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#461 nia1994

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:32 PM

 

she never said that, the word "sacrifice", she just said here "help".

but the context insinuates self sacrifice kno..  



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:33 PM

Bolded: Yeah it's concerning me how unromantic she is concidering its Naruto death

 

I'd rather see Sakura like this than crying like Karin. It's not like the NH fans would let her live it down either way. They'd just call her a useless kitten like always.

 

So swayer7mages review is up dear lord he is still going on basically saying sakura should just basically be a one up for naruto and just be axed. He goes ranting on Karin with more hate, man he is not credible at all.

He just says basically just because the chapter is titled no matter the cost and how sakura said that, that she will still die in some way to revive naruto.

Just no, how can people seriously think at this point sakura is going to die for naruto, it's clear she doesn't have chiyos techique and furthermore, why not obito again he is dying he was turns by naruto, why should sakura die when obito is going out anyways and if he gave his life for naruto (if minatos jutsu required it) then why not him?

Just oh god, this chapter basically made him almost mentally unstable. He keeps pushing sakura to die, he doesn't care about sakura, he hates her, he just wants this to be an opportunity for Kishi to remove her and instead goes on saying it's still just to rile the fandoms and that the death of his father is going to influence it. In all seriousness, Kishi may have planned this stuff months ahead of his fathers death, if anything it's a misfortunate coincidence but seriously to think Kishi would only use death from the events in his own personal life, that's believing too hard. Just oh god swayer, oh god. People like him still don't consider, she is part of team 7, the heroine, the love interest, why must she die? Just why sakura? Obito losing the other rinnegan but making his final act in being used for the jutsu to revive naruto (if needed) why must it be sakura? Oh god Swayer just oh god.

 

Sawyer is just too biased. I'm subscribed and like his content but he's just too biased when it comes to Naruto. It's quite clear he just wants Sakura out of the picture, and he really does. He's made a lot of theories that serve to ultimately have Sakura removed from Naruto (the character) and it's simply because she's still a threat to Hinata. Sakura has no chakra anyway, how would she be able to perform Chiyo's jutsu in the first place? Not to mention she doesn't even know it.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:33 PM

With Madara going to Kakashi's location next chapter, there's a chance that Sakura will learn about what happened to Sasuke, and I honestly have no idea how she will react to it if that's what happens.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:37 PM

but the context insinuates self sacrifice kno..  

 

unnecessarily... Besides Sakura still hasn't any jutsu similar to that's Chiyo which was a forbidden technique that created by herself.

 

 

Naruto's safety is Minato.
 


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:40 PM

With Madara going to Kakashi's location next chapter, there's a chance that Sakura will learn about what happened to Sasuke, and I honestly have no idea how she will react to it if that's what happens.

 

Maybe Sakura does find out about Sasuke's current situation, and when Minato comes to rescue Naruto then she will leave to help Sasuke and that is where a big SS moment.

While I don't think that is a possibility, especially since Sakura doesn't have a lot of chakra, my point is that anything can still happen. Though I do believe this chapter is a major plus for us NS fans, I personally didn't think much about romantically. However I understand perfectly if anyone does, the same way I understand why people saw 615 romantic. The manga isn't over yet, and anything could still happen.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:41 PM

I suppose I'll have to do a special video on this one now.

 

I like where this is going, and have been hoping for something like this to happen for some time now. I'm still angry with the road it took to get to this point, but I will say that the climax of this arc is being handled extremely well. I'm really glad that Sakura's getting a role at this point in the story.

 

Now, for the big moment. It's CPR, yes. Nothing really that special about it on the surface, but there does appear to be a slight bit of subtext in the verbage.It is hard to say because it is a translation though. I'd love to see the RAW, and will also update on what the official translation is once it hits next Monday.

