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[Tsuki Hoshino]

Hinata and that rock should have been canon  

 

[TheFirstEvil100]

Hinata and that rock should have been canon  

 

Lol I can see it now "Rock kun I.....I love you." Lol that would be funny well not for the rock that is, what's more funny is that simple rock has far more growth then Hinata will ever have.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Proportionally, That rock had more panel time then Hinata if we averaged it out 

[Kagomaru]

Hinata and that rock should have been canon  

 

 

Hinata and that rock should have been canon  

 

I still stand by the notion that Kishimoto should've canonized Mecha Naruto from UNS4 and handed him over to Hinata.  Problem solved and Hinata literally wouldn't see the difference (or care).

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Honestly, Kishimoto really missed the boat on not making this whole thing a Tsukiyomi nightmare, Think of all the soap drama that could have been had. Realizing the life you had, and always wanted was infact horrible for you, or in Hinata's case perfect, and then waking up one day and realizing it was all a lie. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 23 November 2017 - 06:59 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

It didn't end happily ever after anyways. So your complaint is nonsense. 

[DrK]

It was one of those "miserably ever after" endings.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

^ Nothing that was supposed to be accomplished at end was accomplished besides Naruto "Becoming Hokage." which he doesn't seem to find much enjoyment in either. 

[DrK]

^ Nothing that was supposed to be accomplished at end was accomplished besides Naruto "Becoming Hokage." which he doesn't seem to find much enjoyment in either. 

If he wasn't Hokage, he would be a hundred times happier. He could go travel around with Sasuke.

 

And if he did this, he could start a relationship with Sasuke. Which would make him happy for many reasons, not the least of which would be that now Sasuke would be with him instead of Sakura, so he doesn't have to feel bad that his best friend stole the love of his life away from him.

Edited by DrK, 23 November 2017 - 08:37 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

There is like nothing in the end of Naruto/Boruto that screams "This is a productive, normal happy life." its like it goes out of its way of  showcasing "Getting what you want but in the worst possible way." PLUS making a buttmonkey out of everyone. Except Sasuke, because he behaves more of less how everyone expected him to. Distant and a selfish person. 

Before You-Know-Who pops up with a "Oh I can't believe you think thats selfish behavior." YES, YES. Its selfish to marry a woman, have a child with her and NEVER be around. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 23 November 2017 - 08:51 PM.

[DrK]

There is like nothing in the end of Naruto/Boruto that screams "This is a productive, normal happy life." its like it goes out of its way of  showcasing "Getting what you want but in the worst possible way." PLUS making a buttmonkey out of everyone. Except Sasuke, because he behaves more of less how everyone expected him to. Distant and a selfish person. 

Before You-Know-Who pops up with a "Oh I can't believe you think thats selfish behavior." YES, YES. Its selfish to marry a woman, have a child with her and NEVER be around. 

It doesn't treat Sasuke well, because Sasuke would never have done that. You basically have to extrapolate that he did it because Naruto doesn't love Sakura, and Sakura only loves him so he is actually doing her a favor by marrying her, even though he really isn't. It's the only thing that makes any sense. In this case Sasuke comes off as the least ruined, but he's still ruined because he's basically being guilted into doing something just like Naruto was. And like you said, he's too self-centered to let that happen.

 

It wasn't possible to end the series with NHSS while also saying "The characters are productive and happy."

Edited by DrK, 23 November 2017 - 08:54 PM.

[Yyubie]

[TheFirstEvil100]

Lol I would laugh if this was true would fix everything well kind off mind you we would still have a lot of BS mind you, but the pro-enders shall be so pissed off that this was done.

[James S Cassidy]

 its about getting it right.

Which is nearly impossible since Toriyama himself can't get it right. When you even have Toriyama having to go back through his own work to try to remember how powerful Goku is disheartening.

Look what you started Ultranx
 

 

 

Goku stomps Supes (New 52 and possible Post Crisis) Supes has been knocked out by planet busting punches and stars exploding in his face. Goku's punches are galaxy plus cause him and Beerus clashing sent shockwaves that destroyed planets and could be felt by the Kais. SSG Goku has FTL combat and reaction speed. He easily caught Dyspo who was stated to be faster than light. He UI powerup was shaking an infinite void by him just exerting some Ki.

Supes doesn't have FTL combat speed and the only times he reaches FTL is when he is flying in a straight line and in space. 

Superman fans need to read up on DBS or watch DBS before they say stuff like this.

Wrong. Wrong on all fronts. At max level Superman is multi-universal+ power as stated by the Strange Visiter comic of Adventures of Superman #48.

