is dying, not dead though, and all the dramatic that could happen between him and Sakura.
But let him self kill, seems like a far possibility but it's a one way to let Sasuke of what he has turned into, though still, it's not that much of an option to change Sasuke.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:10 AM

As far as Hinata's words in 573 go, there's some argument to be made that aspects of it could be platonic. The manga page that you guys posted of Shikamaru saying that he wants to walk with Naruto, as well as this page in the same chapter where both Couji and Shikamaru ask Naruto to wait for them:

There is one thing about Hinata's whole speech that is pretty undeniably romantic in nature though, and that is her claim that she's going to hold Naruto's hand after this is all over. That's a decidedly non-platonic gesture, and unlike wanting to walk by his side, its not really symbolic of platonic support.

Personally, I just think that her feelings are being brought up in more frequency in this arc because they are about to be resolved; either she's just going to witness some interaction between Naruto and Sakura that hits home the fact that Naruto loves Sakura and not her, or she's going to make a move on Naruto that spurs Sakura emotionally in regards to Naruto (like how realizing Hinata loved Naruto bothered her, Hinata making some sort of move on Naruto may also bother Sakura, leading her to question why it does, leading her to question the true nature of her feelings for Naruto).

Both of those scenarios are far more consistent with what we've been given so far than a scenario in which Hinata holds Naruto's hand and he suddenly starts reciprocating her feelings (at least imo).

As far as Naruto "dying", I fully agree that its a likely scenario. I think that the OVA scene increases the possibility of a scenario in which Sakura thinks that Naruto is dead - such a moment could be exactly what leads to a romantic epiphany on Sakura's part. I can imagine a set up very similar to Ranma's love epiphany in Ranma 1/2, where he could only finally admit to loving Akane after he thought that she had died.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:07 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Oct 4 2012, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as Hinata's words in 573 go, there's some argument to be made that aspects of it could be platonic. The manga page that you guys posted of Shikamaru saying that he wants to walk with Naruto, as well as this page in the same chapter where both Couji and Shikamaru ask Naruto to wait for them:

There is one thing about Hinata's whole speech that is pretty undeniably romantic in nature though, and that is her claim that she's going to hold Naruto's hand after this is all over. That's a decidedly non-platonic gesture, and unlike wanting to walk by his side, its not really symbolic of platonic support.

Personally, I just think that her feelings are being brought up in more frequency in this arc because they are about to be resolved; either she's just going to witness some interaction between Naruto and Sakura that hits home the fact that Naruto loves Sakura and not her, or she's going to make a move on Naruto that spurs Sakura emotionally in regards to Naruto (like how realizing Hinata loved Naruto bothered her, Hinata making some sort of move on Naruto may also bother Sakura, leading her to question why it does, leading her to question the true nature of her feelings for Naruto).

Both of those scenarios are far more consistent with what we've been given so far than a scenario in which Hinata holds Naruto's hand and he suddenly starts reciprocating her feelings (at least imo).

As far as Naruto "dying", I fully agree that its a likely scenario. I think that the OVA scene increases the possibility of a scenario in which Sakura thinks that Naruto is dead - such a moment could be exactly what leads to a romantic epiphany on Sakura's part. I can imagine a set up very similar to Ranma's love epiphany in Ranma 1/2, where he could only finally admit to loving Akane after he thought that she had died.

Totally agree. I can also remember one of the latest interviews where kishi mentioned that naruto and sasuke will meet again during the war. I think there is a huge possibilty of sakura maybe loosing the rest of her feelings for sasuke.

Maybe he tries to kill sakura again biggrin.gif

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 07:38 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Oct 3 2012, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as Hinata's words in 573 go, there's some argument to be made that aspects of it could be platonic. The manga page that you guys posted of Shikamaru saying that he wants to walk with Naruto, as well as this page in the same chapter where both Couji and Shikamaru ask Naruto to wait for them:

There is one thing about Hinata's whole speech that is pretty undeniably romantic in nature though, and that is her claim that she's going to hold Naruto's hand after this is all over. That's a decidedly non-platonic gesture, and unlike wanting to walk by his side, its not really symbolic of platonic support.

Personally, I just think that her feelings are being brought up in more frequency in this arc because they are about to be resolved; either she's just going to witness some interaction between Naruto and Sakura that hits home the fact that Naruto loves Sakura and not her, or she's going to make a move on Naruto that spurs Sakura emotionally in regards to Naruto (like how realizing Hinata loved Naruto bothered her, Hinata making some sort of move on Naruto may also bother Sakura, leading her to question why it does, leading her to question the true nature of her feelings for Naruto).