 

Reguardless, the only thing that came to mind for me when I saw it was The Matrix Reloaded. Nice moment that is open to interpretation and keeps the readers on edge for next week. I liked it! (For once, lol)



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:43 PM

I don't how all of this "what if" SS moment happening comes up when Minato is not even near Sasuke. Hell, we have someone barefooted next to him. And likely, Taka/Hebi is going towards Sasuke. People, get real, Sakura has to worry about Naruto first because he's priority.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:43 PM

guys when ive read this chapter my hands were litteraly shaking and i was breathing so heavily!no joke!that much i want narusaku to happen!but im in seven heaven right now!ive been watching narusaku amvs all day with the departure to the frontiliness ost sountrack on and ive read this chapter over and over again!..somebody's predictions were right!sakura found out that naruto suffered a kyubi extraction and she struggled her ass to bring him to life!and while sakura is giving naruto THE KISS OF LIFE,hinata is literrally kissing the floor right now with her sad faceplant!lol do u all think its too early to celebrate?but i cant help myself dammit!



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:43 PM

 

unnecessarily... Besides Sakura still hasn't any jutsu similar to that's Chiyo which was a forbidden technique that created by herself.

 

 

Naruto's safety is Minato.
 

 

and you don't think she could have developed that jutsu... she was there to when chiyo performed it. We don't know what sakura is capable of since she got the yin seal.. It's still a possibility.  



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:51 PM

I don't how all of this "what if" SS moment happening comes up when Minato is not even near Sasuke. Hell, we have someone barefooted next to him. And likely, Taka/Hebi is going towards Sasuke. People, get real, Sakura has to worry about Naruto first because he's priority.

That's not the point to me. The main point is that this whole situation is a personal/their respective team situation, rather than a Team 7. If Sasuke was picked up, this would have become a Team 7 dilemma. Now, we know it's a personal moment. Sakura didn't think about protecting Team 7, only about saving Naruto as well as his dreams. Personal moment. Karin is the person that we all know she loves Sasuke, so in a way, you can argue that because of her, she made Sakura helping Naruto in a brighter light, since it's paralleled and in a way, it most likely true.

Basically, the fact that Sakura has her hands full (literally) with Naruto means it's about personal thing, which can lead to a pairing moment itself. Again, if it was a team thing, especially since love triangle is involved, then it will just be a team thing. So rest assure, we're in for some crazy developments very soon.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 07:54 PM

I honestly understand your concerns. I say that, as it's currently the story, I highly doubt Sakura will leave the place where is Kakashi and leaving alone a dying Naruto in order to go where there's Sasuke for 2 reasons at least:
1)She's running out of chakra
2)It would be a waste of time since, for Sasuke, Kishimoto has awakened Karin's feelings who is arriving at Sasuke's place in a rush. In the meantime, a mysterious person appeared to Sasuke's place, he might be Kabuto who is a medical ninja, strangely enough.

 

What I mean is that if I was in the author's shoes and I had to know to Sakura about Sasuke's conditions by Madara's mouth, it would be completely unncessary and a total waste of time. He could have handled the story differently.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

I don't how all of this "what if" SS moment happening comes up when Minato is not even near Sasuke. Hell, we have someone barefooted next to him. And likely, Taka/Hebi is going towards Sasuke. People, get real, Sakura has to worry about Naruto first because he's priority.

 

Madara is on his way to the same location and he knows firsthand what happened to Sasuke. It's not out of the realm of possibility for Madara to gloat about stabbing him...

 

Anyway, it was just a thought that came to me that I thought I would share. I can't see Sakura leaving Naruto's side to go see Sasuke because she's literally the only thing keeping him alive. At the same time, I have to wonder what her reaction would be like if Madara told her that he stabbed Sasuke too.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:07 PM

 

Madara is on his way to the same location and he knows firsthand what happened to Sasuke. It's not out of the realm of possibility Madara to gloat about stabbing him...

 

Anyway, it was just a thought that came to me that I thought I would share. I can't see Sakura leaving Naruto's side to go see Sasuke because she's literally the only thing keeping him alive. At the same time, I have to wonder what her reaction would be like if Madara told her that he stabbed Sasuke too.

