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[RyohkiFan]

i'm talking about the ending because you said that sasuke treats karin differently, when that amounted to nothing in the end. if he treated her differently like you said, then something would have obviously blossomed in the end for both sasuke and karin.
 
sasuke tried to kill both girls for different reasons. with karin it was the ultimate betrayal and with sakura he just did it just to get her out of the way while she was healing karin. you could argue that how he murdered karin was less damaging, but that isn't really saying much now is it? both could have died and we wouldn't be having this discussion if one of them did.
 
do you realize the moment that i'm comparing them to involves the attempted murder for both girls? when sasuke tried to kill karin the whole "he treats her better than sakura" goes out the window. she could have died had it not been for sakura (the girl he doesn't treat better than karin) there to heal her.

Kishi and his disrespect to women

[RyohkiFan]

Time for me to sleep. Tomorrow...Well...my vow shall commence!

night

[Princess Iris]

i'm talking about the ending because you said that sasuke treats karin differently, when that amounted to nothing in the end. if he treated her differently like you said, then something would have obviously blossomed in the end for both sasuke and karin.
 
sasuke tried to kill both girls for different reasons. with karin it was the ultimate betrayal and with sakura he just did it just to get her out of the way while she was healing karin. you could argue that how he murdered karin was less damaging, but that isn't really saying much now is it? both could have died and we wouldn't be having this discussion if one of them did.
 
do you realize the moment that i'm comparing them to involves the attempted murder for both girls? when sasuke tried to kill karin the whole "he treats her better than sakura" goes out the window. she could have died had it not been for sakura (the girl he doesn't treat better than karin) there to heal her.

definitely,

He betrayed Karin, he just used her...

& the whole Karin as his favourite thing is proabaly in terms of usefulness...

[Khaleesi]

Can I just say how I find it to funny when you start with "you don't understand " you do this often I noticed and for some reason it cracks me up      no offense XD . 

 

 You really gonna make me rewatch the ending again    and her saying that didn't mean he agreed to what she said   I took it as her being delusional or something a nutcase would say and he had no choice  and his sister cried bc he was stuck with her in the end and her brother had no choice .   

 

I'll rewatch it tomorrow as I'm going to sleep now but I'm hell of a sure he didn't stay with her  for the reasons you stated  that he was "willing to"  .

He didn't say it out loud. But it was obvious, c'mon.

 

i'm talking about the ending because you said that sasuke treats karin differently, when that amounted to nothing in the end. if he treated her differently like you said, then something would have obviously blossomed in the end for both sasuke and karin.
 
sasuke tried to kill both girls for different reasons. with karin it was the ultimate betrayal and with sakura he just did it just to get her out of the way while she was healing karin. you could argue that how he murdered karin was less damaging, but that isn't really saying much now is it? both could have died and we wouldn't be having this discussion if one of them did.

 

do you realize the moment that i'm comparing them to involves the attempted murder for both girls? when sasuke tried to kill karin the whole "he treats her better than sakura" goes out the window. she could have died had it not been for sakura (the girl he doesn't treat better than karin) there to heal her.

that argument is so wrong in so many levels. if sakura and naruto loved each other what it didn't blossomed in the end? lmao.

no, no, no. the murder attempt is not the resume of everything. that's selective reading.

[ramenanmitsu]

@ns4life
Hey I saw this on tumblr. Is it true? Because if it is, it's super hilarious

A Japanese fan who attended Jump Fiesta 2015 told me on Twitter that there were 2 cosplayers of Naruto and Hinata there along with the cartoon figures of the other characters and Naruto’s cosplayer was saying lines like “Keep believing in me !” etc and when he said “Never give up” some fan told him “Shut up, scumbag”

[DeathGodMack]

[luffyq1]

that argument is so wrong in so many levels. if sakura and naruto loved each other what it didn't blossomed in the end? lmao.

no, no, no. the murder attempt is not the resume of everything. that's selective reading.

because girls aren't allowed to leave their first love, that's why. 

 

the murder attempt may not be the the entire resume, but it's definitely the biggest stain on it. if sasuke treated karin better than sakura, then he wouldn't have tried to murder her in the first place. he would have found a way to get to danzo without sacrificing the suppose girl that he treated better. 

