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Posted 27 March 2010 - 05:24 PM

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Even if she believes again he isn't beyond salvation, it doesn't neccessarily imply anything romantic towards Sasuke.


actually given the pattern between Naruto Sakura and Sasuke it would imply the opposite. Once again it is Sasuke who makes her worry and saddened, and Naruto who provides her with Inspiration and happiness. Given standard Shonen story themes this would mean Sakuras looking even more at Naruto.
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Posted 27 March 2010 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Mar 26 2010, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
did kishi really stated that sakura loves sasuke....


Let's get one thing straight in the real complete Kishi 2010 interview not N/H, S/S or N/S version like they are saying. rolleyes.gif

Kishi exactly says" Naruto is close but as expected Sakura....for Sasuke..." he never said the word love.

Looking at it from a realistic point of view what Kishi was trying to say is that" Naruto is close to Sakura's heart but she cares for Sasuke" however it doesn't specify whether she cares for him romantically or as a friend and teammate.

In addition Kishi said that Sakura still worries for Naruto NOT that she worries for Sasuke. This could have a hidden meaning that the "worry" could be related to the word love.

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Posted 27 March 2010 - 06:08 PM

Ohh Bah! I hate, hate, hate going back to that fandom tainted interview.

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Any crack pairings going against NS? I saw NaruTema because Temari apparently knows how it is to live with a Jinchûriki because her brothers one... Oh please.

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Posted 27 March 2010 - 06:48 PM

@fireandice, Your right, i think this will help spark Sakura doing more training and save Naruto from Sasuke since he said they'll die together.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 27 March 2010 - 06:50 PM.


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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:11 AM

I was just lurking through NF (more like the NH FC) just to see the craziness and I just can't believe they have this going. facepalm.png I'm just speechless and somewhat disturbed.

Has NS fans done that or it's that just part of their desperation?

Edited by crazyefra, 28 March 2010 - 04:18 AM.

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Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSaku, (Fem)NaruSaku, NaruSasu (as brothers, rivals, best friends), ShikaTema, NaruInoSaku, NaruHarem (excluding Hinata), MinaKushi, ChouIno, YahiKona
Fairy Tail: NatsuLucy, NatsuErza :D
Bleach: IchiRukia

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Fairy Tail: Erza, Happy, Natsu, Grey, Lucy, Gajeel
Bleach: Ichigo, Nell, Kenpachi, Rukia, Karin, Kon

Misc.: Linkin Park, Green Day


In between Anti and Pro: --Click here to view--

Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
Bleach: Orihime, Chad

Misc.: Yuri :D



Pairings:
Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

Characters:
Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
Bleach: Aizen, Yamamoto

Misc.:Twilight, Yaoi, Fillers, Sakura bashing

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:17 AM

Wow... I'm calling that one big *facepalm*

When they'll become canon? I can guarentee 99.99% they won't, that .01% is if Kishimoto suddenly becomes a bad writter and decides to screw-over the whole story :]

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:30 AM

@crazyefra

I lol-ed when I saw that.

I have no idea, just WHAT is it with NaruHina? Many other popular pairings like ShikaTema, ItaSaku seem to be able to function on the acknowledgment that it might not become canon but people who ship it still think they look cute or the pairing is hot etc. But NH can't >_>- most of them think it WILL be canon. (I used to be one of them, so I know it, yeah. I did drop NH without going through much anguish though. I just saw how Naruto and Sakura's interactions in Part 2 had changed.)

Well, in all honesty, if you read the manga unbiasedly, NaruSaku has development and it wouldn't be too far-off to bet when they would become canon smile.gif.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:38 AM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Mar 27 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was just lurking through NF (more like the NH FC) just to see the craziness and I just can't believe they have this going. facepalm.png I'm just speechless and somewhat disturbed.

Has NS fans done that or it's that just part of their desperation?


When will NH be canon bet? not to be arrogant but I will bet nothing at all because the chances to that happening are probably 0.2% facepalm.png

Edited by Gravenimage, 28 March 2010 - 05:38 AM.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:40 AM

No Graven-kun, 0.01% chance they would become canon 99.99% they won't become canon ^^

Think over your calculations xD

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 06:01 AM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Mar 28 2010, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was just lurking through NF (more like the NH FC) just to see the craziness and I just can't believe they have this going. facepalm.png I'm just speechless and somewhat disturbed.

Has NS fans done that or it's that just part of their desperation?

and they're betting with REP

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 08:08 AM

LOL at NH and SS... Sideshipping to NaruKarin laugh.gif
..Personally, I like NaruKarin too but i am a NaruSaku Shipper too mad.gif

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 09:14 AM

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I have no idea, just WHAT is it with NaruHina?


I ignore the causes myself, but I guess it was a blend of several factors: loathing towards Sakura, SasuSaku fans longing for someone removing Naruto's influence, and mainly the Kicked Puppy factor ("Poor Hinata! She is so cute and so nice and she has suffered so much! I hope she ends up with Naruto! Moreover, she loves him, unlike that pink harlot! Sakura can get Sasuke"). The Blood Oath and Chapter 98 built their hopes up. Too much.

From that day they have been completely unwilling to admit maybe they get too excited about it, and their hopes were irrealistic.

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LOL at NH and SS... Sideshipping to NaruKarin


I look forward to the next argument: "Sakura doesn't deserve Naruto because she was a Sasuke-obsessed fangirl. Karin is way better for Naruto!"

