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[Hyuga Sage]

omg I want Obito DEAD   

[Mistraal]

 
That depends on who Kishi wishes to assume the forefront of the attack. The most sound decision would be for Killer Bee to assume his bijuu form and launch an attack of his own since he does happen to wield the single most destructive technique of anyone in his group. Is that realistic though? No, but to argue that either of them will somehow take the leadership position of these men is inconclusive speculation. 
 
 
In all likelihood it isn't. Her distinguishable moment seems to have become interlaced with the observers. A moment of opportunity will be seized not just by Sakura but by everyone who was instructed to maintain a constant focus on what is playing out in front of them. Kishi has been building up to that moment for some time now. The moment when they will pool their strengths together collectively in order to launch a potent attack against the enemy. 
 
 
Remote healing has not been used through the usage of any other handseal besides Ram and that appears to be the gesture she has her fingers adjusted to. But who can definitively argue that she will attack using her own strength?
 
The Kages were finally able to earn Madara's recognition and admittance that they are worthy of the  title through their ability to improvise and create a noteworthy battle maneuver which would have incapacitated him were it not for Perfect Susanoo. At the forefront of this was Onoki with Tsunade enhancing his Jinton to much greater proportions. Perhaps Sakura will do the same by increasing the strength of Bee's Bijudama. It comfortably ties into her status as Sannin apprentice and it could be used as a metaphor that Sakura has surpassed Tsunade's ability to increase the size and force of an ally's attack. By extension, it reinforces her role as someone with incredible supplementary capacities.
 
Perhaps Sakura strengthening Darui's attack many chapters back was a foreshadowing of her eventual role alongside Killer Bee, another Kumogakure shinobi and jinchuuriki. 
 
 
It's not intrinsically plausible unless Sakura took it upon herself to learn and/or develop other jutsu separate from her studies under Tsunade's tutelage. Still, this is Kishi's story, anything could be made or done, anything is conceivable. We'll see what happens in the upcoming chapters. Although caution and skepticism have always been a virtue. Considering his track record, it's not very likely IMO
 

Doubtful, her reservoir of chakra was returned to manageable levels and no comment was ever made that she still needed time to recover. That's the beauty of this universe's medical capabilities and feats. You can continue engaging in combat for hours at a time even after having just recovered from a mortal injury. Kakashi and Naruto are shining examples of that.
 

If she and the Kages were to fight anyone, it would be Madara. Closer personal associations with his character and the vow they made that they would be the ones to defeat him have a stronger binding than their mutual disagreement with Tobi's intentions for the world.
 

Well the logic you used is being put into question with all of the medical accomplishments that have come before Tsunade's body being reattached together. If these were dictated solely by cold, unabated logic then everyone would have already collapsed from hours worth of constant fighting. Even if they were taking soldier pills their minds would be still weary and their fighting abilities would become sluggish.

Ironically, Raikage commented on Tsunade's fighting ability waning as they were contending with the Susanoo army. Even after she had released her seal and would therefore have all the chakra she would ever need for her attacks and healing ninjutsu at her disposal.
 

Naruto and Sasuke are the primary focus because they're the only ones with the means to fend off Tobi's onslaught; and they are the two central protagonists of the story. Nothing contradicts that a dualistic rivalry of ideology and ability has been occurring since the beginning of the manga. If anyone else were to try and intervene besides Hashirama they would be killed.

Sakura chose her role for herself. She finds it more important that the Alliance shinobi are able to survive rather than serving as a third combatant. Honestly, I don't begrudge for wanting to do that. Despite Tsunade's explanation that she needn't refrain from fighting as well, Sakura understands that her abilities would be put to the greatest use if she can restore the injuries of as many shinobi as possible. That takes a greater amount of introspection and knowledge about one's personal character than almost anything else IMO.
 

That's just how Kishi operates the course of his manga. Any character is able to make a worthwhile speech that details how they will perform this or that action without doubt and with the perseverance that they succeed. These moments and their duration are varied however. They can be hugely impactful and lengthy, or fleeting and without too much consequence.

Take for example the first battle with Zabuza. Naruto remembered the assurances he made to the others and himself that he would not cower in the midst of his enemy. He resolved himself to fight and put his differences with Sasuke aside to work together in freeing Kakashi from the water prison.

