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#461 FireFox

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:01 PM

One can only wish... What might have been  :pinch:

But I do wonder how Sasuke would have turned out to be if Itachi had not eliminated the clan. No doubt Sasuke would be even more  of a pompous jerk than he is now, but would he be this insane?

Insane who knows maybe after some time when Itachi dies he would have bc its in their blood they just love so much like no human ever could (God Damn it I can't even describe how much I hate this kitten :facepalm:  :bash:  ) , Basicaly Sasuke was only good around Itachi but still had that Uciha kitten pride so yeah toward the others he would have remain a jerk 


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:03 PM

Insane who knows maybe after some time when Itachi dies he would have bc its in their blood they just love so much like no human ever could (God Damn it I can't even describe how much I hate this kitten :facepalm:  :bash:  ) , Basicaly Sasuke was only good around Itachi but still had that Uciha kitten pride so yeah toward the others he would have remain a jerk 

But all the Uchihas are so....sexy :umm:

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:03 PM

@ns.Believe.it:

 

That "love too much" crap had to be one of the biggest BS in this manga. It's like he gave the Uchihas an emotional disease so you don't have to blame them for anything. Bleh.

 

I really shouldn't try to understand the Uchihas lol, but if we're going to take about motivation, I still say Obito had the most pathetic excuse out of them all. At least when Sasuke's being an ass or was going through his dark, evil phase I don't have to facepalm and say "wtf's wrong with him he became this way for such stupid reasons."

 

I won't bother defending Sasuke for not killing as many people as heartlessly as Obito did. It doesn't matter if Obito's death count is higher. All of us know the only reason Sasuke didn't kill more people in the way of his goals during the Kage Summit Arc was because he didn't get the chance.


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

But all the Uchihas are so....sexy :umm:

None of them are a match to what Naruto's growing up to be. I mean look how smexy Naruto looks in the latest cover

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Poor Sasuke before could atleast beat Naruto in the looks department. But Kishi looks to be set to take away that from him as well  :lmao:


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:12 PM

I will still cald is words stupid is like Kushina and minato never die, the village never blame the Uchihas because of the Kyuubi, Jiraiya never die, because Neji never Die, because 400.000 people never die in this war, some of Konoha 11 parents never die, Sasuke clan was never murder because the village did not trust them after the kyuubi event so many things that happen where the Obito hands was part of but why is so hard to see that because obirin and narusaku stuff, but with Sasuke yes he is an ass but because off SS some try to see him as worts than Obito. Honestly how in the hell can some come to that conclution.

But like I said before, he's not talking about that Obito


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:13 PM

Almost all the Uchiha's we know has committed a heinous act. Itachi slaughtering his clan, Sasuke making Karin into a sacrificial lamb and Obito placing an explosive tag on a baby. There should be a scumbag award for these Uchiha's.

Obito takes the cake with that act honestly that's kittened up who the kitten does that on a baby , Sasuke gets the award for the most winy selfish brat who doesn't know what the heel he wants, and Itachi should get the award for making the best deed ever by erasing that piece of kitten of a lunatic clan  from the face of the earth but still loose some points for leaving the biggest menace of that clan alive  .


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:15 PM

None of them are a match to what Naruto's growing up to be. I mean look how smexy Naruto looks in the latest cover
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Poor Sasuke before could atleast beat Naruto in the looks department. But Kishi looks to be set to take away that from him as well  :lmao:

Naruto trumps Sasuke in every department :woot:

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:18 PM

But all the Uchihas are so....sexy :umm:

Oh you poor thing Ua0ykl4.gifdon't worry they become more uglier as they grow up  :yes: .


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:20 PM

Naruto trumps Sasuke in every department :woot:

In every good department, yes. Lets face it, Naruto has no chance beating Sasuke in the arrogance or insanity or betrayal departments  :hm:


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:21 PM

Oh you poor thing Ua0ykl4.gifdon't worry they become more uglier as they grow up  :yes: .

Except for some :D.....and then....there are certain characters like a certain white haired man who has red markings on his face who retain their awesomeness no matter how old they become :D

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:22 PM

In every good department, yes. Lets face it, Naruto has no chance beating Sasuke in the arrogance or insanity or betrayal departments  :hm:

He fails miserably against Sasuke in those departments :3

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:26 PM

Except for some :D.....and then....there are certain characters like a certain white haired man who has red markings on his face who retain their awesomeness no matter how old they become :D

Jiraiya or Tobirama ? They are both in good shape I give them that XD 


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:27 PM

Jiraiya or Tobirama ? They are both in good shape I give them that XD 

The former :umm: Whenever I watch his death, I get those feels :umm:

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:30 PM

Naruto trumps Sasuke in every department :woot:

 

What about Genjutsu? Sasuke doesn't have a natural predisposition for it like Itachi did, but his uses of illusions have been effective against characters like Sai, Deidara, C, and Danzo. With the possible exception of Kakashi (forgot what his stats were like), his Genjutsu stat is the highest of anyone's in Team 7 at a 4.0.

