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#47301 DrK

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 09:44 PM

I am also very sad that Karin, Suigetsu, and the like have basically become throw away characters when I found them more interesting than some of the other characters that are still around. Are we to expect them to make a show in Boruto any time soon? Probably not. I don't know who has a worse fate now. Naruto, Sakura, or Karin.

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Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:06 PM

I wonder what Analyzer would say to this:

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This goes without saying, but so what do you call a bunch of Pro-enders who can't even accept the canon either?


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Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:11 PM

That real picture always makes me laugh. Naruto's stupid faux rage. "How dare you skip out on Hinata-hime's home cooked meals which I don't even bother to attend myself! You little s***!"



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Posted 26 November 2017 - 10:22 PM

I can't get over how god awful they ALL look.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 01:27 AM

I wonder what Analyzer would say to this:

Real picture:
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Pro-enders:
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This goes without saying, but so what do you call a bunch of Pro-enders who can't even accept the canon either?


Oh kitten no them kittening NH are not still using our NaruSaku art are they James, because if they are man I will use a Death Note on them.

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Posted 27 November 2017 - 01:32 AM

Oh kitten no them kittening NH are not still using our NaruSaku art are they James, because if they are man I will use a Death Note on them.

If you have one, can't you use it on Kishimoto to get him to release the real ending? Though Geass would be more well suited for something like this.


Edited by DrK, 27 November 2017 - 01:33 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 01:56 AM

But it's implied. It even is shown in several databooks that he loved her. Like... how hard is it to understand this? It's HINTED that he loved Sakura.

If you just said NaruSaku shouldn't have been canon, that would be at least tolerable. But you completely disregard Naruto's true feelings. Which is ironic considering how much you love chastising others for allegedly doing that exact thing...

 

Sai: You love Sakura, don't you Naruto?

 

Naruto: Whaaaa???!!

 

Sai: I read in a book people always smile around the ones they love, did you tell her how you feel?

 

*Naruto's face turns serious*

 

Naruto: HOW CAN I? I CAN'T EVEN KEEP MY PROMISES.

 

That's NARUTO himself confirming he loves her, it's coming from the horse's mouth. No way of disputing that.

 

Simple Formula:

 

Naruto+Kept Promise= "Sakura-Chan, you have such a large and charming forehead... I love you(in a nutshell.)

 

Which in turn brings a Happy Sakura-Chan who tells him she loves him as well.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:02 AM

Naruto+Kept Promise= "Sakura-Chan, you have such a large and charming forehead... I love you(in a nutshell.)

Sakura: Sorry, Naruto, but I still love Sasuke-kun. I'm going to go be with him now. Thanks for bringing him back! Sorry about the arm. Bye!

 

Pro-enders actually believe that this is what she would say and that it would be totally in character for her.


Edited by DrK, 27 November 2017 - 02:02 AM.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:06 AM

I wonder what Analyzer would say to this:

Real picture:
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Pro-enders:
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This goes without saying, but so what do you call a bunch of Pro-enders who can't even accept the canon either?

 

Um... contradictory hypocrites unhappy with their "win"?



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:09 AM

 

Um... contradictory hypocrites unhappy with their "win"?

Kishi honestly should've just done an unrealistic OOC fairytale ending for NH/SS. With a nurturing father Sasuke and Naruto smiling all the time. At least then SOMEONE would be happy. This kitten alienates everyone.



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 02:49 AM

Kishi honestly should've just done an unrealistic OOC fairytale ending for NH/SS. With a nurturing father Sasuke and Naruto smiling all the time. At least then SOMEONE would be happy. This kitten alienates everyone.

 

No kidding, but we're the ones who would call him out on his BS no matter what.



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:24 AM

I wonder what Analyzer would say to this:

Real picture:
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Pro-enders:
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This goes without saying, but so what do you call a bunch of Pro-enders who can't even accept the canon either?

 

... I just don't like the pictures. At all. Ever since The Last, it just rehash of Masashi's drawings the team desperately trying to make NH appealing to parallel MinaKushi which was disgracing us NaruSaku fans. Why they couldn't make new drawings? (But then again, Masashi redrew the family with the NH spawn from the RtN pic just for the hell of it to spite us and the actual fans.) This is a first of a franchise that somehow rehashing pics from stuff that made sense in the past just to please a certain group. I don't see this in other fandoms. For example, I didn't see this for Bleach doing this when IchiHime and RenjiRuki became canon.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:35 AM

 

... I just don't like the pictures. At all. Ever since The Last, it just rehash of Masashi's drawings the team desperately trying to make NH appealing to parallel MinaKushi which was disgracing us NaruSaku fans. Why they couldn't make new drawings? (But then again, Masashi redrew the family with the NH spawn from the RtN pic just for the hell of it to spite us and the actual fans.) This is a first of a franchise that somehow rehashing pics from stuff that made sense in the past just to please a certain group. I don't see this in other fandoms. For example, I didn't see this for Bleach doing this when IchiHime and RenjiRuki became canon.