Despite the significance in that moment and how much growth it suggested that Naruto's character had made, it was only a chapter's worth in length. Sakura's moment was actually longer than that by a margin. But the point is, the worth of a person's contribution isn't exclusive to how long it lasts. It's how you make it worthwhile that is most important.
 

Personal turmoil hasn't been implied. Sakura understands what her role is and she seems to have resigned herself to whatever fate Kishi has in store for her. I needn't go into much depth about the discrepancies between what Sakura and Tsunade can do in combat. That topic has been discussed so many times now that I could practically blind myself and throw a dart randomly at any post that I want to use that addresses how those two stack up against each other.
 

Any efforts to protect the Kages and keep them from battling directly on the frontlines became null and void when they chose to fight against one of history's most formidable and dangerous figures by themselves without any reinforcements.

Nothing implies that Tsunade's condition hasn't already stabilised when her chakra supply was replenished. As far as we know, the Kages are all in fighting condition and prepared to resume the battle once they reach the location where it's taking place.
 

See my point above concerning how a character's moment doesn't need to be long for it to have meaning.

From what can be inferred, the time for rookies and Sakura to engage the enemy so they can display how they have matured individually has already passed it seems. The battle is reaching its climax with the Kages converging to try and assist in defeating Tobi and Madara.

Both the rookies, Sakura, Killer Bee, Mifune, and everyone else is at the ready for to make their attack against Akatsuki with their collective strength. That has been the main emphasis of this entire arc. Not forgetting your comrades, working beside them as a team to bring about change both within and outside of battle.

This final struggle is the culmination of all these different people coming together, their ideals, their convictions, everything about them is dependent on how they act to bring an end to this war. In that respect, none of them are any different from each other. When they strike, they will all go at it as a team.

It's a common technique seen in stories like shonen that Kishi has been making great use of.

 

 

I simply cannot contend with the fact that you can rip a person in two and have them back out there fighting not 20 minutes later because they tookma bite of yummy Karin goodness. That is serious asspull territory and makes Karin arguably the most efficient medical nin in the world. Kakashi was under Tsunade's personal medical care and was still out of commission for days if not weeks even though he sustained lesser injuries. If Tsunade is back out there fighting 20 minutes later after having been ripped in two because of Karin I'm calling asspull. I'm sorry, that's just pure BS.

That aside, we'll just have to agree to disagree. You seem to feel like Sakura has done enough to warrant the big mouth Kishi gave her and I really don't feel she has. If she remains on the sidelines now it would be embarrassing. She stood up and popped off at the mouth about how she's going to fight along her Team and how she's going to compete with them. And now she's sitting. You say her moment "doesn't have to be long." I don't even feel it was achieved. If Kishi left her on the sidelines now, in my mind, it would confirm her as an afterthought on his conclusion list for the series.

 

Edited by Mistraal, 06 August 2013 - 07:41 PM.

[Slextrem]

omg I want Obito DEAD   

 

I just want him to stop throwing his temper tantrum over Rin.

 

Also, I think it's so stupid how he was able to master the Jyuubi's out of control chakra in one chapter. Hax level: Aizen.

[Hyuga Sage]

 

I just want him to stop throwing his temper tantrum over Rin.

 

Also, I think it's so stupid how he was able to master the Jyuubi's out of control chakra in one chapter. Hax level: Aizen.

 

I've honestly gotten kinda upset with his Rin fetish... Even though it was kinda cute at first

[Psychox]

 

I've honestly gotten kinda upset with his Rin fetish... Even though it was kinda cute at first

 

Its the only thing keeping him sane . I think . Besides he has nobody , he can keep her in his memory if nothing ..

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't know, to be fair, yes fair, he is that close to see her again, so why not? No one think it's bad for Naruto to think Sakura only when she was about to be killed by Gaara? Remember, you become stronger when you fight for the one you love. Rin is dead but he's that close to see her again, even if it's illusion. That's his driving force. I believe someone in NF explained it much well than me. Anyway, it's my opinion, that's all.

[Atheck]

I simply cannot contend with the fact that you can rip a person in two and have them back out there fighting not 20 minutes later because they tookma bite of yummy Karin goodness.

