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Posted 15 June 2010 - 01:47 AM

QUOTE (New Revolution @ Jun 15 2010, 01:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yep 2009 interview kish stated it because of sakura bashers hateing her this is confirmed but you need the correct trans.


but i read the interview and nothing was like you said and i think that interview was before chapter 469
so how
if you can copy it exactly from the interview it is good .and thanks

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 01:53 AM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 14 2010, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but i read the interview and nothing was like you said and i think that interview was before chapter 469
so how
if you can copy it exactly from the interview it is good .and thanks


Actually the interview was after 469 but before 474.

Edited by Gravenimage, 15 June 2010 - 01:55 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 02:22 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 14 2010, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ABOUT 474 - English version!

I just got back from Walmart and bought [Believe it or not] a Shonen Jump Magazine though technically my mother bought it. And, uh-hm *drumroll* it happens to have 472-474 - and in it I shall explain!

______________________________________________Chapter 474 explanation_______________________________________________

Everyone hold your breathes because... The OneManga translation was right on it! =D They actually made it seem less SS then the English (official) translation is! When it Sai says "Killing the one she loves" in the official it says "... For having fallen in love with him." =O Holy moly - this "official" Shonen Jump version is all about Sakura loving Sasuke, but Sai does say the Sakura loves Naruto =D woo! Naruto was the one that kept saying Sakura loved Sasuke =l but Sai said thats the reason she wants to kill him! To redeem herself because she fell in love with him [Sasuke] and trying to rid of her feelings of him.

But wait there's more! I also wanna state something else it said In the Previous Issues... box thing.



That what it said word for word =L does this mean Sakura's confession was true? Will we ever know? Am I really nuts! Who knows? Kishimoto does! Hope this helps you guys ^^



Uh, Shippu-Chan, I think your excitement made you hard to understand. Or maybe I'm just easily confused. sweatdrop.gif What does it actually say? And if we could, we should probably put this in the 474 thread, if it's still up.

I guess I'm asking for what the script went like. How does Sai say Sakura loves Naruto?

Edited by Insurrection, 15 June 2010 - 02:44 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:02 AM

Meh, who cares, we already know Sai wanted to address Naruto's feeling of her. wink.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:21 AM

Boo yeah! Score one for Sakura! biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:24 AM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Jun 14 2010, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but i read the interview and nothing was like you said and i think that interview was before chapter 469
so how
if you can copy it exactly from the interview it is good .and thanks


Graven is right, and in the correct version, not the messed up "summary" that first went out over the Naruto forums, that sentence is there, as well as Kishimoto's annoyance at the Sakura bashing letters he recieved after 469 came out. It was the Sakura bashing letters he recieved from certain fans trashing Sakura and saying she was using Naruto's feelings that promoted Kishimoto to say- "On the contrary I was writing her there as an honest and suprisingly determined girl." This was also the version of the interview where he expressed annoyance from the same letters of certain readers going on and on about how great Hinata was, how much more heroic she was than Sakura. Kishimoto couldn't understand that reading of the manga- Sakura is the main heroine, and as a result of recieving those negative letters from now on he would concentrate even more on Sakura and make her even more heroic. (In other words he wants those readers to come to love Sakura, he believes giving even more focus to Sakura will win those readers over. I think he's being a bit optimistic, but hey, those of us who like Sakura were very happy to hear that we would be seeing even more of Sakura.)

From Viz's previous issue box text the later transcript with the clearly marked sentences is rather obviously the correct version (Frankly, I knew that was obvious from the get go- looking at how Kishimoto has talked about Sakura in other interviews, and the fact that version was actually coherent where the "summary" was a muddled mess where you couldn't tell who said what or in what context. The "summary" effectively muddied the waters so that when a fairly accurate transcript came out- with the bits above most that were missing or hopelessly muddled in the "summary"- it threw the later accurate transcript into doubt amongst Naruto fan forums.)

