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#461 AzureWaters

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (swagosaurus @ Mar 27 2013, 10:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Even if the cover is focused on them, it's not like it directly represents the most important aspect of the volume, which was Neji's death. Probably the last bit of Hinata showcasing/development/fanservice we'll see forever a while, unless Kishi really did lie about Sakura being the heroine.


As Naruto and Hinata have a bigger focus here than even Neji, I'd say that its one of the more important scenes. There's no reason for Kishi to show the cover like that otherwise. Here, the handholding is in fact given bigger emphasis than Neji, and in essence his death.



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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:15 PM

QUOTE (AzureWaters @ Mar 27 2013, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As Naruto and Hinata have a bigger focus here than even Neji, I'd say that its one of the more important scenes. There's no reason for Kishi to show the cover like that otherwise. Here, the handholding is in fact given bigger emphasis than Neji, and in essence his death.


EXACTLY. The only thing I'll complain about here is that it's more important than Neji's death. The guy died for her, and she's thinking of Naruto's hand a second later. I mean come on, show some respect. I really don't want this to turn into DBZ, but Neji needs to come back to life so he can have a bigger impact than THAT (Especially on Hinata). Or at least a chapter devoted to this character. That is all I ask for.

Edited by The Tax-Man, 27 March 2013 - 09:16 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:20 PM

I lost all remaining respect for Hinata when she started to think of Naruto's big warm hand after her cousin just died for her. He's laying there DEAD. It shows him, just .. on the ground there behind him while she's holding Naruto's hand.

It's just...

No.

So I don't think that this cover symbolizes NH.

It symbolized Neji / his memory. Maybe beause clearly Hinata didn't do that.


 
 
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Fenris @ Mar 27 2013, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I lost all remaining respect for Hinata when she started to think of Naruto's big warm hand after her cousin just died for her. He's laying there DEAD. It shows him, just .. on the ground there behind him while she's holding Naruto's hand.

It's just...

No.

So I don't think that this cover symbolizes NH.

It symbolized Neji / his memory. Maybe beause clearly Hinata didn't do that.
Lets be honest, Hinata finds solace in being near the one she loves to the point she's a part of his life and vice versa. Neji blessed them so he might be giving the reigns to Naruto to protect Hinata.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Yoshimario @ Mar 27 2013, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets be honest, Hinata finds solace in being near the one she loves to the point she's a part of his life and vice versa. Neji blessed them so he might be giving the reigns to Naruto to protect Hinata.


First of all, of course he was. rolleyes.gif

That entire scene, outside of Hinata's feelings (of course), was about Neji sacrificing for everyone and everyone else putting their faith in Naruto plus getting power from a close friend's death. For Hinata, it somehow became about how big and strong and protective Naruto is and *SQUEALSQUEALSQUEEEE*. That is the problem. She forgot about Neji's sacrifice. Her love is borderline obsessive and clearly becoming destructive within. It sure helps her, but like people have said before, she doesn't truly know Naruto. If you have any idea what love is, you can't call it love if you don't really know the person you have it for.




^^ what? What happened between them? Did you get all that about support over love? Obviously not. This being Shounen doesn't justify kitten. Romance is obviously a part of this. Come on, how fair would it be if Naruto DIDN'T hold her hand after that? You can't just make statements like that and ignore all that has happened before. No, nothing happened to show the 'close' relationship between Hinata and Naruto ever before but it did for Sakura and Naruto. It's been milked to death and I'm getting sick of rehashing old points. Just read the debate thread.

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LOL did he just delete the post? Nice.
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It was deleted.

Edited by The Tax-Man, 27 March 2013 - 09:38 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Yoshimario @ Mar 27 2013, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets be honest, Hinata finds solace in being near the one she loves to the point she's a part of his life and vice versa. Neji blessed them so he might be giving the reigns to Naruto to protect Hinata.

Only problem is that the story is about naruto not hinata so its not really important what hinata feels or wants.

Edit:
There was just a NH focused post before mine. Where did it go??

