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[Phantom_999]

Personally for many reason I don't think it would be a flop.

I also don't think any of his work will be a huge hit like naruto. I think it would be better he just write scifiction for fun since I don't think he has a capability to pull something deep and well written manga.

 

Well it;'not out yet so it is just pure speculation.But I really feel that it will probably get axed pretty soon in its run because again we both bring up that it is no Naruto so it definitely not going to be a huge hit probably,a and again you may think other wise but again a lot of people don't care about Naruto anymore, and once you lose your faith in a series like that would you realistically want to try anything that the writer makes next? I wouldn't think think so

 

and what reasons don't you think that the series will fail? The fact of the matter is Kishimoto's rep took a huge hit with "The Last", so again I don't think many will give his series a try much less give it a vote to stay in any magazine that runs his new sci-fi series

Edited by Phantom_999, 18 December 2017 - 07:52 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

Well it;'not out yet so it is just pure speculation.But I really feel that it will probably get axed pretty soon in its run because again we both bring up that it is no Naruto so it definitely not going to be a huge hit probably,a and again you may think other wise but again a lot of people don't care about Naruto anymore, and once you lose your faith in a series like that would you realistically want to try anything that the writer makes next? I wouldn't think think so

 

and what reasons don't you think that the series will fail? The fact of the matter is Kishimoto's rep took a huge hit with "The Last", so again I don't think many will give his series a try much less give it a vote to stay in any magazine that runs his new sci-fi series

It's kind of funny how Naruto is both considered popular and unpopular all at the same time.

Just think about this?
"I believe his new series will take off"
Response: "It's no Naruto."
"I hope this series will have a good ending and make everything"
Response: "Hey, it's no Naruto."

Naruto is like in this perpetual state of being in limbo. We don't know if it is good or bad. It is good for a good portion, but then it went bad because of the ending. So is Naruto still good or bad?

It is going down in history as one of the worst plots in manga now...I guess it has become infamous like Twilight and Tommy Wiseau

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

I wanted to show you guys something. I went to my local Books-a-million and I found these box sets for the Naruto series. Now there were many box sets there and most of them looked the same with maybe different placements, but just for the purpose I put these here.



I have to ask: Where is Hinata? I mean, she is the main heroine right? I get told thousands upon thousands of times that Hinata was the main heroine in the Naruto manga and how she was pinnacle to the story, but I don't see her here at all. Where is she?

Maybe she is that Hyuga standing below Sakura.....no, wait that is Neji. Where is Hinata? I feel like these box designers missed something.

Ever since the backlash to The Last, SP seemed to be trying to play damage control as quickly and as much as possible, including shoving Hinata back to the background again and no longer forcing her into Team Seven group shots for ads and such.

[James S Cassidy]

Ever since the backlash to The Last, SP seemed to be trying to play damage control as quickly and as much as possible, including shoving Hinata back to the background again and no longer forcing her into Team Seven group shots for ads and such.

I also love how they put Sakura and Naruto together with Kakashi in the background. I wonder how many got confused by the this thinking that these two characters are the main characters and thought they were going to be a couple in the end. I have seen covers of romance anime and box sets of other manga and they usually have like the two main characters and love interest as the biggest on the covers. Meanwhile, in the story. I do like the image of Sakura and Naruto with Kakashi in the back, but it is so misleading now.


By the way, if anyone would like to see into the mind of a pedophile in 2 seconds please look at this picture. (P.S. If you don't want to...please ignore it entirely and don't open it.)

"I love little girls, they make me feel so good." -Mikio Ikemoto (Illustrator of Boruto)

Edited by James S Cassidy, 19 December 2017 - 12:19 AM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Salad is what, 10? And running around in high heels. GJ parenting Sakura.