Why not? Characters in similarly harsh conditions have been able to rebound and enter into combat. This is a world where having your appendages removed is only a minor inconvenience to one's capacity to think and act. What Tsunade endured is par for the course in this manga.

I would argue that others have experienced worst. Dosu is certainly a case in point. From the top of his skull down to his limbs were severed in two, much like Tsunade was in #635. Granted, he didn't survive like her, but it's just an example proving that these levels of injury have been incurred by more than just one person.
 

That is serious asspull territory and makes Karin arguably the most efficient medical nin in the world.

You're forgetting that Katsuyu also played a role in returning Tsunade to stable condition. She/It is the attributable cause for the lower portion of her body being reattached. All Karin did was resupply Tsunade with enough chakra to utilise in her seal.

Frankly, is this any more of an "asspull" than Kakashi's sudden stamina augmentations in this arc or Sasuke's "Great Snake Escape" feat at the end of his battle with Deidara? Heck, Tsunade's spinal cord should have been severed when Susanoo's sword was run through her midsection. But did that prevent her from recovering and continuing to fight? No.

This is a manga where complex eye transplantation procedures are readily performable by prepubescent children. Do you really believe that Tsunade recovering so quickly after being cut in two is all that incredible?
 

Kakashi was under Tsunade's personal medical care and was still out of commission for days if not weeks even though he sustained lesser injuries.

That's because his excessive chakra depletion put him into a comal like state. Tsunade experienced the same situation at the conclusion of the Invasion of Pain arc. Her current situation is different. Although her reservoir had been almost completely expended she still had the chakra Dan provided her with to use. The fact that her seal was still visible on her forehead is an attestation to her resilience.
 

If Tsunade is back out there fighting 20 minutes later after having been ripped in two because of Karin I'm calling asspull. I'm sorry, that's just pure BS.

Do you know what's BS to me? The fact that all of these characters have been fighting nonstop for hours, if not days. What's absurd to me is that characters like Jiraiya and Deidara haven't gone into shock when they should be bleeding profusely after having their limbs removed. Every single one of these characters would have already collapsed. Or at the very least their coordination skills and ability to rationalise would be severely hindered by the lack of rest. Apparently a simple resupplying of one's chakra supply is enough to allow them to continue fighting for days at a time.

Compared to the absurd stunts that Kishi has contrived in the past, Tsunade being battle ready is nothing, honestly.
 

That aside, we'll just have to agree to disagree. You seem to feel like Sakura has done enough to warrant the big mouth Kishi gave her and I really don't feel she has.

If it were my decision, she would be fighting alongside them as an equal with her own unique abilities. She would have Slug Sage Mode, Byakugou, elemental ninjutsu, shunshin, potent genjutsu techniques on par with the Uchiha's, basic running speed that is the equal of Raikage's mobility, and she would know how to open the Inner Gates with little strain on her body due to the restorative effects of her healing ninjutsu.

I'm speaking as someone who's taking into consideration the qualities and style of progression that Kishi has chosen for his manga. Would I personally want her to do more? Of course, I ponder on what more could be done to have her distinguish herself from the Alliance every day to the point of obsession. Still, with how Kishi has handled much of his cast of characters, especially women, I can't help but maintain a "cynical" perspective.
 

If she remains on the sidelines now it would be embarrassing.

It has to be embarrassing for Killer Bee as well. A man who was touted as the equal of Naruto when they battled Tobi at the beginning of this hell with the so-called "anti-bijuu specialist's" weapon at his disposal is obscurely hidden in the background with no reference to his character for three chapters.

Pragmatically, Bee should be able to hold his own beside Naruto and Sasuke. For whatever reason Kishi doesn't believe that to be true or he's reserving this man for another occasion.
 

She stood up and popped off at the mouth about how she's going to fight along her Team and how she's going to compete with them.

She also stated that she would be available to restore the injuries of anyone afflicted not too soon afterwards. Sakura's role has been shifting from a frontline combatant to a medical operative or observer throughout the entire manga. As of now her next moment to display what she can do in battle will probably come simultaneously beside the all-out assault when a moment of weakness is discovered by everyone.
 

And now she's sitting. You say her moment "doesn't have to be long." I don't even feel it was achieved.

