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#4681 Dreamer

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:27 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Mar 22 2010, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ignore it. Many of them misinterpret the scenes (they only care about if Sakura is with a scene with Sasuke, same goes with Hinata with Naruto together). And I sometimes believe that do any of them had took reading comprehension/critical thinking?


laugh.gif I agree with ya, they always find a excuse to keep the fire from completely going out in their pairing FC.

Edited by Uzumakikage, 23 March 2010 - 04:28 AM.


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 04:35 AM

wut sakura has parents?

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 07:54 AM

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One nice thing I can say about SS fans is that they actually are able to appreciate Sakura as a character, and are less likely to bash her. I feel like that is one thing we NS fans have in common with SS fans, which is nice. Strangely, though, I don't feel NH fans care all that much about Naruto. I sort of feel their love for Hinata specifically over-shadows their love for Naruto's character. Hm.


I am not sure of how much SS fans care about Sakura. I have seen some of them telling if she doesn't hook up with Sasuke, they would rather seeing her dead. But I agree with your assessment about NH fans. They are always telling they must get together because Hinata is so good and nice and sweet and she has suffered so much (unlike people like Gaara, Itachi, Naruto, Neji, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Anko...) that she deserves a happy end, and Naruto is dumb and gay for not noticing her (and now a heartless, ingrateful bastard).

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Nope. For example in Alice 19th I found Kyo crashingly dull a character (Yuu Watase's most uninteresting male lead ever) but I knew Alice and Kyo would end up together, even though I though Alice and Frey had much more exciting connection. Alice had a Hinata like crush on Kyo, Kyo liked Alice but it just wasn't terribly interesting, Kyo was rather a flat character, Frey was much more exciting and he liked Alice and Alice was a bit attracted to him to. I know manga plotlines though and knew it would be Alice and Kyo. So I just enjoyed the scenes with Frey and otherwise just read the manga to see where the plot went. If I like a pairing that will never happen (another example- Snape and Lilly in the Harry Potter series, I enjoy the occasional moments in flashbacks where we saw them together, and read lots of Snape/Lilly fanfic. Rowling did say Lilly did love Snape back, and they would have probably got together if Snape hadn't gotten so involved with the Death Eaters. So the fanfic just goes down that what if route. But I'm not throwing fits about who Rowling paired characters with, I knew it was going to be Ron/Hermione from the first book. I never cared much for Ron or not much for Harry either. I liked Hermoine and probably would have found it more satisfying if she ended up with neither, and became a strong, happy and independent witch. But I'm not throwing a fit about that either.)


Hmm... You know, when I started reading Urusei Yatsura, I believed Ataru and Shinobu would get together. Geez, there even was an early chapter set in the future where they were married and raising their son. But then I heard Ataru and Lum got together and I was shocked (and I heard way later Takahashi's editor had forced her to change the main couple because Ataru/Lum was more popular. If that is true, it explains why Ataru and Lum always felt forced to me). But I didn't make a fuss of it and tried enjoying scenes where Ataru and Shinobu interacted and appreciating Ataru and Lum's relationship how it was (even if it never completely clicked for me).

A similar story happened when I was reading Ranma. I liked Ryouga/Ukyo pairing. But when Akari got introduced I knew right away Ryoga and Ukyo would never get together (and unless I'm mistaken, truly we would never see them sharing pannel time again). I resigned myself to it and I don't threw a fit either.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:51 AM

I don't know how saying SS fans care about Sakura is a good thing. Hm, Sasuke tried to kill her like three times; he's a maniac and they think that Sakura should be with him? That's freakin' crazy. And NH fans really are, Ugh. Sorry I just had to say it. They think there queen Hinata should get Naruto because she's cute and sweet? Way to pay attention. When did they ever talk or have interaction; when did Naruto seem to care? He doesn't like her, get over it. This is why I left the VIZ forum. Everyday they have a new "Who will Hinata...?" "Well will Hinata...?" Oh my god. I'm going to put the definition of Secondary character in one of those threads and see the hundreds of neg reps I get :]

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:05 AM

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Hm, Sasuke tried to kill her like three times


Four times, actually.