You also mention Superman being knocked out with planet busting punches and star exploding.....wrong.
When Superman did his infinite mass punch to destroy the moon it didn't knock him out. In fact, he faked it to bring the villain out of hiding and it did no damage to him. Superman wasn't knocked out by going through a supernova 50 times the Kelper supernova.
Even so, this wasn't Superman's maximum potential and only a place in their timeline. Should I say that Cell beating Goku is proof that Goku can't beat Superman? No of course not, that would be stupid.

Buu was going to use an attack that was going to destroy the Earth 10 times over and Goku was kittening himself. If he can destroy the universe, why would he be scared of that?

I also don't believe the whole "Goku is universal" kitten either. Beerus is not even described as a universe buster and yet Goku can't defeat him. He can't even beat Jiren and Caulifa. I hope I spelled that right. Beerus has been known to destroy galaxies before.

Superman is able to keep up with the Flash, is faster and stronger than wonder woman, and has learned tons of Martial Arts from Batman, Black Kat, and even Mongul the II. So he has combat knowledge and even even perceive things going faster than light, on a molecular level, and can see through anything, but lead. He has tangles weith gods, magical deities, and more and still standing. He defeated death itself and even a time warper.

Superman is faster than light, but there is one thing people keep forgeting to mention....Nothing with mass can go faster than the speed of light and going 99% the speed of light would cause tons of damage to the Earth. Goku has been mortally injured by a Freeza henchman laser. This is not even looking at Supernovas. I also like how blowing up the sun supposedly doesn't kill Goku, but it kills almost everything else in the DBZ universe.

As for the combat speed....I suggest you read this
http://www.outskirts...t-speed-fallacy

The "combat speed argument" is such a bullcrap things because every DBZ fan brings this one up, but has no clear cut definition of how to calculate FTL combat speed.
How do you calculate it?
If it is how fast you can go + your reaction time+processing speed than Superman can do all three faster than light.
Same breath, DBZ fans say that Goku's IT is combat speed even though he has failed using in combat at times especially againts Buu, but The Flash fight Zoom going faster than time itself throwing punches is considered not combat speed. What the actual fudge?

In truth, noone can really fight FTL because you would dematerialize and become light itself. Nothing with mass can go faster than light. Only the Flash can really do this and the Flash has never beaten Superman in a fight. If combat speed determined the winner then how does Flash lose to Superman in a fight?

Though funny enough, Superman has been proven that he doesn;t move himself forward, he moves space around him. Superman's powers are quantum mechanic.

So unless you can give me specifics on what determines combat speed and how do you calculate it, then this is not a true argument to use? You also don't even take into the durability of each character since Superman has survived massive amounts of damage that Goku can't even begin to calculate.

Look at this and get an idea:


And still, If Goku is the most powerful, why is he getting his ass whopped by characters in his own series? At least Superman has an excuse with this in that he only puts out as much as he needs rather than always going 100% for two reasons: 1. He doesn't want to kill and 2. Superman doesn't like to cause damage if he can avoid it.

Shall I bring the World of Carboard speech again?


Maybe Ichigo should have beaten Naruto because "He has a higher combat speed than Naruto" and he technically does.

 

 

Lol I would laugh if this was true would fix everything well kind off mind you we would still have a lot of BS mind you, but the pro-enders shall be so pissed off that this was done.

 

I saw a fanart once of the whole Naruto the Last and such of stuff and Madara was sitting over everyone saying "That's right. Sleep my children and have wonderful dreams."

Edited by James S Cassidy, 23 November 2017 - 09:24 PM.

[DrK]

It's hilarious to think that this was the reality they fought so hard to preserve. Wouldn't the IT be way better?

[Gravenimage]

Another ran that makes sense thank you Lord.

 

 

 

Though there's some Sakura and Sasuke bashing but it's understandable.

Edited by Gravenimage, 23 November 2017 - 09:51 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Thats precisely the point. IT WOULD have been better for most of the characters involved. Sakura's dream would have been to marry Sasuke by "canon" but her dream would also have Sasuke ACTIVELY in her life, with her child. Naruto's would have been to be Hokage, probably with Sakura at that point in time and team 7 whole, his parents alive, ect. Sasuke would want his family back, and they would all have it. unless you think that the person wielding the IT can manipulate it on an individual scale and put a person in their utmost hell out of spite  

[Gravenimage]

I was wondering. Did they ever revealed" That jutsu"? 

[Kagomaru]

I was wondering. Did they ever revealed" That jutsu"? 

Nooope.  It fell into the void of plot holes like the Sage's Chakra Tools. 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

B-bu-but Kishimoto isn't a sloppy writer at all.