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[FireFox]

Well that's what I said with other words.
The POAL, in other things, was to make Sakura react yes.

Yeah i know i just wanted to add my perspective on it  all in all i agree with what you said  .

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well that's what I said with other words.
The POAL, in other things, was to make Sakura react yes.

Well I don't interpret it like that because this is not the only thing Sai said.

What she asked back then was selfish yes, as her love for Sasuke has always been selfish. Her love for Sasuke is a childish love. Just like Hinata's love for Naruto. To me, the POAL is not negative for NaruSaku, because on Naruto's part, it showed Naruto's strong feelings for her, even if it's not the only time his feelings were shown. On Sakura's part, at first, it's negative, but it's also very positive just after she asked, because she immediatly realised that Naruto "always knew, always understood her".

It's negative for NS because it's kinda of negative if you take in account the selfishness and the fact she chose to go with Sasuke and leave Naruto's behind then she goes to him to bring Sasuke back telling him that it's the only thing she wants.
She basically said in front of Naruto how much she loves Sasuke, she's not guilty of showing her love for Sasuke but she's guilty of asking Naruto to bring back Sasuke when she was going to leave him behind.
 

And she's deeply touched by it. Later on in the story, Sakura tried to break it when Naruto went 4 tails, but he never heard that, he was not himself. Later on, she tried again, when she confessed to him. So it's true at the very first it's negative on her part, but it became positive rapidly. The only problem is that Naruto never saw it until her manipulative confession. Her dedication for him is always hidden from his eyes.

She's deeply touched after seeing Naruto's devotion to fullfilll that promise she tries to make it seem it's not a big deal and it's fine but she then vows that she will help Naruto.
That's the moment where she truly acknowledges Naruto.
 

Yes it's true, it's only my feeling.
I think, as I said above, that Kishimoto is hiding things on purpose. I think he wants to make things last longer. But it appear weird to us, because NaruSaku has become really obvious since that time at the bridge. Really.
I don't think he firmly believes she loves Sasuke.
We don't really know what he thinks.
If what I said is a guess, then what you said too.
What Naruto feels right now about Sakura is uncertain (I'm not talking about his feelings of love of her, but about his understanding of her feelings.) I mean, even Sakura herself doesn't really know how she feels... she's highly shaken about all this.
Again, I think it's appearing weird to us because of the timeline.
For us it's been past 10 years.
In Naruto's word, it's a lot less.

Since there's no conclusion on the romantic aspect from his side the views stay the same until there's development on which didnt happened.
 

So, you think Naruto was joking when he said Sakura was her girlfriend to Minato ? I really don't think so, but you're free to think as you want... I don't really feel like argue about that... I think Naruto would never joke about something like that to his dad. Even in the past, when he seemed to joke about it while talking to Konohamaru, we readers could see that he really meant it. He wanted her to be his girlfriend.

THe reason why i think it's a joke is because
1 -> even if i look back at the manga 100x i'm unable to find why Naruto thinks Sakura is his girlfriend, there's no conclusion.
2 -> The question was directed to Sakura, so was Naruto afraid of her response or he believes she loves Sasuke and didnt wanted to hear that she would say 'no'.
3 -> There's no romantic implications towards Naruto on this whole arc, there's people wanting to bring the "kiss" but however her thoughts had no romantic undertones.
4 -> Naruto felt jealous at Sakura talking with Sasuke after that moment, if he was serious there, there was no reason for him to felt like that before.
 

It's true they don't talk a lot of things out of Sasuke.
It's because Sasuke is omnipresent in everything.
Also, they don't have that much of calm moment to talk, and there is the fact that Kishimoto may don't want them to have a serious conversation... because if he would do that, he would be forced to reveal the truth...

They had, the author had many moments to buildup that, even his compliments towards Sakura end up being a joke or it's something he saves for himself.
He never give any hint towards Sakura that he viewed her as a woman, example like on the begining of the shippuuden just to suddenly becomes trolling on the next panel.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 25 June 2014 - 01:08 AM.

[rocci]

@darkrest
Poal is positive to NS because it's the highest romantic moment of naruto -> sakura. After that we don't see romantic moment of naruto -> sakura for entire part 2. Kishi hide naruto feeling so kishi can develope sakura -> naruto, until kage summit arc which is sakura highest romantic moment.

That's why in war arc we don't get many NS moment until girlfriend comment.

I have the feeling people don't realize there are (one side) love triangle in this manga.

[Otaru]

It's negative for NS because it's kinda of negative if you take in account the selfishness and the fact she chose to go with Sasuke and leave Naruto's behind then she goes to him to bring Sasuke back telling him that it's the only thing she wants.
She basically said in front of Naruto how much she loves Sasuke, she's not guilty of showing her love for Sasuke but she's guilty of asking Naruto to bring back Sasuke when she was going to leave him behind.