[ramenanmitsu]

Great the pirated version is out! We should let the NH fans watch this before it hits the theaters as a congratulations gift!

[Khaleesi]

because girls aren't allowed to leave their first love, that's why. 

 

the murder attempt may not be the the entire resume, but it's definitely the biggest stain on it. if sasuke treated karin better than sakura, then he wouldn't have tried to murder her in the first place. he would have found a way to get to danzo without sacrificing the suppose girl that he treated better. 

1) and that's why. it has nothing to do with karin and sasuke's relationship then. that's why what you are saying is out of place as almost everything you've said.

2)kitten. sasuke's goals>everything else.

treating karin better and having a better dinamic doesn't have anything to do with that.

[RyohkiFan]

@ns4life
Hey I saw this on tumblr. Is it true? Because if it is, it's super hilarious

A Japanese fan who attended Jump Fiesta 2015 told me on Twitter that there were 2 cosplayers of Naruto and Hinata there along with the cartoon figures of the other characters and Narutos cosplayer was saying lines like Keep believing in me ! etc and when he said Never give up some fan told him Shut up, scumbag

It's alright if I answer since he went to sleep right? Well she said that and even posted a picture of it to prove it, so far most of her info been correct

[RyohkiFan]

Why....why....just why...

[luffyq1]

1) and that's why. it has nothing to do with karin and sasuke's relationship then. that's why what you are saying is out of place as almost everything you've said.

2)bullsh**. sasuke's goals>everything else.

treating karin better and having a better dinamic doesn't have anything to do with that.

just because his goal means everything to him doesn't give him the right to sacrifice karin like that. and it has everything to do with their relationship. their dynamic meant nothing in the end when he used her and disposed of her like trash. hell, he even ordered sakura to kill karin just so she can replace her as the healer.

[ramenanmitsu]

It's alright if I answer since he went to sleep right? Well she said that and even posted a picture of it to prove it, so far most of her info been correct

Did they say how Kishi reacted?

[Atheck]

Score is back up to its dull, familiar 2.84.

 

 

We know part 3 will be focused on the next generation! We can say with 99% accurency (based on 700) that Bolt will be MC!

 

With the info from Ramen. That Naruto/Hinata/NaruHina/Bolt is hated in Japan right now. The part three series will flop for sure.

 

Tho I can see them wank the next movies with adding Sasuke. Tho that's also not going to work in the longer run!

 

I don't believe the Sasuke or Hinata fandoms alone are going to earn Part 3 the momentum it needs to survive. The latter group has become almost completely isolated with a number of their SS allies turning face because of the studio's pandering to her instead of giving their OTP some attention. And much of 2chan is already feeling resentful towards their new "main character". Sasuke will need an amazing and prominent role in the next film to ensure it any success.

 

 

@ns4life
Hey I saw this on tumblr. Is it true? Because if it is, it's super hilarious

A Japanese fan who attended Jump Fiesta 2015 told me on Twitter that there were 2 cosplayers of Naruto and Hinata there along with the cartoon figures of the other characters and Naruto’s cosplayer was saying lines like “Keep believing in me !” etc and when he said “Never give up” some fan told him “Shut up, scumbag”

 

It was posted here already. Still very awesome though. I wonder how the cosplayers reacted when they heard that.

[Khaleesi]

just because his goal means everything to him doesn't give him the right to sacrifice karin like that. and it has everything to do with their relationship. their dynamic meant nothing in the end when he used her and disposed of her like trash. hell, he even ordered sakura to kill karin just so she can replace her as the healer.

omg. take away your moral from me. didn't i said in the beginning that 1) i'm playing the devil's advocate 2) it's kittene up, that's not something we will discuss about.

argh. it has to do with their relationship but is not what i'm talking about. my god. 

[AHK]

I'm interested to take a look into the works of Seishi Kishimoto! I'll read Sukedachi Nine sometime this week!
Parasite is something I've been interested in for a while now, but I need to research more about it before I'll give it a try.

It's only got one chapter out, but the story had an interesting concept. I need to research Parasite more too.