Edited by PhenixElite, 27 March 2013 - 09:37 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:36 PM

For something like hand holding to be so important, why block most of it out with the text, though? dry.gif

Edited by Qia, 27 March 2013 - 09:54 PM.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:43 PM

I believe that Darkrest was right... This topic attract too much the fans of opposite fandoms...

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:45 PM

QUOTE (The Tax-Man @ Mar 27 2013, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
First of all, of course he was. rolleyes.gif

That entire scene, outside of Hinata's feelings (of course), was about Neji sacrificing for everyone and everyone else putting their faith in Naruto plus getting power from a close friend's death. For Hinata, it somehow became about how big and strong and protective Naruto is and *SQUEALSQUEALSQUEEEE*. That is the problem. She forgot about Neji's sacrifice. Her love is borderline obsessive and clearly becoming destructive within. It sure helps her, but like people have said before, she doesn't truly know Naruto. If you have any idea what love is, you can't call it love if you don't really know the person you have it for.




^^ what? What happened between them? Did you get all that about support over love? Obviously not. This being Shounen doesn't justify kitten. Romance is obviously a part of this. Come on, how fair would it be if Naruto DIDN'T hold her hand after that? You can't just make statements like that and ignore all that has happened before. No, nothing happened to show the 'close' relationship between Hinata and Naruto ever before but it did for Sakura and Naruto. It's been milked to death and I'm getting sick of rehashing old points. Just read the debate thread.

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LOL did he just delete the post? Nice.
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It was deleted.

So at least you were able to respond to his post, bow i dont have to biggrin.gif

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:49 PM

I know some people think nh is canon but in my opinion the impression I get is that the romance drama is far from over, nothing is set in stone which is quite sad when you think about it. Kishi needs to resolve the romance asap whichever pairing wins just give a clear answer and stop the ambiguity.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Mar 27 2013, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know some people think nh is canon but in my opinion the impression I get is that the romance drama is far from over, nothing is set in stone which is quite sad when you think about it. Kishi needs to resolve the romance asap whichever pairing wins just give a clear answer and stop the ambiguity.

Right now, it's about NH vs. NS. If you end NS, it will be obvious and the protagonist love aspect is complete. If you end NH, while it's obvious for many of us, it's not "obvious" to general audience, so they will see fit to see NS vs. SS. Right now, it's do or die.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 27 2013, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Right now, it's about NH vs. NS. If you end NS, it will be obvious and the protagonist love aspect is complete. If you end NH, while it's obvious for many of us, it's not "obvious" to general audience, so they will see fit to see NS vs. SS. Right now, it's do or die.

I really would like to think NH is canon so I can be sure the romance subplot is resolved but I can't see it, it's a possibility like NS. I think shippers from all sides will jump at any hint or ambiguousity to statz their pairing is canon but truth of the matter nothing is and only time will tell. At this point i just want an answer no matter the outcome and so far all I see is Kishi playing the same old game.

Edited by Awes9, 27 March 2013 - 10:00 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE (Yoshimario @ Mar 27 2013, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow people still talk about this pairing with assurance? NS needs a bullet to the head, it's a cult of denial washing in a sea of OOC fan made traits that degrade a girl to be the main characters posessive mommy and kitten hole. I really hate how creppy hentai otaku like sunahara makes misconceptionally leading porn of a pairing so far from any sexual beligerance that it creates a fantasy of two people enjoying a couple who doesn't have mutual feelings towards each other. NS is basically self projecting the protagonist as the boyfriend of a girl who's agressively bipolar and simply a insecure mess of a female lead who depends off of said protagonist for another angle with the rival romantically. Or maybe it's stopped being about the couple and more about boinking the girl who represents our deepest failures in trying to woo.

Hinata on the other hand, is pretty much what Naruto needs, a partner and a great idealist like he is, Sakura is pragmatic and fickle just like the other characters who oppose Naruto's philsophy, her logic and her basis of understanding concept make her less understanding of a vision Naruto seeks and will seek out. NS also unlike NH has no balance, charisma, trust or faith it's all smokes and mirrors. Sakura and Naruto have more panel time but they always never seek out each other for a personal conflict they hide there feelings and dwell on the past tense especially involving Sasuke. So it's like a one night stand for shot term couples.