Both of those scenarios are far more consistent with what we've been given so far than a scenario in which Hinata holds Naruto's hand and he suddenly starts reciprocating her feelings (at least imo).

As far as Naruto "dying", I fully agree that its a likely scenario. I think that the OVA scene increases the possibility of a scenario in which Sakura thinks that Naruto is dead - such a moment could be exactly what leads to a romantic epiphany on Sakura's part. I can imagine a set up very similar to Ranma's love epiphany in Ranma 1/2, where he could only finally admit to loving Akane after he thought that she had died.

Great post. I really like your ideas for the future events.

Everyone got their resolves in terms of side characters alas K11. As I mentioned before, it is 50/50 chance that Hinata's confession will be addressed. It will be used for a plot device for Naruto and Sakura, and yes, that's what I'm sticking to it. The other 50 will be ignored altogether and just let it be as a development for her, not NH, even though it's already looks that way in the first place. I mean noticed that we are now getting main characters' developments. Kakashi is going to get a big one and perhaps the last one. Guess who will be the cure: Naruto. If that's the case, it would seem Naruto will be the one to be the key to the developments for his team, whom are main characters. That said Sakura will get the talk with Naruto without a doubt. Kakashi will get a development to move forward and what not by Naruto. Sakura will realize her feelings for Naruto. Sasuke will become good due to Naruto. It's all according to the plan to Kishi at this point. I mean Tsunade's possible death (hopefully not) already setting up for Naruto and Sakura. Remember, Naruto was already very upset to see Madara coming back alone. So yeah, it's all coming together.

As for Sakura's realization, the way you pointed out is a pretty good idea and could be possible. It's like how in Inuyasha and some other ones has the heroine upset for seeing another person with the hero, but doesn't know why until she hits that moment that awaken her feelings. Sakura does seem uncomfortable for Hinata to love Naruto. I mean the way how its portrayed really gives that sense. Of course, she won't expose that emotion at that moment because that time wasn't a good time. She is known to keep her feelings inside. Sakura is always about feelings and even Ino knows that she does it so often. So, there are two routes for Sakura's realization, though there are more but these are the two.

1) Witnessing Hinata with Naruto that will cause her to feel uncomfortable. Go through some envy emotion, only to realize why she is feeling this way.

2) Naruto hugs her before the last fight with Sasuke. This is one way to prove that Naruto is really serious with her and she will get some insight that Naruto really cares for her. Remember, she knows he loves her but the question is: why.

Naruto's dying can happen and seems like the best bet is on Sakura to go forth. She's a medic. Again, she worries about him heavily. Those worry emotion is a sign of more than friendship, especially heavily worry. Most, if not all the time, the heroine worrying/screaming for the hero usually means she is attracted (depends on the circumstance like she's his sister and what not). Worry is like half way there to love. It sounds strange but trust me, that just how it is.

As for the future events, the way I image it is this. Obito will still be like the boss battle of this arc. Madara most likely will live for another day. Not sure Obito's fate. The reason why I said Madara will live after this is because well, it seems like we will get his flashback to see how everything begins like his survival. Sasuke will learn the truth. Then, commence the final phase. Everyone will get their final words before the epic battle. Sasuke will meet Naruto but after the problem we are dealing with now, because we are going to get a rest. After all, the Kages are in great danger. If Sasuke comes now, it will be the fight. So, pretty much, the war will pause, not end. It will end once everyone get their stuff ready. Also, Kakashi will tell Naruto the story of Obito, of course in a short summary. There's a lot of discussion to have before the final arc. Besides, Sasuke is far away from the battle, so yeah, until then, let's just settle this battle.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 08:44 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto's dying can happen and seems like the best bet is on Sakura to go forth. She's a medic. Again, she worries about him heavily. Those worry emotion is a sign of more than friendship, especially heavily worry. Most, if not all the time, the heroine worrying/screaming for the hero usually means she is attracted (depends on the circumstance like she's his sister and what not). Worry is like half way there to love. It sounds strange but trust me, that just how it is.

The only question is who could ve able to revive naruto if tsunade really dies?? Dont know anybody maybe obito?? lol

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 4 2012, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Totally agree. I can also remember one of the latest interviews where kishi mentioned that naruto and sasuke will meet again during the war. I think there is a huge possibilty of sakura maybe loosing the rest of her feelings for sasuke.

Maybe he tries to kill sakura again biggrin.gif


I don't remember Kishi saying that Naruto and Sasuke will meet again during the war. He said that he was planning to have their fight by the end of the series.
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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:34 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Oct 4 2012, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't remember Kishi saying that Naruto and Sasuke will meet again during the war. He said that he was planning to have their fight by the end of the series.

