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[DeathGodMack]

It isn't really biased. Kubo drew a honeymoon spread featuring Ichigo and Rukia. Kubo drew Ichigo and Rukia for a fan, when the fan only asked for Ichigo because "I can't imagine one without the other." Kubo wrote poems about Ichigo and Rukia. Orihime was jealous of Ichigo and Rukia. Ichigo has never even once called Orihime by her first name. 

Why do ichiruki fans like to bring up stuff kubo does on the side? Because Like i said kubo can draw/make w.e he wants on the side but that has nothing to do with cannon or the actual manga. Kubo can draw a spread of x character with x character but i'm not gonna use that to try and prove why x ship will happen or should of happened because it has no relevancy to what's in the manga. So according to some ichiruki fans Bleach and Naruto are now shounen-romance manga makes no sense but ok.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 05 September 2016 - 08:13 PM.

[T XD]

Pretty much this.

Its not being biased, its what the story told us and then turn around to do something that makes no sense and wonder what is going on

It got Naruto'ed

[Namikaze Clan]

It isn't really biased. Kubo drew a honeymoon spread featuring Ichigo and Rukia. Kubo drew Ichigo and Rukia for a fan, when the fan only asked for Ichigo because "I can't imagine one without the other." Kubo wrote poems about Ichigo and Rukia. Orihime was jealous of Ichigo and Rukia. Ichigo has never even once called Orihime by her first name. Ichigo at no point responded to any of Orihime's advances. Ichigo slipped into depression on multiple occasions, and Orihime was never able to break him out, only Rukia did. Ichigo abandoned Orihime in Hueco Mundo once he found out Rukia was dying (he didn't do that for Chad.) Ichigo didn't even go to Hueco Mundo for Orihime...those are facts. That isn't bias. 

When did Orihime make any advances towards Ichigo?

[DeathGodMack]

It's what you interpreted from the manga not what it gave you. The manga never told you Ichigo loved Rukia more than friendship and vice versa that's the conclusion you came to not the manga. Also this is not the same as Naruto because Ichigo never started with feelings for either of them beyond friendship until he married Orhime his one true love. Secondly Orhime is not the same as hinata because she has fought her own battles,gotten stronger and doesn't just worry about Ichigo but all her friends,isn't "useless" and wasn't reduced to fan service bait. You guys are expecting way too much from shounen manga/anime. Shounen manga/anime will never have in your face romance because that's not what it's about.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 05 September 2016 - 11:20 PM.

[rocci]

My point is you can't defend RenRuki when battling IchiRuki.

If you mean that renrukia is terrible pairing because renji has antagonistic treatment to rukia than I disagree.

But if rr and ir are comparable to the point that kittening on ir is the same to kittening rr, then I have to agree.

[AHK]

When did Orihime make any advances towards Ichigo?

Asked him out twice (one way early in, one during the 17 months Rukia was away), when she basically showed off her breasts on the War Arc, etc.

Lolololol @deathmack "one true love" but never says her first name, abandons her for Rukia, etc lol

[TouKen4Life3g]

If you mean that renrukia is terrible pairing because renji has antagonistic treatment to rukia than I disagree.

But if rr and ir are comparable to the point that kittening on ir is the same to kittening rr, then I have to agree.

 

The latter.

[Ryriena]

UlquiHime was my crackship...lmao I will say that was even developed better than IchiHime...but its how I view it.

xd

[Ryriena]

Asked him out twice (one way early in, one during the 17 months Rukia was away), when she basically showed off her breasts on the War Arc, etc.

Lolololol @deathmack "one true love" but never says her first name, abandons her for Rukia, etc lol

And once were she actually tried to sexually assault him in his sleep cough I mean kiss him.

[alexander]

And once were she actually tried to sexually assault him in his sleep cough I mean kiss him.

 

Whatcha talkin bout? Everyone knows only man can commit sexual assault. Woman can only be victms~

[Ryriena]

 
Whatcha talkin bout? Everyone knows only man can commit sexual assault. Woman can only be victms~

Your kidding right? As a feminist that type of mind set can be dangerous.

[alexander]

Your kidding right? As a feminist that type of mind set can be dangerous.

Guess you're not very in touch with the views of modern feminists then...

And I was just making fun of your strawman arguments if that wasn't obvious enough.

Edited by alexander, 06 September 2016 - 02:34 PM.

[Ryriena]

Guess you're not very in touch with the views of modern feminists then...

And I was just making fun of your strawman arguments if that wasn't obvious enough.

But seriously how is that a straw man since that did actually happen in the manga.

[BlackBird19]

You know considering there was no romantic sub-plot in this manga, people sure seem to be acting like there was one. Look I can't blast the ending the way others can for the simple reason that Kubo was probably given enough time to end the manga, not complete it. So that left plot holes abound and pairings kind of sudden, but it in the end I think it was the best he could come up with on the fly.

 

Trying to put a human and a Shinigami together like Ichigo and Rukia would've taken some explaining on how it all works for them. Such as where they live, who made more of a sacrifice and how did they have a kid together. Meaning even less panel time for others. So try not to look too deep into this because I'm pretty sure the time frame given to Kubo by SJ was the ultimate factor for the unsatisfying ending.

Edited by BlackBird19, 06 September 2016 - 04:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm just here for the food. I'm only suggesting the contradiction and counters. Other than that, eh, series is practically dead. Only live action remain.

[alexander]

But seriously how is that a straw man since that did actually happen in the manga.

 

It happened, but calling an almost kiss sexual assault is a stretch. 

[Ryriena]

 
It happened, but calling an almost kiss sexual assault is a stretch. 

Well, it's an unwanted sexual advance, so it would be considered sexual assault by law. And possibly mild sexual harassment which are both illegal. Though this is going by our laws on the subject. I'm not familar with Japan's laws on the subject matter.

[LuckyChi7]

Not be rude, but can we discuss about things outside of pairings.

I'm starting to get sick of it atleast for Bleach.

Why don't we talk about characters.

For example:

Who was better, Byakuya or Kisuke?

[Ryriena]

Not be rude, but can we discuss about things outside of pairings.

I'm starting to get sick of it atleast for Bleach.

Why don't we talk about characters.

For example:

Who was better, Byakuya or Kisuke?

I would say Byakuya myself because he better himself and is actually bad ass.

[T XD]

Not be rude, but can we discuss about things outside of pairings.

I'm starting to get sick of it atleast for Bleach.

Why don't we talk about characters.

For example:

Who was better, Byakuya or Kisuke?

Byakuya. Kisuke spent most of the times we saw him in his lab and the shop.

Edited by T XD, 06 September 2016 - 09:19 PM.