What ? I don't interpret it like that at all. I don't get why you persist on seeing this 'negative'. First, the POAL is not only about that time, so you can't base your reasoning on only that to say it's negative. IMO.
Yes, at that time Sakura was selfish and all, but I don't see how it affects NaruSaku in a negative way because a lot of things happened since that time, and Sakura realised how wrong she was quickly.
At first, she felt guilty because she was always saying that Naruto was always in her way and doesn't understand her. She realized she was wrong.
Later in the story she felt the guilt to have said in front of him how much she loved Sasuke when Sai told her Naruto really loves her.
How is this negative ?
It's negative if you look at it superficially. But if you truly understand everything, you can see the depth of it.


 

She's deeply touched after seeing Naruto's devotion to fullfilll that promise she tries to make it seem it's not a big deal and it's fine but she then vows that she will help Naruto.
That's the moment where she truly acknowledges Naruto.

No to me that's the moment when she decides to take part in it. To me she acknowledged him before he left.
 
 

THe reason why i think it's a joke is because
1 -> even if i look back at the manga 100x i'm unable to find why Naruto thinks Sakura is his girlfriend, there's no conclusion.
2 -> The question was directed to Sakura, so was Naruto afraid of her response or he believes she loves Sasuke and didnt wanted to hear that she would say 'no'.
3 -> There's no romantic implications towards Naruto on this whole arc, there's people wanting to bring the "kiss" but however her thoughts had no romantic undertones.
4 -> Naruto felt jealous at Sakura talking with Sasuke after that moment, if he was serious there, there was no reason for him to felt like that before.

You think to much. Really.
Kishi made it like for Sakura to hit Naruto and Minato get the resemblance with Kushina.
Also, Naruto looked serious, but don't forget he said " almost ".
So of course he will get jealous of Sasuke.
Also, that little jealousy thing, really IMO it was just about team7 nostalgy from Kishi.

 

They had, the author had many moments to buildup that, even his compliments towards Sakura end up being a joke or it's something he saves for himself.
He never give any hint towards Sakura that he viewed her as a woman, example like on the begining of the shippuuden just to suddenly becomes trolling on the next panel.

Yes because Kishi does not want them to be to much obvious lol.
Well it's only my opinion.
Have you ever asked yourself " why the kitten those beautiful moments are ALWAYS hidden ? "
It's on purpose obviously !

[Gojira]

Not sure about people in the east are but, I wouldn't lie about someone being my lover/girlfriend/fiancee to my parents especially if I never was going to see them again.

[Rozette]

I think his facial expression alone is enough to suggest that he wasn't joking. And anyway, after Sakura drove him into the ground wouldn't he say "Agh! I was just joking, Sakura-chan!" or something to that effect if he was joking?

 

Sakura also never denies it. 

[Iwantbuns]

After everything, Naruto still considers Sakura as his possible girlfriend...

 

That's sweet :)

[TerrorKing]

So Black Zetsu is basically the final villain? That's actually kinda cool.

[Gojira]

I think his facial expression alone is enough to suggest that he wasn't joking. And anyway, after Sakura drove him into the ground wouldn't he say "Agh! I was just joking, Sakura-chan!" or something to that effect if he was joking?

 

Sakura also never denies it. 

I would also like to point out that at that moment she doesn't tell Naruto or Minato that there's someone else she loves. That is literally the most crucial time to say something like that (ok not in the middle of a war zone but you know what I mean)

 

Also imo Naruto answered it because he thought the question was directed at both of them. Also Kishi loves keeping Sakura's love life perspective a secret for god knows how long. 

[rocci]

So Black Zetsu is basically the final villain? That's actually kinda cool.

Nope the final villain is kaguya. bz is her will, a program to revive her.

[Chatte]

Evil posted on NF and everything is weird, heh...wonder what about next chap...

[Nostradamus]

Evil posted on NF and everything is weird, heh...wonder what about next chap...

What do you mean?

[Hiraishin]

What'd she say?

[rocci]

Evil posted on NF and everything is weird, heh...wonder what about next chap...

Wtf is that? Kaguya harem >.< lol

[Toasty Warrior]

Potential 682 spoiler:

 

http://cloudnin.tumb...naruto-682-more

 

What do you guys make of it?

Edited by Toasty Warrior, 25 June 2014 - 06:06 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Potential 682 spoiler:

 

http://cloudnin.tumb...naruto-682-more

 

What do you guys make of it?

The hell is that?

[Toasty Warrior]

 

What the **** indeed, but it looks legit though.

[rocci]

Potential 682 spoiler:
 
http://cloudnin.tumb...naruto-682-more
 
What do you guys make of it?

Naruto reverse harem no jutsu.
Or
Sasuke reverse harem genjutsu
Or
Kaguya flashback of her harem.

[咲耶姫]

I think Sakura is the one who will get separated from Team 7 going by Evil's hints. Since one of the video he posted has the word "rose" in the title. Rose -> Pink -> Sakura. 

 

Spoiler

[Nostradamus]

From what I say on another website it's real. God help us all.