[Kagomaru]

 

Well it;'not out yet so it is just pure speculation.But I really feel that it will probably get axed pretty soon in its run because again we both bring up that it is no Naruto so it definitely not going to be a huge hit probably,a and again you may think other wise but again a lot of people don't care about Naruto anymore, and once you lose your faith in a series like that would you realistically want to try anything that the writer makes next? I wouldn't think think so

 

and what reasons don't you think that the series will fail? The fact of the matter is Kishimoto's rep took a huge hit with "The Last", so again I don't think many will give his series a try much less give it a vote to stay in any magazine that runs his new sci-fi series

You also have to consider that SP and Shueisha have not allowed us to forget Naruto, which is another factor that will impact the fate of Kishimoto's upcoming series because Boruto's continuation means that we are constantly reminded of his flaws in terms of writing consistency in his themes, plot and characterization, instead of allowing these facts to fade from memory over the last three years. IOW, thanks to his lack of spine and SP's desire to milk the cow dry, the debut of his new manga will likely be met with a lackluster reception.  I wish that I could feel pity for him if that does become the probable outcome, but y'know, bitter.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

You also have to consider that SP and Shueisha have not allowed us to forget Naruto, which is another factor that will impact the fate of Kishimoto's upcoming series because Boruto's continuation means that we are constantly reminded of his flaws in terms of writing consistency in his themes, plot and characterization, instead of allowing these facts to fade from memory over the last three years. IOW, thanks to his lack of spine and SP's desire to milk the cow dry, the debut of his new manga will likely be met with a lackluster reception.  I wish that I could feel pity for him if that does become the probable outcome, but y'know, bitter.

 

No kidding, Kagomaru, and the fact that they won't let us forget how they ****** us up the butt with what they did.

[Phantom_999]

It's kind of funny how Naruto is both considered popular and unpopular all at the same time.

Just think about this?
"I believe his new series will take off"
Response: "It's no Naruto."
"I hope this series will have a good ending and make everything"
Response: "Hey, it's no Naruto."

Naruto is like in this perpetual state of being in limbo. We don't know if it is good or bad. It is good for a good portion, but then it went bad because of the ending. So is Naruto still good or bad?

It is going down in history as one of the worst plots in manga now...I guess it has become infamous like Twilight and Tommy Wiseau

 
Well for me Naruto is actually below the standard of Twilight because again Twilight's conclusion and couple were "logical" with how the story builds up the characters, the writing etc. Naruto on the other hand was just half-arsing it's themes, and I really think some were just thrown in just to sound  "deep and philosophical". Plus, in the end they were not achieved or got shafted because of the new gen project and, as you say, Hinata Hyuga, the shy, mild mannered, "beeewbs with legs" princess had to get her way. Hell I think that Naruto (by Chpater 700 and "The Last") is WORSE than any  Japanese battle-harem light novel series (YES even the anime adaptations of those light novels) that give no thought to the setting, fight scenes, plot points, adventures, and locigal consistency other than how to show how love struck and turned on the haremettes are for the MC and how the MC is op and is the best at what the series is  about, because at least that is the intention and theme, whereas Naruto both subverted and betrayed its intentions and themes last minute. Why did Naruto betray its themes? Because SP were fantasizing about rolling in the moola of Naruto's international fan-base that they IMAGINE are majority NaruHina fans and are financially supporting the franchise. On the flip side of things, Kishimoto literally gave up on trying to defend his story's intentions and didn't care about the series' integrity anymore.
 
Plus I bring up Naruto's popularity not as a measuring stick for the new sci-fi manga, but to point out how it may potentially get AXED because Naruto has the worst, illogical, contradictory ending in all of known literature and story telling in general. It was like a fairy tale meant to portray some sort of message to it's readers only to be at the last second "psyche!!!! That was not the meaning of the story at all!!!! The true meaning of the story is the "false pretense" of TWUE WUV!!!!!" So Naruto is actually WORSE than a fairy tale. So I am bringing up the fact that it was popular because it had the ultimate "fall from grace" in any story telling conclusion that I, you, or anyone else here can think of can think of. Add that all together and do you think that it is plausible for Kishi's new manga to last a few weeks, much less months? Maybe it is just wishful thinking from me because I had not only had my expectations betrayed but also am told utter bullkitten from all authorities of the franchise that I've been reading it wrong, but I DON'T imagine Kishi's negative rep at the moment will have many willing to give his series a thought, much less a chance. And again this stems from the fact that Naruto WAS popular, but then nose dived through the earth and burned at the earth's core

Edited by Phantom_999, 23 December 2017 - 12:03 PM.

