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[TouKen4Life3g]

My point is you can't defend RenRuki when battling IchiRuki.

[Ryriena]

There is zero evidence for Ishida x Orhime. There is no point in the manga where ishida and orhime are hinted to have feelings for each other.

Then why did Kubo draw this






She also still believed in him, when even his friends though he was a traitor. So their was some development between them but keep on believing that since you cant say anything about UlquioHeim anything about that pairing. At least that pairing actually almosted kissed, unlike your cannon pairings.

Edited by Ryriena, 05 September 2016 - 01:59 PM.

[alexander]

Then why did Kubo draw this
She also still believed in him, when even his friends though he was a traitor. So their was some development between them but keep on believing that since you cant say anything about UlquioHeim anything about that pairing. At least that pairing actually almosted kissed, unlike your cannon pairings.

Zomg!!! They had friendly interactions and were drawn together. It was meant to be!!

Ugh, if we are going that far remember it is Ichigo who has a matching outfit for Orihime.

I'm not going to debate renruki since I'm utterly indiferente to that ship. Bit my point stands that ichihime being canon in no way damages the plot.

[Ryriena]

Zomg!!! They had friendly interactions and were drawn together. It was meant to be!!

Ugh, if we are going that far remember it is Ichigo who has a matching outfit for Orihime.

I'm not going to debate renruki since I'm utterly indiferente to that ship. Bit my point stands that ichihime being canon in no way damages the plot.

Yes it does so basically since apparently Kubo wanted to ended it at the defeat of Azien lol with that last panel of Ichigo x Rukia lol

But it's weird why put hearts if it's meant as plotinc?

Edited by Ryriena, 05 September 2016 - 03:29 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

Personally I'm more disappointed that Yorouchi,Urahara, Nel, or Grimjow weren't seen or mentioned in the last two chapters

[LuckyChi7]

Still waiting for that interview with Kubo.. 

 

 

I'm sure the man's got alot he wants to talk about. 

[DeathGodMack]

Then why did Kubo draw this






She also still believed in him, when even his friends though he was a traitor. So their was some development between them but keep on believing that since you cant say anything about UlquioHeim anything about that pairing. At least that pairing actually almosted kissed, unlike your cannon pairings.

So if Kubo draws Renji and Chad kissing are you going to say they are in lover with each other too? Kubo can draw what he wants doesn't change whats in the actual manga.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 05 September 2016 - 05:15 PM.

[RyohkiFan]

IchiHime doesn't damage anything, its the way they ended up, Ichigo being at home like that and not seeing Rukia is very strange since the FullBringer (I think that was it) was basically Ichigo mourning the loss of his powers like Ichigo powers were his drug lol Ishida did have a better interaction with Orihime than Ichigo did because Ichigo never showed romantic interest for Orihime, so it was just unsatisfactory since it felt that Orihime got her wish but Ichigo was forced to push back especially because we NEVER got any indication to what Ichigo himself felt, only Orihime, so it's like how did this happen?! Renruki...meh that one was more best friends but at the same time better developed so its chill

[AHK]

Ichigo didn't take on all of the the 13 squads as he only fought a few. Secondly at that point in time Renji was not as strong as ichigo nore did he have the shiba clan cloak to protect him from the flames/heat of the Sōkyoku, The manga shows us later that Renji didn't have his real banki yet you guys think he could of saved rukia,fight all the of captains,the squads and get away all by himself? You also need to remember that if the info about Aizen didn't come out Rukia would still be hunted. Also i don't need validation for my ship.

As I said, you missed the entire point. Ichigo knew that at one point he' probably have to fight everyone, and still went regardless. He was prepared for the worst possible outcome. Renji was completely and utterly ok with her dying, because he was spiteful, resentful, and jealous until Ichigo beat the absolute kitten out of him.

 

Again, Renji was 100% okay with Rukia dying. Period.

[DeathGodMack]

As I said, you missed the entire point. Ichigo knew that at one point he' probably have to fight everyone, and still went regardless. He was prepared for the worst possible outcome. Renji was completely and utterly ok with her dying, because he was spiteful, resentful, and jealous until Ichigo beat the absolute kitten out of him.

 

Again, Renji was 100% okay with Rukia dying. Period.

So if your friend was accused of committing a major crime would you try to free them without any facts or information? No Secondly Bakuyua was going to let Rukia die as well untill Ichigo beat him so what about that? The ending of Bleach is bad but it's not because of the parings. 

Edited by DeathGodMack, 05 September 2016 - 06:05 PM.

[Ryriena]

So if Kubo draws Renji and Chad kissing are you going to say they are in lover with each other too? Kubo can draw what he wants doesn't change whats in the actual manga.

And yet again you missed my point by the at least they got a almost kiss with Ulquhime. Also Ishida looks at her like Ichigo does with Rukia and actually gives a damn about her safety compared to Ichigo, who absolutely abandoned his mission to rescue Oriheim to save Rukia. He also calls her by her first kittening name Inoue but hey at least he learned her first name.