Edited by ciardha, 15 June 2010 - 03:35 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:41 AM

Oh yeah I remembers the messed up summary from the interview all right:

"Hinata is a better heroine than Sakura. dry.gif "

"Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke.... rolleyes.gif"

And the list go on but thank goodness we finally know the correct version of the interview and the real translation from 474.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:46 AM

What does the real translation say? I read Shippuden Girl's post but I want to know what the whole thing says.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:50 AM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 14 2010, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What does the real translation say? I read Shippuden Girl's post but I want to know what the whole thing says.


That Sai was talking about Sakura loving Sasuke in the"past" tense and he said that Sakura loves Naruto. Kishi said it clearly that he thought he was an honest and surprisingly determined girl, the author himself said so.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 14 2010, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Sai was talking about Sakura loving Sasuke in the"past" tense and he said that Sakura loves Naruto. Kishi said it clearly that he thought he was an honest and surprisingly determined girl, the author himself said so.


I meant script of US 474.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:52 AM

Don't worry, Naruto has to tell Sakura the truth about the bench scene some time before the manga ends otherwise Sakura's love for Sasuke will continue to be based on a lie. happy.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:54 AM

Oh boy, I glad we've finally got the corrected translation of 474 because I was so sick and tired of hearing all the hate against Sakura, although that won't stop the hate with some of the fans. rawr.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 04:09 AM

I just want to add- Hallujah Viz! Stating with no qualifiers- Sakura is in love with Naruto- period. That the problem was, just as many of us here felt- Naruto still seeing Sakura as the Sasuke fangirl, being blind to how she had grown up and changed- even comedically hinted in chapter 248 when he sees her for the first time in two and half years and when she flirtatously asks if she "looks more womanly now" he obliviously states- "no, you look exactly the same".

Sakura, on the other hand spots how Naruto has grown and changed straight off. Naruto doesn't notice the changes in Sakura until it's right in his face- when she punches the ground during the second bell test, when she saves Kankuro, etc...

Sai's words seem to have finally literally broken the image he had of Sakura in his head of the 12 year Sasuke fangirl, for the first time in that chapter we see him picture Sakura as she is, in his head. His words and actions from the point he rescues Sakura from being killed by Sasuke look to show some awareness of Sakura's change in feelings- he's more open physically and emotionally, and seems to have a bit more realistic image of her- that he still loves as much as always.

Kushina's story could very well prompt Naruto to physically act on his feelings for Sakura- kiss Sakura's forehead and tell her he finds it beautiful.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 05:20 AM

Can anyone find me a link to the mini databook (after the 3rd one) that shows that Sakura no longer has the Suki arrow pointing towards Sasuke?
Thanks in advance smile.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 15 2010, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Graven is right, and in the correct version, not the messed up "summary" that first went out over the Naruto forums, that sentence is there, as well as Kishimoto's annoyance at the Sakura bashing letters he recieved after 469 came out. It was the Sakura bashing letters he recieved from certain fans trashing Sakura and saying she was using Naruto's feelings that promoted Kishimoto to say- "On the contrary I was writing her there as an honest and suprisingly determined girl." This was also the version of the interview where he expressed annoyance from the same letters of certain readers going on and on about how great Hinata was, how much more heroic she was than Sakura. Kishimoto couldn't understand that reading of the manga- Sakura is the main heroine, and as a result of recieving those negative letters from now on he would concentrate even more on Sakura and make her even more heroic. (In other words he wants those readers to come to love Sakura, he believes giving even more focus to Sakura will win those readers over. I think he's being a bit optimistic, but hey, those of us who like Sakura were very happy to hear that we would be seeing even more of Sakura.)

From Viz's previous issue box text the later transcript with the clearly marked sentences is rather obviously the correct version (Frankly, I knew that was obvious from the get go- looking at how Kishimoto has talked about Sakura in other interviews, and the fact that version was actually coherent where the "summary" was a muddled mess where you couldn't tell who said what or in what context. The "summary" effectively muddied the waters so that when a fairly accurate transcript came out- with the bits above most that were missing or hopelessly muddled in the "summary"- it threw the later accurate transcript into doubt amongst Naruto fan forums.)


so the interview in all forums is only the summary of the orginal interview ?
thanks so much no every thing is cleare to me

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 15 2010, 03:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah I remembers the messed up summary from the interview all right:

"Hinata is a better heroine than Sakura. dry.gif "

"Looks like Sakura really does love Sasuke.... rolleyes.gif"

And the list go on but thank goodness we finally know the correct version of the interview and the real translation from 474.


so who said that words ?kishi?