[Namaenash]

I wanted to show you guys something. I went to my local Books-a-million and I found these box sets for the Naruto series. Now there were many box sets there and most of them looked the same with maybe different placements, but just for the purpose I put these here.



I have to ask: Where is Hinata? I mean, she is the main heroine right? I get told thousands upon thousands of times that Hinata was the main heroine in the Naruto manga and how she was pinnacle to the story, but I don't see her here at all. Where is she?

Maybe she is that Hyuga standing below Sakura.....no, wait that is Neji. Where is Hinata? I feel like these box designers missed something.

Contrary to what people believe, when it comes down to commercial and revenue generating fictional figures, Hinata has never been a cause of traction.

It's either Naruto + Sasuke, Team 7, or akatsuki.

There was once Hinata made it to volume cover (volume 64, handholding debacle). The Year on Year volumes sales dropped about 1 million copies compared to the previous years, and continued to decline.

[Yyubie]

I also love how they put Sakura and Naruto together with Kakashi in the background. I wonder how many got confused by the this thinking that these two characters are the main characters and thought they were going to be a couple in the end. I have seen covers of romance anime and box sets of other manga and they usually have like the two main characters and love interest as the biggest on the covers. Meanwhile, in the story. I do like the image of Sakura and Naruto with Kakashi in the back, but it is so misleading now.


By the way, if anyone would like to see into the mind of a pedophile in 2 seconds please look at this picture. (P.S. If you don't want to...please ignore it entirely and don't open it.)

"I love little girls, they make me feel so good." -Mikio Ikemoto (Illustrator of Boruto)

LOL , that is clear shot of panties      , i remember last time i saw Salad on manga they at least try to hide her panty but this time they decide to take another step into echi genre!! 

 

You also have to consider that SP and Shueisha have not allowed us to forget Naruto, which is another factor that will impact the fate of Kishimoto's upcoming series because Boruto's continuation means that we are constantly reminded of his flaws in terms of writing consistency in his themes, plot and characterization, instead of allowing these facts to fade from memory over the last three years. IOW, thanks to his lack of spine and SP's desire to milk the cow dry, the debut of his new manga will likely be met with a lackluster reception.  I wish that I could feel pity for him if that does become the probable outcome, but y'know, bitter.

The cow already dead , the flesh already rotten and infested with thousand of maggot. Not even Hyenas want to eat it.

[James S Cassidy]

 
Well for me Naruto is actually below the standard of Twilight because again Twilight's conclusion and couple were "logical" with how the story builds up the characters, the writing etc. Naruto on the other hand was just half-arsing it's themes, and I really think some were just thrown in just to sound  "deep and philosophical". Plus, in the end they were not achieved or got shafted because of the new gen project and, as you say, Hinata Hyuga, the Shy, mild mannered, "beeewbs with legs" princess had to get her way. Hell I think that Naruto is WORSE than any  Japanese battle-harem light novel series (YES even the anime adaptations of those light novels) that give no thought to the setting, fight scenes, plot points, adventures, and plot and locigal consistency other than how to show how love struck and turned on the haremettes are for the MC and how the MC is op and is the best at what the series is  about, because at least that is the intention and theme, whereas Naruto both subverted and betrayed its intentions and themes last minute. Why did Naruto betray its themes? Because SP were fantasizing about rolling in the moola of Naruto's international fan-base that they IMAGINE are majority NaruHina fans and are financially supporting the franchise. On the flip side of things, Kishimoto literally gave up on trying to defend his story's intentions and didn't care about the series' integrity anymore.
 