 

Otherwise, he's outclassed pretty badly by Naruto.


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:33 PM

The former :umm: Whenever I watch his death, I get those feels :umm:

Don't remind be about the J-Man's death that's my weak spot he's death still haunts me  :argh:   .R.I.P J-Man there will be no other character like you  :cry:


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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:34 PM

 
What about Genjutsu? Sasuke doesn't have a natural predisposition for it like Itachi did, but his uses of illusions have been effective against characters like Sai, Deidara, C, and Danzo. With the possible exception of Kakashi (forgot what his stats were like), his Genjutsu stat is the highest of anyone's in Team 7 at a 4.0.
 
Otherwise, he's outclassed pretty badly by Naruto.

I'd give you props for this one! But even if Sasuke can use Genjutsu, it particularly won't be useful against Naruto since there's Kurama and other tailed beasts!

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:41 PM

Don't remind be about the J-Man's death that's my weak spot he's death still haunts me  :argh:   .R.I.P J-Man there will be no other character like you  :cry:

Ero senin :umm:

How can a certain character be so legendary!!! :cry:

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:44 PM

I'd give you props for this one! But even if Sasuke can use Genjutsu, it particularly won't be useful against Naruto since there's Kurama and other tailed beasts!

 

Point taken.

 

 Bijuu... They completely negate an entire shinobi discipline. It compensates for the weaknesses of the jinchuuriki if they're not adept at illusion breaking. 



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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:45 PM

I've thought about this for a while - the whole flashback with Rin is weirdly unsatisfying, on two levels.

 

First - it has always bothered me in past chapters Rin's statements about "I'm watching you." "You can't hide anything from me." "Don't try to hide your wounds from me." In Obito's story, there is never a time where he is shown hiding things, or feeling guilty about hiding them. There is no burden that he bears like Naruto with the Kyuubi. Obito seems like a fairly well-adjusted kid with two parents and a home, and who has a crush and some jealousy issues. Nothing crazy or weird. No obvious inner turmoil. So why does Rin feel the need to make this big "I'm watching you" speech? Not that Rin wouldn't be that type of caring girl...just that it doesn't fit with Obito's storyline. He isn't the type of kid who needs some extra special help from being 'watched over.' (Or did Rin already recognize he was budding psychopath?!  :zaru: )

 

Second - the flashback with Rin in this chapter when she states "I'm watching you" begs the question from Obito: "So, um...what did you think of everything I've done...for you...?" It puts it front and center that Rin was watching him. But in the moment of some kind of guilt, where she should weigh in and not be just a figurehead that he put on a pedestal and made his muse for destruction, she just says, "Eh, it's all water under the bridge." It's friggin crazy!

 

Obito annihilates people left and right in the name of love, but when Rin finally is given a voice in the manga, Obito's whole responsibility is just swept away. How can she be truly watching him and not abhor everything that he's done, everything that he's turned into?

 

I'll tell you how: by framing it in a flashback that happens in the distant past. The Obito that comes for resolution is still an untainted child. The Rin that accepts him is still a child. Neither of them admit the very grown-up things he did. Showing Obito as a child in his final death moments shows how really warped he is. He doesn't seem himself as a grown up. Therefore how could he be responsible for these awful things? I can't think of any other character reverting back to their childhood in their final moments of lucidity. 

 

It would have made more sense to have grown-up Obito reconnect with Rin in that nether-space that Kakashi met his father (remember, at a campfire or something?). Then Obito would have been given a true absolution from Rin, the one he held above all others, rather than Naruto, a person he only saw as a weapon up until only a few short chapters ago. That would have been a much more satisfying ending.

 

Anyway, regardless of the sappy ending, Obito still equals a Hitler-esque figure for me in this story. So, wrapping it up this way, with Obito reverting to his childhood self-image and getting a pass from his 12-year-old crush, seems no less hollow than Hitler getting one to absolve all his terrible deeds.

 

/end rant 

 

THIS. I couldn't find the words to describe why the end felt kind of lacking, but you nailed it.

 

Always a pleasure reading your stuff, tricksie.  :happy:  :happy:

 

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 07:47 PM

 
Point taken.
 
 Bijuu... They completely negate an entire shinobi discipline. It compensates for the weaknesses of the jinchuuriki if they're not adept at illusion breaking. 


Pretty much! :D

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