Well yes, I did say that these moments can either be fleeting or extensive. It isn't too relevant what either of us believe. This is Kishi's manga and he decides what's appropriate. I agree that her feat could have been handled more efficiently with greater exposition, but what will voicing this sentiment achieve?

If it's any clarification, the cherry blossom flower is associated with ephemerality in Japan. A fleeting existence with only temporary life before it ceases. When you look at it from a cultural and mythological perspective, Sakura's momentary effort of glory and power can be rationalised to some extent.
 

If Kishi left her on the sidelines now, in my mind, it would confirm her as an afterthought on his conclusion list for the series.

Not necessarily. Sasuke has been continually relegated to obscurity for hundreds of chapters at a time. Yet after that period he has always managed a return to the spotlight. Many fans demanded to know where he was following his peculiar absence after receiving Itachi's eyes. Now look at him. He's been an integral part of the Alliance's survival for some time now. He was the catalyst to the Hokage's revival and inadvertently the safeguard against the Jubi's overwhelming wrath. Now he's a direct participant in the fighting.

I can't predict what Sakura's role will be precisely, but there is still more for her. The fact that Kishi has dedicated panels to her specifically receiving updates on the battle raging proves this.

Edited by Atheck, 06 August 2013 - 09:35 PM.

[Rozette]

 

 

I simply cannot contend with the fact that you can rip a person in two and have them back out there fighting not 20 minutes later because they tookma bite of yummy Karin goodness. That is serious asspull territory and makes Karin arguably the most efficient medical nin in the world. Kakashi was under Tsunade's personal medical care and was still out of commission for days if not weeks even though he sustained lesser injuries. If Tsunade is back out there fighting 20 minutes later after having been ripped in two because of Karin I'm calling asspull. I'm sorry, that's just pure BS.

That aside, we'll just have to agree to disagree. You seem to feel like Sakura has done enough to warrant the big mouth Kishi gave her and I really don't feel she has. If she remains on the sidelines now it would be embarrassing. She stood up and popped off at the mouth about how she's going to fight along her Team and how she's going to compete with them. And now she's sitting. You say her moment "doesn't have to be long." I don't even feel it was achieved. If Kishi left her on the sidelines now, in my mind, it would confirm her as an afterthought on his conclusion list for the series.

 

 

Well, I believe that Karin mainly helped with replenishing her chakra and "minor" injuries, so to speak. Suigetsu did most of the work regarding her being split in half. While both Karin and Suigetsu were working on her, Katsuyu was also helping to heal and reconnect her body as well, even before they arrived. It was the three of them working together that saved/healed her, not just Karin alone.

[megi]

Haha, I'm going to defend Obito's thoughts of Rin. When Obito "died", his last (heart breaking  ) thought was that he was never able to confess to Rin that he loved her. When he finally gained the power to come back to protect her, she was dead. That would twist anybody. I guess I've always viewed the Obito/Rin stuff to be really tragic, so I'm sympathetic to that part. She is his most important person in the world. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Haha, I'm going to defend Obito's thoughts of Rin. When Obito "died", his last (heart breaking  ) thought was that he was never able to confess to Rin that he loved her. When he finally gained the power to come back to protect her, she was dead. That would twist anybody. I guess I've always viewed the Obito/Rin stuff to be really tragic, so I'm sympathetic to that part. She is his most important person in the world. 

Agreed.

One of my fanfic idea is to have Naruto questioned if it's ok to hold the confession until it's over. What if you die before you get to confess? Is it best to confess and die or never confess and die? I really hope the talk with the whole "both of us will die" will be dramatic.

[sushi.]

Obito's feelings for Rin weren't that unhealthy when he was a kid(ecxept that he had dusins of images of her in his room wtf? XD), but now it's just nuts. I want him to realize that Rin died of her own free will, and I want him to let her go. He's stuck in the past.

 

There is one thing I have to defend though and that is when people call him a pedobear. Because his thoughts were never sexual.

I just want him to stop throwing his temper tantrum over Rin.

 

Also, I think it's so stupid how he was able to master the Jyuubi's out of control chakra in one chapter. Hax level: Aizen.

To be fair, it looks like the Juubi is controlling him.

 

What puzzles me is that Obito can handle all of this. And yes, I know he has Senju DNA. It's just too easy, how apparently if you plant the necessary DNA ingredients your body can hold the Juubi.