It was an interview from juli ithink it was the one he announced that tobis identity will be revealed after few weeks

To add: what do you guys think about the new opening seems to support NS again

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 4 2012, 03:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was an interview from juli ithink it was the one he announced that tobis identity will be revealed after few weeks

To add: what do you guys think about the new opening seems to support NS again


Oh...I don't remember he said that but if he did then I guess it won't be for a while. Right now Kishi's covering Obito's back story which it might take 2/3 chapters and then the fight with Obito, Kakashi, Gai and Madara with Naruto and Bee that can take more than 5 chapters, and with the rookie's interference it might take even longer. Then going back to Sasuke wherever he left with Orochimaru and the meeting with whoever he's planning in meeting. There's still a lot of chapters to go through before a third Naruto/Sasuke meeting can take place.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Oct 4 2012, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was an interview from juli ithink it was the one he announced that tobis identity will be revealed after few weeks

To add: what do you guys think about the new opening seems to support NS again

Although it was nice to see them walk together at the start, it was pretty clear that the beginning scenes were more focused on how Naruto and Sakura both missed Sasuke. They even emphasized Sakura's feelings for him by making her teary eyed.

I don't mind at all since it's not something we don't already know. Maybe in the future we could get a potential opening focused on Naruto and Sakura, especially if my hopes for them teaming up in the battlefield when the alliance gets there actually happens.

I can't get this scenario out of my head of Naruto and Sakura fighting together against Madara (Naruto would be the main powerhouse and Sakura would be the strategist serving as support) and then Obito sees Naruto protecting Sakura and starts pondering on how what Naruto is doing at that moment is what he always hoped he could do for Rin but never got the chance to because she died.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 01:41 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great post. I really like your ideas for the future events.

Everyone got their resolves in terms of side characters alas K11. As I mentioned before, it is 50/50 chance that Hinata's confession will be addressed. It will be used for a plot device for Naruto and Sakura, and yes, that's what I'm sticking to it. The other 50 will be ignored altogether and just let it be as a development for her, not NH, even though it's already looks that way in the first place. I mean noticed that we are now getting main characters' developments. Kakashi is going to get a big one and perhaps the last one. Guess who will be the cure: Naruto. If that's the case, it would seem Naruto will be the one to be the key to the developments for his team, whom are main characters. That said Sakura will get the talk with Naruto without a doubt. Kakashi will get a development to move forward and what not by Naruto. Sakura will realize her feelings for Naruto. Sasuke will become good due to Naruto. It's all according to the plan to Kishi at this point. I mean Tsunade's possible death (hopefully not) already setting up for Naruto and Sakura. Remember, Naruto was already very upset to see Madara coming back alone. So yeah, it's all coming together.

As for the future events, the way I image it is this. Obito will still be like the boss battle of this arc. Madara most likely will live for another day. Not sure Obito's fate. The reason why I said Madara will live after this is because well, it seems like we will get his flashback to see how everything begins like his survival. Sasuke will learn the truth. Then, commence the final phase. Everyone will get their final words before the epic battle. Sasuke will meet Naruto but after the problem we are dealing with now, because we are going to get a rest. After all, the Kages are in great danger. If Sasuke comes now, it will be the fight. So, pretty much, the war will pause, not end. It will end once everyone get their stuff ready. Also, Kakashi will tell Naruto the story of Obito, of course in a short summary. There's a lot of discussion to have before the final arc. Besides, Sasuke is far away from the battle, so yeah, until then, let's just settle this battle.


I'm kinda hoping it won't be Naruto who gets Kakashi out of his funk, I could accept it if he did a bit of nudging, but nothing more than that. I'd rather have someone else do that. What Kakashi needs is someone who can make him tell everything. If I'm correct, KnS had some sort of KakaShizu fantasy tongue.gif . To me, that makes a bit of sense. All of Kakashi's classmates/his generation know about his past, but it seems that even then, he still wouldn't let anyone know what's really going on in his heart. He has pretty much built a wall against his friends, much like Naruto is doing. However, Shizune is an outsider although she's supposed to be his age. She was never in the village until Tsunade came back.

My guess is, that she might try to pry into his secrets when she tries some psychiatry on him. Shizune, to me, can be forceful enough if she wants to. The difference between her and the other Jounins is that since the Jounins already know, Kakashi probably wouldn't feel as obliged to tell them everything, but with her, he'd be forced to. If that happens, I expect him to pour out everything like a wide bucket unconsciously.

Of course, this is my speculation. But I feel that if he can get hooked up, he may get the happy ending he deserves after all the crap he's been put through.