Well with NS you have parallels that promote the pairing from an emotional standpoint. They would like to replicate that, as NH is basically just random with no development, and SS is misanthropic and OOC on both sides. If there was some kind of parallel existing for those, they wouldn't seem as bad. So they steal kitten from NS.

 

This wasn't an issue with Bleach because Kubo had actually planned to do those pairings, no matter how much he ultimately rushed the ending.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:44 AM

Well with NS you have parallels that promote the pairing from an emotional standpoint. They would like to replicate that, as NH is basically just random with no development, and SS is misanthropic and OOC on both sides. If there was some kind of parallel existing for those, they wouldn't seem as bad. So they steal kitten from NS.

 

This wasn't an issue with Bleach because Kubo had actually planned to do those pairings, no matter how much he ultimately rushed the ending.

 

Yeah, I agree on all you said, DrK, and it also shows how the NH fans hate what NS had, which is actual development and depth, something they never really got, even if they brag they "won", which once again proves to me how this is just a Pyrrhic victory for them.

 

Actually, which is why even if the ending was rushed for Bleach, I give Mr. Kubo credit since you can see development way early on for Ichigo and Orihime, as well as for Renji and Rukia, even with the crap many of them went through in different points.



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:49 AM

Actually, which is why even if the ending was rushed for Bleach, I give Mr. Kubo credit since you can see development way early on for Ichigo and Orihime, as well as for Renji and Rukia, even with the crap many of them went through in different points.

I mean, no matter how much more I liked Rukia and would have wanted IchiRuki to be canon, it's possible that it would have completely screwed up the ending and the whole story, who knows? We'll never find out because Kubo was actually responsible and didn't f*** everything up like Kishimoto did.



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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:52 AM

Well with NS you have parallels that promote the pairing from an emotional standpoint. They would like to replicate that, as NH is basically just random with no development, and SS is misanthropic and OOC on both sides. If there was some kind of parallel existing for those, they wouldn't seem as bad. So they steal kitten from NS.

 

This wasn't an issue with Bleach because Kubo had actually planned to do those pairings, no matter how much he ultimately rushed the ending.

 

That right there is where we the audience (the real audience who follows the story, not just for pairings) see things that doesn't make sense and felt cheated because the promoter wants this info "legitimate" as possible for a certain group and recon stuff that they "somehow" believed that we probably won't see when the money rolls in. However, it's backfiring because majority knows and saw, especially with modern technology.

 

As for Bleach, remember the topics stating Kubo always trolls during the run? Looks like that was a misinterpret.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 03:58 AM

Here's a suggestion I've been thinking about for a while, and you know there is that  saying you either die a hero or  you live long enough to see yourself become the villain, and the crazy thing is a show like Yugioh Arc V is a great example, I mean look at this scene: 

 

 

 

Here is the thing everyone, that right there is THE MAIN PROTAGONIST, Yuya Sakaki. The story is about him, and I mean granted its a Yugioh Series so you know pretty well how things are gonna turn out make no mistake about that, but man I was shocked that the writers and Konami had the balls to turn their protagonist into not just a villain, but the final villain in the series that you see at the end of the video. The final villain  you see is a Dragon named Zarc.  

 

In a way you can say he's like Naruto being cheery, and kinda goofy, but it kinda got me wondering seeing how Yuya became the final villain. How would you guys feel if something like this happened with Naruto. I don't really have a full concrete idea, but I imagined it had to do with resurrecting the Ten Tails.  


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 04:49 AM

^ Gundam did something similar recently with Iron Blooded Orphans. Funny enough it aired right next to Arc-V.

 

All throughout the show the protagonists, Tekkadan, are shown in a fairly positive light. They're a bunch of child soldiers who staged a coup against their employers, and during the first season they became seen as heroes for their actions but (once you rewatch the series after seeing the end) it starts appearing less happy. Tekkadan becomes an unhealthy environment for it's members, kids who believe in sacrificing themselves for the good of the group, killing anyone who stands in their way, and following their leader without question. The MC's development even has him believing his own dreams and ambitions are a distraction from serving the boss and is fully willing to slaughter anyone who stands in his way. We go into the second season where the narrative continues to overtly put them in a positive light and are making the right calls, the implications point to them not being the heroes people think they are. In the end, they lose, most of the characters are killed, and they're seen as the bad guys by the public.

 

And this ended up enraging a bunch of viewers, who in my experience tended to ignore the implications. It's kinda telling that once Tekkadan's actions led to them suffering consequences people began saying the writing became terrible. From what I've heard, the director has even said that he'd like to make a movie for the series if the fans forgive him.


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 08:09 AM

Lol. I see some people are shipping Sarada with a fictional character Shinachiku. Isn't that like incest because that would make them half blooded siblings  :headscratch:


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Posted 27 November 2017 - 08:11 AM

Lol. I see some people are shipping Sarada with a fictional character Shinachiku. Isn't that like incest because that would make them half blooded siblings  :headscratch:

Wouldn't she by necessity have to be a SK kid then? Unless it's a divorce thing but then Sarada would be way older than Shinachiku?


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