I've honestly gotten kinda upset with his Rin fetish... Even though it was kinda cute at first

Not to be a nitpicker, but; Rin isn't an object, although she is dead.

Edited by sushi., 07 August 2013 - 12:11 AM.

[T XD]

Yeah, I'm really not too sure about this. The kages are still beat to kitten and Tsunade was literally in pieces. I don't think you just bounce back from that at 100%. I see them taking a more "General of the Army" position.

She was completely healed when she was finished being healed. Three characters took the part on them to heal her which are Karin, Suigetsu and Katsuyu. All the other Kages were healed also and they were shown getting ready to get to the battlefield to resist to the standoff Madara. What ? They're going back to watch some wrestle ?!

 

I know they were just being knocked and later being healed from injuries, but this is not real life with a doctor telling you should stay in bed and rest. This is manga where fighters go back up and fight no matter what their condition is.

Edited by T XD, 06 August 2013 - 10:09 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wish i could understand why Killer Bee is not fighting alongside Naruto does he has been nerfed?

Kishi plz tell me wish patch you nerfed Killer Bee

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 06 August 2013 - 09:44 PM.

[Psychox]

I wish i could understand why Killer Bee is not fighting alongside Naruto does he has been nerfed?

Kishi plz tell me wish patch you nerfed Killer Bee

 

He is probably somewhere collecting/ kneading chakra .

[ramenanmitsu]

 

How so? The Team 7 and neo-Sannin dynamics of her character role have served their purpose. The battle has taken a turn for the worst with only the sturdiest and most powerful having any conceivable hope of being able to match these godlike beings in their prime. Moreover, Kishi has been consistent with distancing those with less than adequate fighting arsenals and having them maintain constant observation of events progressing before them. He practically confirmed that they're all waiting for a moment to pounce when Akatsuki is vulnerable last chapter, Sakura included. 

Thank you very much for making it short. I really appreciate it 

 

I'm not disagreeing to the idea that the alliance are waiting to pounce. But I do disagree to the idea that Tsunade has a bigger reason to fight and therefore will do so, while Sakura is going to heal the alliance. Sakura is not part of the alliance because she has less the adequate skills, that will be contradictory to what Kishi was trying to show us in chapter 632. It's because she is the only medic that can heal the alliance at the front lines. Shizune can heal people too, but she doesn't have the remote mass healing ability Sakura has. 

1. Sakura is in a better condition than Tsunade to fight.

She hasn't released her seal yet either. 

 

2. Sakura still needs to surpass her master. 

I think we both agreed in the character power rank thread that she didn't surpass her master yet. She doesn't have her master's regenerative abilities, nor the fighting skills. Having a "greater" strength doesn't count as it was only the advantage of her age.

 

3. We haven't seen everything Sakura has.

Whereas Tsunade has shown everything and still she couldn't beat the Madara clone. If she had a strong offensive attack that would damage the enemy, she would have used it with the fight against Madara. At this point, there is nothing new she can offer in the fighting area, which is contrary to Sakura who hasn't released her seal yet. But Tsunade will still be very useful in healing people. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 07 August 2013 - 12:03 AM.

[Hyuga Sage]

I wish i could understand why Killer Bee is not fighting alongside Naruto does he has been nerfed?

Kishi plz tell me wish patch you nerfed Killer Bee

He took a Juubidama to the face twice; It's normal for him to be out of the fight for some time now

[sushi.]

^Then why isn't Sakura-chan healing him?

 

It's that simple.

Edited by sushi., 07 August 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[Atheck]

Thank you very much for making it short. I really appreciate it

I had no intention of condensing anything. Your responce was only a few sentences in length which is the reason for my post being shortened as well.
 

I'm not disagreeing to the idea that the alliance are waiting to pounce. But I do disagree to the idea that Tsunade has a bigger reason to fight and therefore will do so, while Sakura is going to heal the alliance.

Several times now I have restated the emotional and relational implications that Tsunade's participation would hold. I don't believe that it needs to be argued yet again. I believe continuing to do so would classify as a proof by assertion fallacy.

Tsunade and the Kages are the leaders of the Alliance and their respective villages. They each hold the capabilities to manage themselves in combat unlike the common soldier. Raikage's mobility is on par with Naruto's and his strength would enable him to generate some effective impact against either Madara or Tobi (with the assistance of the other Kages provided).