Regarding Tsunade, yes, I do see a NS moment coming up with it. And also, I do hope that NH is finally resolved and it pushes NS into the right direction.

Edited by Codus N, 04 October 2012 - 01:41 PM.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Oct 4 2012, 09:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm kinda hoping it won't be Naruto who gets Kakashi out of his funk, I could accept it if he did a bit of nudging, but nothing more than that. I'd rather have someone else do that. What Kakashi needs is someone who can make him tell everything. If I'm correct, KnS had some sort of KakaShizu fantasy tongue.gif . To me, that makes a bit of sense. All of Kakashi's classmates/his generation know about his past, but it seems that even then, he still wouldn't let anyone know what's really going on in his heart. He has pretty much built a wall against his friends, much like Naruto is doing. However, Shizune is an outsider although she's supposed to be his age. She was never in the village until Tsunade came back.

My guess is, that she might try to pry into his secrets when she tries some psychiatry on him. Shizune, to me, can be forceful enough if she wants to. The difference between her and the other Jounins is that since the Jounins already know, Kakashi probably wouldn't feel as obliged to tell them everything, but with her, he'd be forced to. If that happens, I expect him to pour out everything like a wide bucket unconsciously.

Of course, this is my speculation. But I feel that if he can get hooked up, he may get the happy ending he deserves after all the crap he's been put through.

Regarding Tsunade, yes, I do see a NS moment coming up with it. And also, I do hope that NH is finally resolved and it pushes NS into the right direction.

I understand that. It's just that it seems Kishi is setting up for Kakashi to be healed by Naruto, because well, at one point, Naruto made him feel good again after remembering the moment Obito "died." He thanked Naruto for that and continued to fight. Now, it seems like he's going through a mental breakdown. I don't know how is going to work out for Kakashi, but Naruto is willing to hear the story from him once they can stop the plan going through. That could be point where Kakashi will get his mind straight. It's hard to say for now, but I feel that Naruto will save him from becoming a empty man.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:57 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Oct 4 2012, 06:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If I'm correct, KnS had some sort of KakaShizu fantasy tongue.gif . To me, that makes a bit of sense. All of Kakashi's classmates/his generation know about his past, but it seems that even then, he still wouldn't let anyone know what's really going on in his heart. He has pretty much built a wall against his friends, much like Naruto is doing. However, Shizune is an outsider although she's supposed to be his age. She was never in the village until Tsunade came back.

My guess is, that she might try to pry into his secrets when she tries some psychiatry on him. Shizune, to me, can be forceful enough if she wants to. The difference between her and the other Jounins is that since the Jounins already know, Kakashi probably wouldn't feel as obliged to tell them everything, but with her, he'd be forced to. If that happens, I expect him to pour out everything like a wide bucket unconsciously.

Yes! I do have a fantasy an interest in seeing Kakashi and Shizune get together. happy.gif I wish I had time to write the story that's in my head, but between NS and Gaara all my free writing time is taken.

I like your reasoning for a Kakashi/Shizune relationship. Besides what you've mentioned, another aspect I like is their shared experience of being killed and resurrected by Pain. I imagine that sort of common ground could lead to a deep and natural bond.

And Shizune may soon find her life a lot... emptier. She may need a strong shoulder to cry on. sad.gif


QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's hard to say for now, but I feel that Naruto will save him from becoming a empty man.

I'd say Naruto already has saved him. I think that point was settled during Kakashi's meeting with his father. Kakashi will be shaken by Obito's return, no question, but I'm not sold on the idea that he's going to crumble into a million pieces that only Naruto can glue back together.

Don't get me wrong; I understand that Naruto is the story's savior. But he lacks practical life experience. His power of persuasion and hope lies in his boundless energy and naïveté. What perspective can he share that Kakashi doesn't already know? What intense, never-give-up speech can he give that Kakashi hasn't already heard and taken to heart before? How many times can Kishimoto rely purely on Naruto's simple logic and bravado to convert people or restore their faith? I wonder.

Depending on how the details turn out, it could be that Kakashi and Obito's story will have an equal if not greater effect on Naruto's perspective -- including his love for Sakura and his friendship with Sasuke -- than his reaction will have on either of them. Just a thought.

Edited by KnS, 06 October 2012 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 05 October 2012 - 04:49 AM

QUOTE (KnS @ Oct 4 2012, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd say Naruto already has saved him. I think that point was settled during Kakashi's meeting with his father. Kakashi will be shaken by Obito's return, no question, but I'm not sold on the idea that he's going to crumble into a million pieces that only Naruto can glue back together.