Plus I bring up Naruto's popularity not as a measuring stick for the new sci-fi manga, but to point out how it may potentially get AXED because Naruto has the worst, illogical, contradictory ending in all of known literature and story telling in general. It was like a fairy tale meant to portray some sort of message to it's readers only to be at the last second "psyche!!!! That was not the meaning of the story at all!!!! The true meaning of the story is the "false pretense" of TWUE WUV!!!!!" So Naruto is actually WORSE than a fairy tale. So I am bringing up the fact that it was popular because it had the ultimate "fall from grace" in any story telling conclusion that I, you, or anyone else here can think of can think of. Add that all together and do you think that it is plausible for Kishi's new manga to last a few weeks, much less months? Maybe it is just wishful thinking from me because I had not only had my expectations betrayed but also am told utter bullkitten from all authorities of the franchise that I've been reading it wrong, but I DON'T imagine Kishi's negative rep at the moment will have many willing to give his series a thought, much less a chance. And again this stems from the fact that Naruto WAS popular, but then nose dived through the earth and burned at the earth's core

It is especially sad when some people believe and say that the whole point of the series was to put Naruto and Hinata together.

[DrK]

It is especially sad when some people believe and say that the whole point of the series was to put Naruto and Hinata together.

People like Masashi Kishimoto. Well, he said that. He certainly didn't believe it.

[Phantom_999]

It is especially sad when some people believe and say that the whole point of the series was to put Naruto and Hinata together.

 

Then those HYPOCRITES better not be using "Naruto is not a romance manga" argument for ANYTHING then.

Edited by Phantom_999, 20 December 2017 - 04:04 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

Then those HYPOCRITES better not be using "Naruto is not a romance manga" argument for ANYTHING then.

They use that argument to handwave the fact that NH and SS doesn't have enough development or has opposite development.

Even Analyzer used it here when we were talking about how ham-fisted the Naruto the Last movie was.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 20 December 2017 - 05:11 PM.

[Gravenimage]

They use that argument to handwave the fact that NH and SS doesn't have enough development or has opposite development.

Even Analyzer used it here when we were talking about how ham-fisted the Naruto the Last movie was.

 

Who?

[James S Cassidy]

 

Who?

The sun is shining, but the ice is slippery.

I know we want to forget who Analyzer was here, but I tend to remember to make sure she doesn't show up again or more like her coming to this forum.



 

[RulesofNature]

 

Then those HYPOCRITES better not be using "Naruto is not a romance manga" argument for ANYTHING then.

Then they go on about how The Last was great because it showed how Naruto and Hinata got together. It really highlights who they were really cheering for.

[DrK]

Then they go on about how The Last was great because it showed how Naruto and Hinata got together. It really highlights who they were really cheering for.

Yes, it's great that we needed an anime movie, which are typically not canon, to explain how a couple got together in canon. When if it was Naruto and Sakura you wouldn't even have needed that. You would have needed like 2-3 pages.

[Kagomaru]

Yes, it's great that we needed an anime movie, which are typically not canon, to explain how a couple got together in canon. When if it was Naruto and Sakura you wouldn't even have needed that. You would have needed like 2-3 pages.

Heck, NaruSaku got a movie (A Road to Ninja)and unlike the Last, not only was it actually written by the manga's creator, it didn't have to rely on sock puppet accounts to create rave reviews to crow its genuine success.

[DrK]

Heck, NaruSaku got a movie (A Road to Ninja)and unlike the Last, not only was it actually written by the manga's creator, it didn't have to rely on sock puppet accounts to create rave reviews to crow its genuine success.

It's incredibly bizarre to not end with that pairing after you made a movie about it. And the events of the movie are referred to as a really long "date". FFS.

 

It's my hope that one day, I am going to stop being shocked at how ridiculous the Naruto ending was.