It's really not that complicated, she'd feel conflicted and be forced with a choice. Cue internal conflict, and she chooses to save Naruto first. Naruto levels up, tells Sakura to go find Sasuke, and fights Madara. At least that's my takeaway.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:09 PM

Put it this way, these last two chapters pretty much confirm that Naruto and Sasuke are getting their own dilemma with different people. No need to combine until the whole mess is over.

I wonder if there's anything Madara would expose for Obito before he dies. Something tells me Madara will reveal something since well Madara is that kind of guy.

Question: Sakura can't leave that position?

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:14 PM

It's really not that complicated, she'd feel conflicted and be forced with a choice. Cue internal conflict, and she chooses to save Naruto first. Naruto levels up, tells Sakura to go find Sasuke, and fights Madara. At least that's my takeaway.

 

That's what I would expect to see. Really, I'm just anxious for Sakura's feelings to be resolved. I want to know if she's going to realize the extent of her feelings for Naruto, or if her love for Sasuke will overshadow it.



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:16 PM

 

That's what I would expect to see. Really, I'm just anxious for Sakura's feelings to be resolved. I want to know if she's going to realize the extent of her feelings for Naruto, or if her love for Sasuke will overshadow it.

 

I rather save that right before the eventful Naruto Vs. Sasuke fight.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:24 PM

My only gripe is how people still think sakura will just be a simple 1 up for naruto, provided if minatos jutsu for transferring needs a living life. it's been said many times the reaper death seal was the technique minato used to seal kurama into naruto and we know how it needs a human life or rather the caster. Orochimaru used the technique in reverse but managed to cheat out of the death by jumping out of his body and into a zetsu body. The deal I'm still wondering is if minato uses this, then just how does the reaper seal impact him or would someone else need to be used for the jutsu to take place since minato is undead? I mean really is the requirement someone needs to be alive or does it require a soul in which case then would it just impact minato? Otherwise can we get an edo tensei op situation in which he doesn't lose his soul and vanish again?

Really it's likely to be the reaper death seal but the normal way of things I see it is minato vanishing from this, otherwise if people really expect sakura is just be a simple 1 up after all this time, it just makes things so wrong with her dying and making things just too convinent for hinata, she would have gotten love from hardly any development and simply because sakura died in his place and all that stuff would go nowhere after so much, this would then give reason to stuff like why did Kishi even bother with. The Kushina foreshadow and build on it in 631 just to remove sakura from the story, that's the big fallacy here, it's basically again fans asking Kishi to remove a character with so much investment, not to mention importance to the story being the heroine and love interest in favor of a too convinent token love fodder character just to have nh come true because it was simply so convinent, not to mention, why should naruto succeed with Sasuke but fail in sakura, I mean why is sakura supposed to go as much as they wish? Even if obito just revived her, it would be a pointless event of her dying only to be revived by another. I really just say isn't it more meaningful and shorter to just use obito if a sacrifice is needed? He's dying anyways and him giving his life for naruto to be revived (if minato needed it like that) it would be obito saving naruto and basically his redemption of changing the future. I mean sakura dying and obito reviving her would basically be like him seeing rin die again but he uses his energy to revive her, but really I don't see a need in dragging things out with a temporary sakura death. Really it would ire people if obito revived sakura after she did this but I just don't see sakura sacrificing herself for naruto as a real nessessary because if she did go for good, we know the problems it would cause and just how far it would drag hinata down. It's also a point of how does this impact minato if this is the techique he must use unless he can just easily transfer it along with minatos leaving naruto moment, something many expect to be heartfelt.

Maybe some others could elaborate like if an edo tensei person used reaper death seal would it work the same as in life or would something need to change, I'm only saying this because there could be a sudden requirement for this if minato caster it as an undead.