The Hokage has her Byakugou jutsu to withstand any damage that may be inflicted, but I can't make an argument for how she would be able to contend with Perfect Susanoo.

Mei... Doesn't have the arsenal to fend off Susanoo. She was the first of the Kages to relent and collapse the moment she was forced to do battle on her own. Madara has already proven that he is almost completely invulnerable to Yoton. Her Suiton is the equal to his Katon but how often does he utilise nature transformation now? Futton's effectiveness is questionable at best since the vapour would dissipate in an outside environment. Mei would likely refrain from creating it regardless as it would be detrimental to her teammates as well.

It goes without saying that Gaara and Onoki can manage themselves. It's a concerted effort amongst the Kages and unlike the previous battle they would have the knowledge of what Madara's repertoire consists of. Not only that, they should have Hashirama to assist them. Victory this time is not unfeasible for them. The imagery and symbolism will be tarnished somewhat but what previously established concept has Kishi not retracted on by this time?
 

Sakura is not part of the alliance because she has less the adequate skills, that will be contradictory to what Kishi was trying to show us in chapter 632.

What explanation is there for this refrainment then? We have all seen what Tobi is capable of. Her skills would be insufficient to create any meaningful difference by herself against him. There are, in fact, a select few characters from the group who would arguably provide a greater contribution than her (Killer Bee and arguably Mifune with his Iado kenjutsu).

Having a more geographically devastating punch doesn't make you the equal of demigods. Not without the statistical enhancements to ensure that you will indeed land your attack and/or ninjutsu that can provide you with an approach to do battle at long range should hand-to-hand combat prove unfeasible.

Sakura is more powerful than much the Alliance group, but that isn't significant practically or from a storytelling perspective. If it were then Killer Bee would have already been sent out to assist. For reasons that are his own, Kishi is choosing to relegate these shinobi so they can monitor Naruto and Sasuke's progress and then follow up with their own offensive.
 

It's because she is the only medic that can heal the alliance at the front lines. Shizune can heal people too, but she doesn't have the remote mass healing ability Sakura has.

You're forgetting that the entire medical division had converged on Naruto's position back during chapter #611, not just Shizune. There should be dozens of medical personnel available to assist. And if you really think about it, Samehada could theoretically heal them as well, provided it has the chakra reservoir to do so.

So no, Sakura is not the only medical operative with the ability to assist these shinobi. Katsuyu does provide greater accessibility to them should they require restorative ninjutsu though.
 

1. Sakura is in a better condition than Tsunade to fight.
She hasn't released her seal yet either.

Tsunade just received a chakra replenishment from an Uzumaki and her seal had already materialised prior to her revivalisation. On the other hand, Sakura has expended chakra continually healing Naruto's injuries, implementing her chakra enhanced strength for a single attack, summoning Katsuyu, and healing the Alliance shinobi.

Regardless of her precision, chakra is expended when performing a jutsu. The exact quantity is unknown, but suggesting that Sakura is in "better condition" is nothing but fanciful speculation.
 

2. Sakura still needs to surpass her master. 
I think we both agreed in the character power rank thread that she didn't surpass her master yet. She doesn't have her master's regenerative abilities, nor the fighting skills. Having a "greater" strength doesn't count as it was only the advantage of her age.

This is one area that you and I agree on it seems. It will require more than regeneration to prove her superiority IMO. The one expedient that would truly convince everyone that Sakura has surpassed Tsunade would be if she entered into Sage Mode. But what probability does that have? I provided my thoughts on the matter some time back about the reasoning for Hashirama acting in the role of a successful senjutsu user for a particular school of Sage Mode.
 

3. We haven't seen everything Sakura has.

No allusions have been made to suggest that she has any other unspecified techniques or abilities that we haven't already seen. Except perhaps for Byakugou jutsu, but can that truly be argued as unexpected or new? We're already aware of its applications. Sakura simply becomes more difficult to kill. But an elemental fighting style that was likened to Onoki's disintegrative Jinton is like acid to regenerative experts.
 

Whereas Tsunade has shown everything and still she couldn't beat the Madara clone. At this point, there is nothing new she can offer in the fighting area, which is contrary to Sakura who hasn't released her seal yet. But Tsunade will still be very useful in healing people.

