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[Tsuki Hoshino]

just fyi; There is totally nothing creepy about xraying someone's belongings

its not stalkerish at all. 

[Phantom_999]

That is used a lot to show how Hinata is much better as a person than Sakura. Even though with Sakura they also went to Ichiraku and Naruto paid in any event.

 

YEAAAAH...................... can someone explain to me how settling for somewhere just because your date can't pay for it, makes you a better person? Sakura would be JUST AS understanding if not more, but even crack a joke by playfully demanding Naruto take her to a more romantic place next time. On another note, can anyone spot the difference with How Naruto was behaving with the thought of his and Hinata's first date in contrast to how he WOULD behave at going out with Sakura? Naruto is being awkward and trying too hard to impress Hinata whereas he would just have been his happy goofy self to just even take Sakura out. Yeah NARUHINA IS SOOOOOOO ROMANTIC, HOW COULD I NOT SEE IT BEFORE!!!!???? ROFL

Edited by Phantom_999, 14 February 2018 - 11:23 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

YEAAAAH...................... can someone explain to me how settling for somewhere just because your date can't pay for it, makes you a better person? Sakura would be JUST AS understanding if not more, but even crack a joke by playfully demanding Naruto take her to a more romantic place next time. On another note, can anyone spot the difference with How Naruto was acting with the thought of his and Hinata's first date in contrast to how he WOULD act at going out with Sakura? Naruto is being awkward and trying too hard to impress whereas he would just have been his happy goofy self to just even take Sakura out. Yeah NARUHINA IS SOOOOOOO ROMANTIC, HOW COULD I NOT SEE IT BEFORE!!!!???? ROFL

 

I think DrK was being sarcastic XD Not that you aren't being sarcastic and all.

[Phantom_999]

Oh I know, I wasn't directing that at him, I know he's explaining the the reasoning for it plus, pointing out how ludicrous it is

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 February 2018 - 02:04 AM.

[RulesofNature]

Watching a video on Kreia from Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II. Here's a quote from her that summarizes why NaruHina happening because of Kishi's pity feels so wrong.

 

 

It would have been better if he had found her on his own. By aiding him you have only weakened him. He was at a moment of crisis, a moment of indecision. It is those internal struggles when they are fought and won that yields the strongest rewards. You took that battle from him, cheapened it. If he truly loved her, truly, he would have entered the refugee center on his own, damn the Exchange, damn everything in his path and taken her. You have made their union easier, not better. If you care for them then dispense with pity and sacrifice, and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory.

 

It's also why giving Naruto a bunch of powerups at the end, as well as explaining the advantages he had at the beginning due to Uzumaki blood, only served to undermine Naruto himself so greatly. He was supposed to be the dead last, the loser who failed the genin test three times. It's why him learning the Kage Bushin technique resonates so greatly, as he overcame his own defeats and came out stronger than if he had simply passed. Remember, having Kurama was originally a double-edged sword as it affected his ability to control chakra as well as the damage it did to him when in tailed-modes. Naruto being able to contain the 9-Tails became cheapened when it was revealed that he was only able to do so due to his heritage, along with other beneficial Uzumaki traits. Naruto learning to work with Kurama felt great and like the Kage Bushin it meant something. The god-mode powers Naruto was given at the end of the series lacked this, and like Kaguya felt out of place to the rest of the story.

 

But back to NaruHina. With Hinata being given her husbando, it ultimately denied her the character growth she so desperately needed. She remained the same little girl she always was, chasing after Naruto even when she swore she wouldn't anymore. Her lack of focus ultimately hurt her, as it removed the struggle from her pursuit. Naruto just ended up with her at the end of the manga despite everything that pointed to him shacking up with Sakura. Then The Last came along, which served to invalidate Naruto's feelings for Sakura to remove her as a threat, all while trying to establish Hinata had already won years before without knowing.

 

And if we go off my previous analysis that Hinata believes she has to defend Naruto from everything, their relationship only seeks to weaken him. It's not Hinata who is getting Boruto to understand his father's (supposed) greatness, it's the experiences Boruto has outside of their family that will ultimately mature the little poop and restore his relationship with his father. Again, Hinata's problem is being solved by someone else saving her the trouble and means to grow, likewise it's solving the problem for Naruto to continue validating the behavior that created the problem in the first place.

[jak123]

Watching a video on Kreia from Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic II. Here's a quote from her that summarizes why NaruHina happening because of Kishi's pity feels so wrong.

 

 

It's also why giving Naruto a bunch of powerups at the end, as well as explaining the advantages he had at the beginning due to Uzumaki blood, only served to undermine Naruto himself so greatly. He was supposed to be the dead last, the loser who failed the genin test three times. It's why him learning the Kage Bushin technique resonates so greatly, as he overcame his own defeats and came out stronger than if he had simply passed. Remember, having Kurama was originally a double-edged sword as it affected his ability to control chakra as well as the damage it did to him when in tailed-modes. Naruto being able to contain the 9-Tails became cheapened when it was revealed that he was only able to do so due to his heritage, along with other beneficial Uzumaki traits. Naruto learning to work with Kurama felt great and like the Kage Bushin it meant something. The god-mode powers Naruto was given at the end of the series lacked this, and like Kaguya felt out of place to the rest of the story.