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 15 2010, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Sai was talking about Sakura loving Sasuke in the"past" tense and he said that Sakura loves Naruto. Kishi said it clearly that he thought he was an honest and surprisingly determined girl, the author himself said so.


thanks for cleare that was when sai talking about sakura loved sasuke was in the past tense .and if the true translation wasit . why that face naruto appear on a black ground when sai said after true translation ".. For having fallen in love with him" and also appearing of the seeing of naruto on black ground when he tell sai why you tell me all that? and why kakshi said that ""naruto's heart is troubled after hearing that"" and after that why we see naruto is confused and we see picture of him and sasuke and sakura when the was young is broken beside naruto "S face confused

i want to know when sai tell naruto that she love him ?after waht?and is naruto beleive that she moved on from sasuke and love him?

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jun 15 2010, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just want to add- Hallujah Viz! Stating with no qualifiers- Sakura is in love with Naruto- period. That the problem was, just as many of us here felt- Naruto still seeing Sakura as the Sasuke fangirl, being blind to how she had grown up and changed- even comedically hinted in chapter 248 when he sees her for the first time in two and half years and when she flirtatously asks if she "looks more womanly now" he obliviously states- "no, you look exactly the same".

Sakura, on the other hand spots how Naruto has grown and changed straight off. Naruto doesn't notice the changes in Sakura until it's right in his face- when she punches the ground during the second bell test, when she saves Kankuro, etc...

Sai's words seem to have finally literally broken the image he had of Sakura in his head of the 12 year Sasuke fangirl, for the first time in that chapter we see him picture Sakura as she is, in his head. His words and actions from the point he rescues Sakura from being killed by Sasuke look to show some awareness of Sakura's change in feelings- he's more open physically and emotionally, and seems to have a bit more realistic image of her- that he still loves as much as always.

Kushina's story could very well prompt Naruto to physically act on his feelings for Sakura- kiss Sakura's forehead and tell her he finds it beautiful.


so now sai words to naruto prove to naruto that sakura is changed from sasuke fangirl and she love him now ?

but i dont understand what you want to see after naruto rescued sakura fom being killed by the sasuke
, you want to tell us that naruto finally see her in onther way and that she has changed completely from that young sasuke fangril sakura he was know and he is still love her as much as always and his feelnigs to her never changed a bit ?
if that is true why he never speak to her when he back to konoha . ""i think he dont know what to do"" is i am worng?

i know my quesions is alot as the habit tongue.gif but i wish any one reply all a good reply and of course thanks to him smile.gif

and i have onther quesion about the true transltaion of shpuden-chan : how allll these site is mistrnslated ,how how i couldnot beleive that . there alot alot alot of site and alll write "kill the she loves " and in that magazine that she has boght is it was in the past tense, no even one site tell that. allll the sites of naruto tell that "kill the one who she love"
any one tell me how we could say all that sites were mistranslated ?and the faces of naruto tell aslo that ?
i think what one said that sai tell naruto that because when sai saw naruto's face when he tell him ""now way she is love him"naruto's face was telling him that he will not beleive any thing only he belive that sakura still love sasuke,so he tell him what he tell him

and to shpuden-chan are you sure about that true translation? it was in the past when sai talking to naruto about sasuke and her? and why tell now you dont post the true transltion in the topic of chapter 474 in (uzumaki naruto chronicle)

onther question : when sakura try to kill sasuke it was becuase what?:
1-becuase she love him and cant see him in the evil as sai said to naruto
2-to redeem her self from sasuke as shupden-chan said
3-to protect naruto becuase she didnot want to make naruto met him

onther question: after all what happend and after read all naruto:
is naruto bleive that sakura love him and gave on from sasuke and sakura has changed ?
or he think she is still love sasuke as he know he know her
and i know of course he still love her as much as alwys and no one can doubt in naruto feelings