But as much as it goes, it just doesn't make sense for sakura to die for many story reasons and I'm sure Kishi would not want to come off as weak with his story. Even a temporary one would just be something to drag out the drama, even throwing in more parallel events. Really if sakura were to die for good, too many story issues and problems arise. If it's a temporary death, obito ends up reviving her to keep naruto in his path. Either way if it's a sacrifice, I only see obito as the candidate if it was needed, he's finished either way, he would want to make amends, I all reality who would be the better sacrifice at this point? Sakura or obito who if he had to die for naruto, there are many more reasons for it making sense on his end.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:27 PM

Put it this way, these last two chapters pretty much confirm that Naruto and Sasuke are getting their own dilemma with different people. No need to combine until the whole mess is over.

I wonder if there's anything Madara would expose for Obito before he dies. Something tells me Madara will reveal something since well Madara is that kind of guy.

Question: Sakura can't leave that position?

Bolded: Yeah, she can't. If she does, he'll die for good. Unless, if any, he'll be somewhat stable and she can close the cut that she made, and continues her medical ninjutsu on him. But, I don't think he'll be a bit better than now cause he's loosing life and the only thing keeping him grasping to life is Sakura. So, until Dark Kurama is sealed in him, she can let go.

 

That's for now.


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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:31 PM

Bolded: Yeah, she can't. If she does, he'll die for good. Unless, if any, he'll be somewhat stable and she can close the cut that she made, and continues her medical ninjutsu on him. But, I don't think he'll be a bit better than now cause he's loosing life and the only thing keeping him grasping to life is Sakura. So, until Dark Kurama is sealed in him, she can let go.
 
That's for now.

That's crazy. Wow, I know this can't be comedize but imagine Gaara going back to the Alliance to pick up something, only for Lee to break down, Hinata fades to black, since she's still lying down, and so on. Ah...sorry, just light up the mood.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 08:31 PM

Now that was a good chapter.

 

It was dramatic and tense and we got to see just how capable Sakura really is as a medic. Her reactions here were very appropriate. In the last chapter she was starting to panic worried that Naruto was going to die because she's run out of chakra. As soon as she hears that there's hope to save Naruto though she's back to business and doing everything she knows to keep him alive. While her actions were clearly not romantic, they along with her words show just how important Naruto is to her. The scene where she recalls his dream to become hokage implies that she too now has that dream. She wants to see Naruto become hokage as much as he does.

 

I realize some in our fandom wanted to see a more overtly romantic scene here, but I'm actually more appreciative of what we got. I think of Sakura saying in the past how she could only do the dumbest things for Naruto. What she's doing now is anything but dumb. She's trying to restart his heart by literally gripping it in her hand and giving him CPR. Whether it works or not I really couldn't care less. The fact is she's trying her hardest doing an advanced technique.

 

Even though this chapter gives hope for Naruto's recovery he's not out of the woods yet. There are still many scenarios where things could go terribly wrong. Primarily I think of the hint that Madara has arrived at Kakashi's location and I believe Minato is in the same vicinity. We could very realistically still get a scene where Naruto actually dies and we could see how that would impact Sakura. She's not falling apart right now because there's still a ray of hope. She was invigorated by Gaara's explanation and got to work. If it seemed like there was actually no hope for Naruto and that he was truly dead, I'm willing to bet we'd get a more passionate romantic reaction from Sakura. If that scene doesn't actually happen? Oh well. But the fact remains that it still very easily could.

 

 

As for the rest of the chapter it was okay. Karin using Kushina's chains was out of nowhere and the fact that Orochimaru just had to bite the spiral Zetsu to get him out of commission was sort of ridiculous. Was he just hanging back because he didn't want to participate until he heard about Sasuke's plight? Speaking of Sasuke I'm not at all worried about him. He'll be revived somehow and come back better and stronger than ever. As for the mysterious figure approaching him, I'm going to also go with Kabuto. It does make a certain amount of sense. That finally brings me to Madara. Really I don't care what kind of powers he gets. I'm more interested in what his true motivation is. Here's to hoping it's not just your generic world domination cliche.

 

Overall great chapter and I eagerly anticipate the next one.






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