I see the fans as fair though, I won't judge there preference in the couple but alot of fans think just because Naruto and Sakura are close and undoubtly one of the manga's best dynamics means they have to fall in love or force Sakura to fall in love with Naruto. rolleyes.gif


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:01 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ Mar 27 2013, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe that Darkrest was right... This topic attract too much the fans of opposite fandoms...

Yeah which is fine if they want a friendly debate. The problem is the handful that join just so they can troll and ruin it for everyone else. Even if our fan base wanted to brush off this cover and remain positive about it you have those that seek to destroy that mindset. That is why we have multiple pages of discussion in regard to a silly cover.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Mar 26 2013, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am highly disappointed. I will definitely drop Naruto series because he has, indeed, degraded this story to levels that can't even be explained. He said he will make Sakura more heroine, makes Hinata look more heroine than her and then gives her a cover also. "Nice" playing Kishi, really nice...


Um, and how many covers has Hinata been on vs Sakura? Is Hinata really that threatening?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

QUOTE (AaaaNinja @ Mar 27 2013, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, and how many covers has Hinata been on vs Sakura? Is Hinata really that threatening?


sakura is still the heroine >:D

it's just lately whenever hinata does come on she seems to do something really cool >:u.......like that confession....and that speech.......

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:14 PM

All the bla, bla, bla about NS fans this and NS fans that, I said it before NS fandom might have some bad apples but it's clear like water witch fandom likes to attack the other side more I hardly see any NS fans going in to a NH or SS dedicated site to preach about their NS nonsense, but now we are the arrogant ones, the embarrassment and the ones who needs to grow up.

Member yesterday many members behave a terrible way against a friendly NH fan, but that still does not erase all the harassment many of the NS fans goes trough to a point where they are tired of hearing the opposing fandom, not because difference opinion since everyone has different taste and see things differently. This irritation is more about how some fans can be very rude towards others.

Now NS fans need to take a bullet to the head, sadly this is not the worst thing I ever hear. sad.gif

Edited by Don-kun, 27 March 2013 - 10:17 PM.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (Awes9 @ Mar 27 2013, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really would like to think NH is canon so I can be sure the romance subplot is resolved but I can't see it, it's a possibility like NS. I think shippers from all sides will jump at any hint or ambiguousity to statz their pairing is canon but truth of the matter nothing is and only time will tell. At this point i just want an answer no matter the outcome and so far all I see is Kishi playing the same old game.

I know. To me, one pairing will die here and when it happens, it will be obvious from that point on. I just hope there's isn't too much confusion of who's going whom. Luckily, for now, Sasuke being the opposing side does lessen the chance for many mushy stuff, unlike NH, they're in the same side. So yeah, it will be resolved in this next battle phase in my opinion.

QUOTE (AaaaNinja @ Mar 27 2013, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, and how many covers has Hinata been on vs Sakura? Is Hinata really that threatening?

Apparently it is. Sigh. I told you. NH is the main threat and no one here wants to admit it.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Mar 27 2013, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know. To me, one pairing will die here and when it happens, it will be obvious from that point on. I just hope there's isn't too much confusion of who's going whom. Luckily, for now, Sasuke being the opposing side does lessen the chance for many mushy stuff, unlike NH, they're in the same side. So yeah, it will be resolved in this next battle phase in my opinion.


Apparently it is. Sigh. I told you. NH is the main threat and no one here wants to admit it.

That's what I feel too, the next phase of this battle up to the end of this fight will resolve one pairing once and for all, it can go either way it's Kishi's call.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 10:34 PM

Ok so I was curious about the cover thing so I went back and looked through them starting @ beginning of Shippuden.

Sakura has been on 2 covers with Naruto one had Kakashi on it as well.
This is the 2nd cover Hinata has been on with Naruto the first one was with her team.

So all things considered they're both equal!

The funny thing is neither of them can compete with sasunaru!
Sasuke has shared cover 3 times and even had 4 covers all to himself!


Annnnnd all it takes is one word from Naruto ...damn i was so sure they even kissed!
Erhhh never mind then......




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