i have a question to grave-kun :
you said before that in the mini chronicle book about sakura she havent the suki arrow towards naruto ,so kishi thinks alll what sakura done with naruto and all se tel chapter 442 and the most affective when naruto and sai and yamto were going to rescue sasuke frist and all know waht sakura done with naruto and it was cleare and even yamato and sai notice that between naruto and sakura ,how after alll this and there is onther things kishi didnot cleare that skaura love naruto in that mini chronicle book .and also you said before that kishi gives more ideas for sakura feelings to naruto in the third data book
and you aslo said that kishi said cleary in the profile of sakura in the third data book that kishi give more ideas fore her feelings for naruto and cleary said that she like alwyas have a crushs on sasuke

i know my quesions is alot as usual tongue.gif but i wish any one reply all a good reply and of course thanks to him smile.gif
sorry for allll these qutions
but there a lot of things that is Conflicting things - i couldnot found answer to them

that kishi i will kill him tongue.gif biggrin.gif tongue.gif i hate him mad.gif i wish if i could talk to him
he make alot of Conflicting things and dosenot cleare any thing sad.gif mad.gif

Edited by ahmed, 15 June 2010 - 12:23 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE (FallingHero @ Jun 15 2010, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can anyone find me a link to the mini databook (after the 3rd one) that shows that Sakura no longer has the Suki arrow pointing towards Sasuke?
Thanks in advance smile.gif


Here ya go: Manga Helpers Databooks

There's only been 3 Databooks though. tongue.gif

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 10:48 AM

The mini chornicle book is not a data book but rather a book that recaps the entire series from the beginning until the fight with Pain. It was a gift to celebrate the ten years of the manga.
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Posted 15 June 2010 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 15 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The mini chornicle book is not a data book but rather a book that recaps the entire series from the beginning until the fight with Pain. It was a gift to celebrate the ten years of the manga.


i wish when you come again smile.gif you could answer my quesions above and espicilay the quesions i worte to you about the data book and that mini chronicle book
becuase me head is is brust biggrin.gif i cant do anything
i have a lot of questions and there is a lot of Conflicting things i cant reply to myself

and in addition to my questions above i add this 3 question biggrin.gif :
1-about sakura hugging naruto in chapter 450 :
A-why do you think kishi draw like this (in my opnion: think it is a hint that sakura fall in love with naruto subconscious and start it from the beginning of part 2 and it was a hint to that who is doubt that sakura fall in love with naruto subconscious )

B-if it is not a hint that sakura love naruto it should be what?in onther way:what the other might of these hug ?in onther way: waht NH fans think about this hug tongue.gif ?

2-i think that sakura is fall in love with naruto ,before sai tell her about naruto love her,but she was subconscious (as i siad before) and after sai tell her , her feelings become very confused about sasuke and naruto and after she met sasuke(after chapter 487) she know that she really love naruto and have a little feelings for sasuke
is i am a wrong or right?

3-is there a might that naruto and sakura will not edn up together ? (i am sure 90% no smile.gif biggrin.gif)

i really wish no one angry from my alot and alot questions and from me

Edited by ahmed, 15 June 2010 - 02:52 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:16 PM

NH thoughts on the hug of NS there close. look at the next panel hinata is smiling meaning she has excepted sakura loves naruto as much as herself does and that naruto loves sakura.

Back in part one sakura showed signs of loveing him also in chapter 245 manga naruto goes four tails its all but showed said she loves him so No i think she's known she's loved him.

The only bad question is one not asked xD.

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 03:23 PM

Ignored what the other fandom says I remember it like it was yesterday. When 450 came they quickly claimed it was just a "sibling hug rolleyes.gif " or a teammate hug sweatdrop.gif. When in truth I would never hug my sister like that if I want to get punch in the face by her (little sisters can be quite scary when they get angry err.gif ).

The hug showed all kinds of emotions Sakura had for Naruto affection, concern, relief, happinness. During the Pain arc Sakura didn't looked worried that Naruto was fighting Pain (she was holding her ground acting like a true leader it wasn't the right time get worry or lose calm. Besides she knew Naruto was going to be all right she has faith in him).

Edited by Gravenimage, 15 June 2010 - 03:24 PM.

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