I have seen NaruIno fans spewing variations of that phrase the whole time. And it is very irritating and annoying (I like NaruIno, but... Come on! Ino wasn't nicer to Naruto than Sakura -as a matter of fact, she was less nice-, and she wasn't less Sasuke-obsessed than Sakura. And neither of them were so obsessed like fandom would have me believing, anyway).

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Mar 28 2010, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I ignore the causes myself, but I guess it was a blend of several factors: loathing towards Sakura, SasuSaku fans longing for someone removing Naruto's influence, and mainly the Kicked Puppy factor ("Poor Hinata! She is so cute and so nice and she has suffered so much! I hope she ends up with Naruto! Moreover, she loves him, unlike that pink harlot! Sakura can get Sasuke"). The Blood Oath and Chapter 98 built their hopes up. Too much.

From that day they have been completely unwilling to admit maybe they get too excited about it, and their hopes were irrealistic.


Plus what seems to be the only relevant point when they post in the telegrams thread, at least- she has DD boobs, and they want to see her naked. They know if she ends up with any of the other secondary characters they'll have no chance of seeing her naked.

Not that Kishimoto will draw any of the named female characters naked- where you can actually see anything. Sakura, if I'm remembering correctly, is the only one of the named female characters that has been drawn in a scene where they were naked- and note how Kishimoto had her sitting so far down in the water, and had her hands hiding the start of her cleavage- at the hot springs in part 2 (chapter 286)

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/286/15/

Kishimoto does give just a hint of cleavage for Sakura in the next chapter though wink.gif

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/287/02/

Edited by ciardha, 28 March 2010 - 04:46 PM.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Mar 28 2010, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Plus what seems to be the only relevant point when they post in the telegrams thread, at least- she has DD boobs, and they want to see her naked. They know if she ends up with any of the other secondary characters they'll have no chance of seeing her naked.

Not that Kishimoto will draw any of the female characters naked- where you can actually see anything. Sakura, if I'm remembering correctly, is the only one of the named female characters that has been drawn in a scene where they were naked- and note how Kishimoto had her sitting so far down in the water, and had her hands hiding the start of her cleavage- at the hot springs in part 2 (chapter 286)

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/286/15/

Kishimoto does give just a hint of cleavage for Sakura in the next chapter though wink.gif

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/287/02/


Whoa Kishi gave such short amount of cleavage view from Sakura that it's not noticeable at all. Although Sakura may not be developed on the front she's very well developed on the back if you get what I'm saying happy.gif If I'm not mistaking Kishi has shown scenes where he shows Sakura's behind and it's very noticeable, also I believe the animators have done the same thing. In shippuden movie 2 there is a part where Sakura gets knocked down and the camera shows her unconcious on her back focusing a lot on her bottom. Maybe it's just me but I'm making a point here honest. sleep.gif
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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:02 PM

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Plus what seems to be the only relevant point when they post in the telegrams thread, at least- she has DD boobs, and they want to see her naked. They know if she ends up with any of the other secondary characters they'll have no chance of seeing her naked.


Heh. Of course. But since I was talking about her first appearances (when she started being popular), I decided omitting that point.

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Although Sakura may not be developed on the front she's very well developed on the back if you get what I'm saying


Sakura IS developed. She happens to have normal-sized breasts.

Several days ago I was checking several old anime shows -Mazinger Z, Gatchaman/Battle of the Planets- and I realized back in those shows it was considered a woman was well-endowed when her breasts were normal-sized. Now? According some anime fans, she must have gigantic mammal glands or she is flat-chested (and in modern Mazinger/Gatchaman remakes, Sayaka Yumi and Princess/Jun have bigger breasts and displays way more cleavage than thirty years ago).

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:09 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Mar 28 2010, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whoa Kishi gave such short amount of cleavage view from Sakura that it's not noticeable at all. Although Sakura may not be developed on the front she's very well developed on the back if you get what I'm saying happy.gif If I'm not mistaking Kishi has shown scenes where he shows Sakura's behind and it's very noticeable, also I believe the animators have done the same thing. In shippuden movie 2 there is a part where Sakura gets knocked down and the camera shows her unconcious on her back focusing a lot on her bottom. Maybe it's just me but I'm making a point here honest. sleep.gif


She's built like the traditional standard of beauty for a Japanese woman. The standard is more skinny, a bit taller and a lot smaller through the hips and bottom in 2000's Japan, but still about B cup breasts like Sakura's are the average and the ideal. You can see Sakura's breast size when she does something that pulls her shirt more tight against her breasts, action scenes or doing an upper body turn, like here:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/245/14/

That amount cleavage in 287 looks about right for B cup breasts with no bra and arms raised.

Jenskott, I watched old dubbed into English anime like those series and Speed Racer (Mach Go Go Go in Japan) growing up and yeah, Sakura's breast size would have been perhaps slightly large for a main female character in those days.

Michi/Trixie (Mach Go Go Go/Speed Racer)
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Sayaka of Manzinger Z is probably the first main female to even have size B cup breasts (and that's with Go Nagai's rather well known breast fixation laugh.gif Cutie Honey, Devilman Lady, Kekko Kamen, etc...)

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Edited by ciardha, 28 March 2010 - 06:12 PM.

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Posted 28 March 2010 - 05:51 PM

I would also like to add that Sakura is bootylicious. heheelq7.png
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Posted 28 March 2010 - 06:42 PM

Don't worry Insurrection, we'll be back to normal debates any second now laugh.gif This thread needs a bit of lighthearted but educational fun breaks from time to time to keep it going and keep it from drifting toward other character bashing. smile.gif
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