 

He sure does, I've read 666 Satan (O Parts Hunter is the name Viz named it by for obvious reasons) and it is truly a spectacular series from start to finish. I'm also reading Sukedachi Nine from Seishi  so far it's pretty good, apparently mytheory were true about Sukedachi Nine being a Monthly series so I'm just like ugh... first AOT then Noragami and now Sukedachi 9 why must you do this to me manga? Why?? Though I do have Boku No Hiro and Tokyo Ghoul that are weekly so I still have those to enjoy on a  weekly basis.

 

No but seriously give 666 Satan a try, you won't regret reading it. 

Yeah, I'll definitely give it a go, I'll probably read Noragami first just because it's shorter, but I'll definitely look at 666 satan 

i recently read about oda's interview where he was asked to give his opinion regarding the trend that 'shonen titles are increasingly becoming oriented towards shojo tendencies' he reply that shonen titles should not turn into shojo"

 

Q：When your manga is animated, I'm sure you have to communicate  with the studio staff, so what is your first impression of them?
oda: I greeted all the staff at the beginning. At that time I felt that I met a group of good staff, because everybody understand shonen manga there. they don't care about "moe", i think this is superb. in my opinion i only wish to immerse myself in the shonen manga world. 

Since I'm publishing a work on a shonen manga, so i have to satisfy the male demographic audience. this is my job. but after i became a professional, every time when i receive fan letters, i realize most of them are from girls. maybe guys are too lazy to write (laugh) 

 

When I come to the realization that a lot of girls would express their opinion, and I look around the manga world, i would feel "this person, did he just blindly follow the girls' opinions?" I have seen these kind of cases happen a lot. And so, because some mangaka treat the fan letters as customer demands, they followed their fans wishes to write the manga. But in the end, the work would also become a shojo (laugh) Well when you draw according to their demands there's no doubt that it would be a shojo oriented work. I feel that is a grave mistake

Q：So the original audience, the male readers do not put forward their views 
Oda: Yes, that's why, I can only take my past memories as a teenager, and use that as a standard to draw my manga. of course that is not to say there are no male teens who never sent their opinions. when i look at the new year cards my parents sent to me, i would notice a few fan letters from male readers(laugh)

 

So from that, I'm able to have at look at how the real male teens would think. Like  "I like this battle" "I like this particular moveset" etc. I'll read it and sigh "ah, this kind of feedback makes me feel happy" Therefore I have to prioritize the valuable opinions of these male readers. Of course, fan letters from girls make me happy too. Their happy chit chat is not bad too. But if I am swayed by their opinions then I  might lose my position in the shonen magazine, and would lose my value as a mangaka. About that, i am serious about it when i first  serialized the manga.

 

oda is such a wonderful writer with integrity  .. look at the wonderful passive aaggressive tone he uses towards this disastrous trend. i actually thought he's talking about kishimoney and studio hinarot, but this interview is in may 2013.

Well, him and Kishi are friends, he might have known or suspected Kishi sold out or something so he could have been making a reference lol. 

 

Anyway, that's why I love Oda. He does things his way, and suggestions are just that; suggestions. He doesn't let anyone tell him what to do with his brain-child, and it really shows. His writing has stayed consistent throughout the entire series. It's part of the reason OP is so good.

[RyohkiFan]

Did they say how Kishi reacted?

If you mean from the yelling scumbag, I don't think he was around, so no...but they did say some didn't clap when he mentioned Burrito and Junko shushed him

[Khaleesi]

i recently read about oda's interview where he was asked to give his opinion regarding the trend that 'shonen titles are increasingly becoming oriented towards shojo tendencies' he reply that shonen titles should not turn into shojo"

 

Q：When your manga is animated, I'm sure you have to communicate  with the studio staff, so what is your first impression of them?
oda: I greeted all the staff at the beginning. At that time I felt that I met a group of good staff, because everybody understand shonen manga there. they don't care about "moe", i think this is superb. in my opinion i only wish to immerse myself in the shonen manga world. 