Don't get me wrong; I understand that Naruto is the story's savior. But he lacks practical life experience. His power of persuasion and hope lies in his boundless energy and naïveté. What perspective can he share that Kakashi doesn't already know? What intense, never-give-up speech can he give that Kakashi hasn't already heard and taken to heart before? How many times can Kishimoto rely purely on Naruto's simple logic and bravado to convert people or restore their faith? I wonder.

Depending on how the details turn out, it could be that Kakashi and Obito's story will have an equal if not greater affect on Naruto's perspective -- including his love for Sakura and his friendship with Sasuke -- than his reaction will have on either of them. Just a thought.

You have a good point. I don't know at the moment. I just think that Kishi is building up for Naruto to save him from becoming an empty man. I know he don't have that experience, but I just got a feeling that he will save him. I do believe they will share development once Kakashi tells the story of Obito to Naruto (it will be funny if we have to see his gaiden one more time). Anyway, I do believe Naruto will learn something from Kakashi as he learns something from Naruto. Perhaps Kakashi won't think about killing people anymore (depending on the situation). He will have a good heart and no longer get his hand dirty anymore. I mean he was thinking to kill Sasuke right away. Not that I blame him, but still. Anyway, perhaps we should hold on to this until further notice. All I can say is this: Kakashi will live.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:18 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All I can say is this: Kakashi will live.


Ands that what they said about Tsunade.
Who's they, the people I just assumed that assumed that Tsunade will live after her meeting with Dan.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 05:34 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Oct 5 2012, 01:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ands that what they said about Tsunade.
Who's they, the people I just assumed that assumed that Tsunade will live after her meeting with Dan.

I never count on her to have a plot armor. Sorry to say it that way. The reason why I said Kakashi will live is two things:

1) He is part of Team 7 and main character.

2) It will ruin Naruto's character in terms of surpassing.

I do take Jiraiya's words seriously, because it's obvious to be seen as a compare/contrast with Naruto. If Naruto loses Kakashi, then he fails to go against the odd that Jiraiya already failed. If that happens, then start worrying for him not being with Sakura. I will bet you that Kakashi will survive this. Mark my word.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Perhaps Kakashi won't think about killing people anymore (depending on the situation). He will have a good heart and no longer get his hand dirty anymore. I mean he was thinking to kill Sasuke right away. Not that I blame him, but still.

But don't you think it's possible Naruto took care of all that already, during the Team 7 reunion? As you point out, Kakashi (and Sakura and everyone else) was ready to kill Sasuke because it was an expedient solution to their immediate problem. But Naruto basically squashed that entire line of reasoning by rising above it all, by affirming his intention to remain Sasuke's friend to the end, and take on all of Sasuke's hate while defending the village. I can't imagine Naruto could convey a stronger message to Kakashi than that one, and I doubt Kakashi has forgotten it already. If anything he's about to get the opportunity to apply the concept in his own life.

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All I can say is this: Kakashi will live.

Interesting you'd say this. I was thinking earlier today, about the possibility that Kishimoto might rekill a character that he's already killed once. It doesn't really seem Kishi's style, but you never know.

To be honest, I have considered the possibility that Kakashi will be the one to die again. There was something about the description of how Kamui works... it made me wonder if he and Obito might fight and use Kamui on each other, and end up marooned together in the dead zone or something -- cancel each other out and be unable to get back. Sort of like that classic Star Trek episode where the two versions of Dr. Lazarus had to enter the corridor between the matter and antimatter universes at the same time, and then would be stuck there forever. Having got the idea from Naruto -- to take on all the misery of your best friend and die with him -- it might be something Kakashi would do.

I don't know. I'm probably just being paranoid.


QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Oct 4 2012, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2) It will ruin Naruto's character in terms of surpassing.

I do take Jiraiya's words seriously, because it's obvious to be seen as a compare/contrast with Naruto. If Naruto loses Kakashi, then he fails to go against the odd that Jiraiya already failed. If that happens, then start worrying for him not being with Sakura. I will bet you that Kakashi will survive this. Mark my word.

Hmm. I always thought that in personal terms, it was Jiraiya's failures that Naruto would surpass -- by recovering his friend from the dark path and getting the girl. In leadership terms, he will surpass everyone and find the way to peace. Unless I'm not thinking clearly (it's very late and I'm tired), I don't think Kakashi has anything left for Naruto to surpass -- Kakashi himself has already admitted that Naruto has surpassed him.

Of course, that doesn't diminish Kakashi's importance to the team or the story, I'm just saying I don't think his final death would in any way ruin Naruto's character or success. Just my opinion.

Edited by KnS, 05 October 2012 - 06:14 AM.





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