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#47001 DrK

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:46 PM

 

Everyone in the ending is basically bat-**** crazy now!! Like what caused it?! Did the whole Naruto universe just go insane because of the ending that was decided?? Or did they just become stupid??????

If they act logically, the ending can't happen. Sasuke as portrayed wouldn't have taken Sakura away from Naruto, or taken Sakura at all. Sakura as portrayed would never have done that to Naruto regardless of how she felt about Sasuke, nor would she be willing to be with Sasuke after all that kitten. Naruto as portrayed wouldn't have given up and switched to Hinata so easily, or at all.

 

They had to become crazy so that the pairing fans could get what they wanted.


Edited by DrK, 19 November 2017 - 06:48 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:48 PM

Clearly Kaguya won and as punishment for Naruto+co trying to defy her she stuck them in a Nightmare version of their world A la OUAT's Storybrooke where everyone is miserable until Emma breaks it.   :hehehe:


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 06:59 PM

If they act logically, the ending can't happen. Sasuke as portrayed wouldn't have taken Sakura away from Naruto. Sakura as portrayed would never have done that to Naruto regardless of how she felt about Sasuke. Naruto as portrayed wouldn't have given up and switched to Hinata so easily, or at all, really.

 

They had to become crazy so that the pairing fans could get what they wanted.

 

And the series and those of us who didn't give as much of a **** about the pairings fully all paid the price.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:22 PM

 

And the series and those of us who didn't give as much of a **** about the pairings fully all paid the price.

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It's just crazy to think about what his mindset would have to have been like. There's no way he wasn't attached to his characters. I get that he was sick of people complaining about Sakura, but Naruto was even his self-insert. He'd been writing him for 15 years. How do you do something like that?

 

And he based Sakura on his wife. Seriously, what the hell?


Edited by DrK, 19 November 2017 - 07:22 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:12 PM

It's just crazy to think about what his mindset would have to have been like. There's no way he wasn't attached to his characters. I get that he was sick of people complaining about Sakura, but Naruto was even his self-insert. He'd been writing him for 15 years. How do you do something like that?
 
And he based Sakura on his wife. Seriously, what the hell?


Youre joking, right? Sooo, Sakura is based off of Kishimoto's wife, and Naruto is basically Kishi's self insert, and NaruSaku isn't canon despite this????

I mean, it doesn't have to be the only proof why NS shouldve been canon, but with this is mind it makes it all the more ridiculous.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

Youre joking, right? Sooo, Sakura is based off of Kishimoto's wife, and Naruto is basically Kishi's self insert, and NaruSaku isn't canon despite this????

I mean, it doesn't have to be the only proof why NS shouldve been canon, but with this is mind it makes it all the more ridiculous.

I'm not sure she's based on his wife, but he basically has admitted she is similar to her and also denied that Hinata is like his wife.

 

The interview asked after the ending if Hinata was a lot like his wife, and Kishi said naaah my wife is a strong character. So he said Hinata wasn't strong and also not his wife in the same breath. :kukuku:


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:20 PM

Isn't it a part of the interview that he told his wife that she was the model for Hinata and she didn't believe him, and then he laughed about that because it was such a terrible lie?

 

Like the background is his wife getting angry that NS didn't happen, so he tells her that but it's not convincing at all.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:21 PM

Isn't it a part of the interview that he told his wife that she was the model for Hinata and she didn't believe him, and then he laughed about that because it was such a terrible lie?

 

Yeah, and how the Missus also had been rooting for NaruSaku, only to be tricked.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:23 PM

 

Yeah, and how the Missus also had been rooting for NaruSaku, only to be tricked.

Naruto really is like him, I guess. Naruto ignored what his mother wanted for him, Kishi ignored what his wife wanted.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:23 PM

Interviewer: "Whoah. So how did you handle that, especially with your wife?"