Since I'm publishing a work on a shonen manga, so i have to satisfy the male demographic audience. this is my job. but after i became a professional, every time when i receive fan letters, i realize most of them are from girls. maybe guys are too lazy to write (laugh) 

 

When I come to the realization that a lot of girls would express their opinion, and I look around the manga world, i would feel "this person, did he just blindly follow the girls' opinions?" I have seen these kind of cases happen a lot. And so, because some mangaka treat the fan letters as customer demands, they followed their fans wishes to write the manga. But in the end, the work would also become a shojo (laugh) Well when you draw according to their demands there's no doubt that it would be a shojo oriented work. I feel that is a grave mistake

Q：So the original audience, the male readers do not put forward their views 
Oda: Yes, that's why, I can only take my past memories as a teenager, and use that as a standard to draw my manga. of course that is not to say there are no male teens who never sent their opinions. when i look at the new year cards my parents sent to me, i would notice a few fan letters from male readers(laugh)

 

So from that, I'm able to have at look at how the real male teens would think. Like  "I like this battle" "I like this particular moveset" etc. I'll read it and sigh "ah, this kind of feedback makes me feel happy" Therefore I have to prioritize the valuable opinions of these male readers. Of course, fan letters from girls make me happy too. Their happy chit chat is not bad too. But if I am swayed by their opinions then I  might lose my position in the shonen magazine, and would lose my value as a mangaka. About that, i am serious about it when i first  serialized the manga.

 

oda is such a wonderful writer with integrity  .. look at the wonderful passive aaggressive tone he uses towards this disastrous trend. i actually thought he's talking about kishimoney and studio hinarot, but this interview is in may 2013.

I can trust him. Oda <3 uvú

[Khaleesi]

If you mean from the yelling scumbag, I don't think he was around, so no...but they did say some didn't clap when he mentioned Burrito and Junko shushed him

I've read on tumblr that that wasn't the case. Junko didn't really shushed him the way we thought.

But tumblr is definitely NOT a reliable source anyway, lol.

Edited by theunburnt, 05 January 2015 - 06:59 AM.

[Michi]

i recently read about oda's interview where he was asked to give his opinion regarding the trend that 'shonen titles are increasingly becoming oriented towards shojo tendencies' he reply that shonen titles should not turn into shojo"
 

Q：When your manga is animated, I'm sure you have to communicate  with the studio staff, so what is your first impression of them?
oda: I greeted all the staff at the beginning. At that time I felt that I met a group of good staff, because everybody understand shonen manga there. they don't care about "moe", i think this is superb. in my opinion i only wish to immerse myself in the shonen manga world. 
Since I'm publishing a work on a shonen manga, so i have to satisfy the male demographic audience. this is my job. but after i became a professional, every time when i receive fan letters, i realize most of them are from girls. maybe guys are too lazy to write (laugh) 
 
When I come to the realization that a lot of girls would express their opinion, and I look around the manga world, i would feel "this person, did he just blindly follow the girls' opinions?" I have seen these kind of cases happen a lot. And so, because some mangaka treat the fan letters as customer demands, they followed their fans wishes to write the manga. But in the end, the work would also become a shojo (laugh) Well when you draw according to their demands there's no doubt that it would be a shojo oriented work. I feel that is a grave mistake

Q：So the original audience, the male readers do not put forward their views 
Oda: Yes, that's why, I can only take my past memories as a teenager, and use that as a standard to draw my manga. of course that is not to say there are no male teens who never sent their opinions. when i look at the new year cards my parents sent to me, i would notice a few fan letters from male readers(laugh)
 
So from that, I'm able to have at look at how the real male teens would think. Like  "I like this battle" "I like this particular moveset" etc. I'll read it and sigh "ah, this kind of feedback makes me feel happy" Therefore I have to prioritize the valuable opinions of these male readers. Of course, fan letters from girls make me happy too. Their happy chit chat is not bad too. But if I am swayed by their opinions then I  might lose my position in the shonen magazine, and would lose my value as a mangaka. About that, i am serious about it when i first  serialized the manga.

 
oda is such a wonderful writer with integrity  .. look at the wonderful passive aaggressive tone he uses towards this disastrous trend. i actually thought he's talking about kishimoney and studio hinarot, but this interview is in may 2013.

respect to this man.

Too bad I don't read One Piece. lol

It was a long, tiring night.

Was working with a cousin of mine with a ...project.

I will share about the project tomorrow. (;

GN everyoooone~ I need a good ass rest.