You really think that Renji actually cared about her, after he basically left her to literally die out of spite.... That's a canon fact sorry if bring up cannon facts causes little to valadate the ships at the end.


Also Ichigo damn near did that in the manga so please stop with but he was planning bit.

Edited by Ryriena, 05 September 2016 - 06:08 PM.

[AHK]

So if your friend was accused of committing a major crime would you try to free them without any facts or information? No Secondly Bakuyua was going to let Rukia die as well untill Ichigo beat him so what about that? The ending of Bleach is bad but it's not because of the parings. 

What are you talking about? Renji was hostile towards Rukia about her dying, he taunted her about it! He also taunted her about the fact that Ichigo was going to die and that she wouldn't be saved. He wasn't going to let her die because he was following rules, he was going to let her die because he was being spiteful and jealous towards her. Keep in mind they hadn't talked for 40 years prior to him taking her from the world of the living. 

 

Byakuya was wrong too, yes. I talked about that a long time ago following the ending. The difference is that he actually kittening apologized for it, and explained to her what he was feeling. He admitted that the entire time he was conflicted about it, and ended up doing the wrong thing. Renji wasn't conflicted until during the fight with Ichigo. 

[RyohkiFan]

So if your friend was accused of committing a major crime would you try to free them without any facts or information? No Secondly Bakuyua was going to let Rukia die as well untill Ichigo beat him so what about that? The ending of Bleach is bad but it's not because of the parings. 

Pairing IS one of the reason why its bad...because of how it was shown at the end that causes you to ask how?! Renruki is whatever to me but it is true that IchiRuki had a better development and more shown to either be great friends or lover, I thought Ichigo was gonna be alone due to how he is

[RyohkiFan]

And yet again you missed my point by the at least they got a almost kiss with Ulquhime. Also Ishida looks at her like Ichigo does with Rukia and actually gives a damn about her safety compared to Ichigo, who absolutely abandoned his mission to rescue Oriheim to save Rukia. He also calls her by her first kittening name Inoue but hey at least he learned her first name.

You really think that Renji actually cared about her, after he basically left her to literally die out of spite.... That's a canon fact sorry if bring up cannon facts causes little to valadate the ships at the end.


Also Ichigo damn near did that in the manga so please stop with but he was planning bit.

UlquiHime was my crackship...lmao I will say that was even developed better than IchiHime...but its how I view it.

[AHK]

You can try to claim Parings are part of the reason the bleach ending sucked but it won't change the fact that Ichihime was the planed end game.(i dont care about renrukia) i understand you guys are biased and if Ichihime wasn't cannon i would be doing the same thing too but you must accept that Ichigo and Rukai only had a good friendship because again one of the main themes of shonen manga/anime is friendship/camaraderie.

It was clearly not planned at all. 

[DeathGodMack]

We are all biased about our respective ships so unless we can have a non biased discussion going back and fourth is pointless to me.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 05 September 2016 - 07:13 PM.

[RyohkiFan]

Ichihime and Ichiruki is whatever to me, could have gone either or but still the way they ended up wasn't well done

Sorry for the mistake, I meant wasn't lol

Edited by RyohkiFan, 05 September 2016 - 07:35 PM.

[AHK]

We are biased about our respective ships so unless we can have a non biased discussion going back and fourth is pointless.

It isn't really biased. Kubo drew a honeymoon spread featuring Ichigo and Rukia. Kubo drew Ichigo and Rukia for a fan, when the fan only asked for Ichigo because "I can't imagine one without the other." Kubo wrote poems about Ichigo and Rukia. Orihime was jealous of Ichigo and Rukia. Ichigo has never even once called Orihime by her first name. Ichigo at no point responded to any of Orihime's advances. Ichigo slipped into depression on multiple occasions, and Orihime was never able to break him out, only Rukia did. Ichigo abandoned Orihime in Hueco Mundo once he found out Rukia was dying (he didn't do that for Chad.) Ichigo didn't even go to Hueco Mundo for Orihime...those are facts. That isn't bias. 

[T XD]

If there are mutual moments from both sides, and moments where it's one sided from another character then the mutual moments would be the one who would end up together.

 

IR had mutual moments. IH had one sided moments. Which one wins ? It's IR.

 

The thing is that the one sided got it all of a sudden. So I think the IR fans simply meant that it's unfair.

Edited by T XD, 05 September 2016 - 07:28 PM.

[RyohkiFan]

If there are mutual moments from both sides, and moments where it's one sided from another character then the mutual moments would be the one who would end up together.
 
IR had mutual moments. IH had one sided moments. Which one wins ? It's IR.
 
The thing is that the one sided got it all of a sudden. So I think the IR fans simply meant that it's unfair.

Pretty much this.

Its not being biased, its what the story told us and then turn around to do something that makes no sense and wonder what is going on