 

But back to NaruHina. With Hinata being given her husbando, it ultimately denied her the character growth she so desperately needed. She remained the same little girl she always was, chasing after Naruto even when she swore she wouldn't anymore. Her lack of focus ultimately hurt her, as it removed the struggle from her pursuit. Naruto just ended up with her at the end of the manga despite everything that pointed to him shacking up with Sakura. Then The Last came along, which served to invalidate Naruto's feelings for Sakura to remove her as a threat, all while trying to establish Hinata had already won years before without knowing.

 

And if we go off my previous analysis that Hinata believes she has to defend Naruto from everything, their relationship only seeks to weaken him. It's not Hinata who is getting Boruto to understand his father's (supposed) greatness, it's the experiences Boruto has outside of their family that will ultimately mature the little poop and restore his relationship with his father. Again, Hinata's problem is being solved by someone else saving her the trouble and means to grow, likewise it's solving the problem for Naruto to continue validating the behavior that created the problem in the first place.

It denied both Sakura and Hinata and Ino character growth.

 

Hinata moving away from Naruto.

 

Sakura and Ino moving away from Sasuke.

 

I bring up Ino because let's be real. She only got with Sai because he was Sasuke's replacement.

[VanitasDS76491]

It denied both Sakura and Hinata and Ino character growth.
 
Hinata moving away from Naruto.
 
Sakura and Ino moving away from Sasuke.
 
I bring up Ino because let's be real. She only got with Sai because he was Sasuke's replacement.

Thats true and they only interacted once.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Thats true and they only interacted once.

 

Yeah, which is why that the ending is still BS because it hurts a lot of other characters

[winter-serenade]

Still mad that Neji died to serve as a a “cupid” for NH. Started to appreciate his character more when I read his fight with Kidomaru, only to find out he died for a kittening ship.

[Illnevergiveup3]

I'm writing a 1 million ways to die in Konoha, with Hinata as the only character in it. She shall be revived and killed off in a different way over and over again.

[RulesofNature]

Still mad that Neji died to serve as a a “cupid” for NH. Started to appreciate his character more when I read his fight with Kidomaru, only to find out he died for a kittening ship.

 

Worse, Naruto proceeded to ignore Hinata for two years. Because nothing says bringing two people together better than them having nothing to do with each other for such a time period.

 

I like to imagine Analyzer still reads these forums and is steaming she can't reply back.

Edited by RulesofNature, 25 January 2018 - 04:19 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Still mad that Neji died to serve as a a “cupid” for NH. Started to appreciate his character more when I read his fight with Kidomaru, only to find out he died for a kittening ship.

Right neji is the better and more interesting character than bland princess.
  

I'm writing a 1 million ways to die in Konoha, with Hinata as the only character in it. She shall be revived and killed off in a different way over and over again.

Please tell me there hellraiser like deaths for her.
  

Worse, Naruto proceeded to ignore Hinata for two years. Because nothing says bringing two people together better than them having nothing to do with each other for such a time period.
 
I like to imagine Analyzer still reads these forums and is steaming she can't reply back.

Thats funny with analyzer and her bull kitten. Someone needs to go back to writing school and learn how to write love.

[Phantom_999]

Once Again I will go on to say how SH------IT of a romance Naruto ended up being by comparing it the "god tier" couple in Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card.

 

WATCH THIS!!!!  This brings genuine tears of joy to your eyes and wraps a fuzzy warm blanket around your heart!!!!   Was that kitttening TRASH HEAP "The Last" able to pull THIS OFF?

 

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 January 2018 - 05:49 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Once Again I will go on to say how SH------IT of a romance Naruto ended up being by comparing it the "god tier" couple in Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card.
 
WATCH THIS!!!!  This brings genuine tears of joy to your eyes and wraps a fuzzy warm blanket around your heart!!!!   Was that kitttening TRASH HEAP "The Last" able to pull THIS OFF?
 

Want to how much naruto failed at romance, that power rangers got this better with tommy and Kimberly and later tommy and kat even that was forced, andros and ashely in space, and probably the best couple in power rangers wes and jen, and they had good reasons why they couldn't be together wes and jen.

[Nostradamus]

Seeing that screenshot of that girl holding on to Scumbag Naruto while Hinata is in the foreground covered in shadows gives me the heebie jeebies.

So creepy, it's like she was directly pulled from a horror movie.

Edited by Nostradamus, 26 January 2018 - 07:16 PM.

[DrK]

Seeing that screenshot of that girl holding on to Scumbag Naruto while Hinata is in the foreground covered in shadows gives me the heebie jeebies.

So creepy, it's like she was directly pulled from a horror movie.

Well, that's not just any girl, but the beautiful and talented RBG#7. Hinata really is a horrible ogre in comparison.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Well, that's not just any girl, but the beautiful and talented RBG#7. Hinata really is a horrible ogre in comparison.

 

Heh. I see Hinata as pretty, but she ain't there with Sakura and Ino of the Leaf 13's girls for sure :)

[Tsuki Hoshino]

I think the majority of Hinata's creepiness is the vacant, souless eyes. 

[Kasimir38]

About her eyes, I once saw a picture in which she had blue photoshopped eyes, it looked kinda cool as if she had more personality.

Edited by Kasimir38, 26 January 2018 - 10:42 PM.

[DrK]

About her eyes, I once saw a picture in which she had blue photoshopped eyes, it looked kinda cool as if she had more personality.

If she had different color hair, that would help as well. I am really not a fan of blue and pale white as a color scheme.