Kishimoto: "I tried to defuse the situation by assuring my wife that SHE was actually the model for Hinata. (laughs)"

Interviewer: "As you were saying that, I thought, I wonder if your family life was more like Hinata and Naruto's family or Sasuke and Sakura's? (everyone laughs)"

Kishimoto: "Well it might not actually be like either. My wife is quite strong as well, she's a strong character."

Interviewer: "Oh, so kind of like Sakura!"

Kishimoto: "I think my wife might secretly realize that Hinata wasn't really the model for her (laughs)"

That's the part

Edited by winter-serenade, 19 November 2017 - 08:26 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:27 PM

I hope it's not like either. That would be awful.

 

There is definitely the implication there that he had based Sakura on his wife originally. Otherwise bringing up Hinata as the model doesn't really make sense. Like why would he immediately go there if he hadn't already thought about basing a character on her? Then he says Hinata wasn't really the model for her. This implies, again, that someone was. Obvious choice being Sakura.

 

He just doesn't explicitly state it because NS not happening looks even worse in that case.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:34 PM

I hope it's not like either. That would be awful.

 

There is definitely the implication there that he had based Sakura on his wife originally. Otherwise bringing up Hinata as the model doesn't really make sense. Like why would he immediately go there if he hadn't already thought about basing a character on her? Then he says Hinata wasn't really the model for her. This implies, again, that someone was. Obvious choice being Sakura.

 

He just doesn't explicitly state it because NS not happening looks even worse in that case.

 

Yeah. And he's the kind of creator just trying to make it seem like he is in the right, even when he knows he ****** up big time like he has, even when he begins to contradict himself to an extent



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 08:56 PM

There's something that's giving me some curiosity. Someone said that Masashi did an interview or some sort of drawing for unimportant Hinata when The Last came out on a Playboy magazine. Had anyone came across that?


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:01 PM

There's something that's giving me some curiosity. Someone said that Masashi did an interview or some sort of drawing for unimportant Hinata when The Last came out on a Playboy magazine. Had anyone came across that?


Thats strange. I havent heard anything about that before.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:16 PM

Wasn't it the guy who writes one piece that compared Kishi's wife to Sakura too?

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:34 PM

If they act logically, the ending can't happen. Sasuke as portrayed wouldn't have taken Sakura away from Naruto, or taken Sakura at all. Sakura as portrayed would never have done that to Naruto regardless of how she felt about Sasuke, nor would she be willing to be with Sasuke after all that kitten. Naruto as portrayed wouldn't have given up and switched to Hinata so easily, or at all.

 

They had to become crazy so that the pairing fans could get what they wanted.

And it's why anti-enders choose to believe that it's all the Infinite Tsukuyomi having succeeded.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 09:52 PM

Wasn't it the guy who writes one piece that compared Kishi's wife to Sakura too?

 

Yeah Oda said that back at Kishi's wedding in 2003 I think.


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 10:10 PM

Thats strange. I havent heard anything about that before.

 

It was mentioned when we were bombarded with the ending and The Last's leaks. Someone mentioned Playboy and I was like, "Huh? He did an interview in an adult magazine for the franchise?!"


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Posted 19 November 2017 - 11:57 PM

the forehead thing couldn't have been an coincidence, I could tell Kishi is just dying to reveal the truth to Sakura-Chan, or else this scene wouldn't have been created: 

 

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she clearly wants a kiss to the forehead, to which Sasuke declines and walks away. Sarada is confused as to why her "husband" would decline it, and Sakura-Chan even wonders why he's going to make her wait longer, which tells me personally, the bench scene is in her mind. This is the perfect way to reveal the truth. 


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Posted 20 November 2017 - 12:11 AM

I just read that as she wanted the dumbass finger poke. She's blushing in the same way as she was the first time, anyway.

 

It's quite pathetic to be begging for a gesture that simultaneously belittles you and distances you from the one giving it.

 

Truly the height of romance.

 

If you're right, then Kishi is history's greatest monster, though. I don't want to believe that he would actually find a way to be more cruel to Sakura than he is already being.


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