How did you arrive to this conclusion? We're aware that Tsunade has other abilities beside restoration jutsu, summoning and enhanced strength. It would be hypocritical to decry this possibility for Sakura though. But the basis of my argument is centred around the fact that the original Sannin all possessed larger arsenals of nin, gen, and taijutsu.

It wouldn't be prudent to decree that Sakura has no other jutsu that we're unaware of. However, given the track record of other Sannin's technique quantity when compared to their apprentices, I maintain the belief that Tsunade has additional jutsu of her own which have not been featured in the manga.

You're forgetting that Tsunade was in the process of using some unspecified jutsu or ability just moments before Madara was about to strike with his Perfect Susanoo. What could this have been? A simple hand gesture to better accumulate chakra for enhancing her strength even further? Sage Mode? Or was it something else?
 

If she had a strong offensive attack that would damage the enemy, she would have used it with the fight against Madara.

Taking into consideration the fact that she spent a large duration of the battle healing and was forced to maintain an active defence throughout the rest, would it be logical for her to attempt any time consuming jutsu? Tsunade didn't use Ranshinsho neither was Katsuyu summoned on-screen. It's entirely possible that she was restricted to her chakra enhanced taijutsu as it doesn't necessitate any costly handseal gestures.

[Mistraal]

Regardless of her precision, chakra is expended when performing a jutsu. The exact quantity is unknown, but suggesting that Sakura is in "better condition" is nothing but fanciful speculation.
 

 

I actually facepalmed at this. Really. I had no idea that recently severed Tsunade > Sakura. It's a very simple line of logic. The defense for this that's being provided is "Oh everyone is getting stamina asspulls so Tsunade will get one too." Just...makes me want to pull my hair out because it literally makes no sense and counts on Kishi being a total cheeseball. To be honest, logically, I'd round up he K11 for a fight right now before grabbing Tsunade. But hey, maybe you're right and she'll be 100% ready to go.   As utterly silly as that would be.

Even then, If she does go into combat I'd rather see Her +Hashi vs. Madara and Team 7 vs. Obito.

[Atheck]

I actually facepalmed at this. Really. I had no idea that recently severed Tsunade > Sakura.

I don't recall it ever being stated that an individual's chakra pool is reduced when they're bodies are mutilated. You're insisting upon limitations that have never been proposed before to justify your argument. But even if your statement was accurate, what you conveniently forgot to reference was that her reservoir was supplied after the lower portion of her body was reattached.
 

It's a very simple line of logic.

A line of logic artificially created to support a notion that's unsupportable.
 

The defense for this that's being provided is "Oh everyone is getting stamina asspulls so Tsunade will get one too." Just...makes me want to pull my hair out because it literally makes no sense and counts on Kishi being a total cheeseball.

To put it bluntly, Tsunade was pumped with chakra by an individual with Uzumaki heritage, a clan that is renowned for their incredible longevity and massive reserves of stamina. There have been feats in the manga to support that their physicality and chakra is so quantitatively great that few outclass them in those statistical areas.

Does it seem unrealistic that she would recover so quickly? Yes, by real-world standards it's absurd. By the Naruto world's standards however? It's not that ridiculous. It's a ficional world centred around ninja capable of disgorging magical flames from their throats and surviving being thrown into solid rock with little to no injuries.

Suspension of disbelief is a necessity for most manga and comics.
 

To be honest, logically, I'd round up he K11 for a fight right now before grabbing Tsunade. But hey, maybe you're right and she'll be 100% ready to go.   As utterly silly as that would be.

Silly to you, not that far-fetched to anyone who understand that fatal injuries are not so detrimental to characters in this manga. Most of the K11 are practically grunts with names by this point. You would be better off sending in a team consisting of Onoki's relatives, Darui, Mifune and Guy.
 

Even then, If she does go into combat I'd rather see Her +Hashi vs. Madara and Team 7 vs. Obito.

All of the Kages made a vow to defeat Madara. Tsunade's role may be somehow bigger as she is the grandchild of Madara's closest enemy and associate. As for Team 7, if they're going to participate then the other members should be offered a position as well. Team 7 doesn't encompass just Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura you know.