Albeit I guess you might argue maybe he wasn't intending cutting her to pieces but merely hurting her when he lunged at her brandishing Kusanagi; or he wasn't DELIBERATELY targetting HER when he was going to use Kirin.

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Everyday they have a new "Who will Hinata...?" "Well will Hinata...?" Oh my god. I'm going to put the definition of Secondary character in one of those threads and see the hundreds of neg reps I get :]


Good Lord.

"Who will Hinata...?" My rebuttal is: WHO CARES? She is a secondary character. A VERY secondary character. I find amazing, baffling and mind-boggling they care more about a secondary character -whose relevance stopped the minute Naruto defeated Neji and utterly vanished the minute she confessed- than about the main plotlines.

I understand they may like her. But for my life I can't understand why they are so obsessed with her or why they behave like if her past and hypotetical future actions were a great deal warrants being argued and speculated on.

I don't see Ino/TenTen fans opening hundreds of threads wondering who will she end up with or if she will fight Madara. I don't see Aoba/Gemma/Raido/Kotetsu/Izumo fans wondering if they will participate in the final battle. I don't see Hana fans wondering if she will become Inuzuka's clanhead. I don't see Yuugao Uzuki fans wondering if she will finally take revenge on Baki for murdering her lover, Hayate Gekko.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Mar 23 2010, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Four times, actually.

Albeit I guess you might argue maybe he wasn't intending cutting her to pieces but merely hurting her when he lunged at her brandishing Kusanagi; or he wasn't DELIBERATELY targetting HER when he was going to use Kirin.



Good Lord.

"Who will Hinata...?" My rebuttal is: WHO CARES? She is a secondary character. A VERY secondary character. I find amazing, baffling and mind-boggling they care more about a secondary character -whose relevance stopped the minute Naruto defeated Neji and utterly vanished the minute she confessed- than about the main plotlines.

I understand they may like her. But for my life I can't understand why they are so obsessed with her or why they behave like if her past and hypotetical future actions were a great deal warrants being argued and speculated on.

I don't see Ino/TenTen fans opening hundreds of threads wondering who will she end up with or if she will fight Madara. I don't see Aoba/Gemma/Raido/Kotetsu/Izumo fans wondering if they will participate in the final battle. I don't see Hana fans wondering if she will become Inuzuka's clanhead. I don't see Yuugao Uzuki fans wondering if she will finally take revenge on Baki for murdering her lover, Hayate Gekko.


Well that's why Kishi in the last interview said" Hinata Hinata I wonder if their fans are so loud?" even the author of Naruto doesn't understand why they over rate Hinata so much. On another topic most S/S fans don't respect Sakura as a character they only see her as a baby making machine. They think just because Sasuke said in the first chapters that he was going to restore his clan and Sakura having a silly fan girl crush on him they believe she's going to be with him with the sole purpose to give him endless Uchiha babies. I find this excuse worst than the excuse of N/H fans that Hinata deserves Naruto because she's sweet and kind. dry.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 23 March 2010 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:39 PM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Mar 23 2010, 07:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't see Ino/TenTen fans opening hundreds of threads wondering who will she end up with or if she will fight Madara.


Maybe I should LOL J/K

but anyway back on topic for a sec LOL

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:40 PM

Guys, I dont know if we alread discussed about this
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.....As you have notice, an anti NS made it up sleep.gif

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:48 PM

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Guys, I dont know if we alread discussed about this
about


.....As you have notice, an anti NS made it up sleep.gif


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 02:53 PM

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Guys, I dont know if we alread discussed about this
about


.....As you have notice, an anti NS made it up sleep.gif

It just had to be one of them 111189.gif

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Naruto: NaruSaku, (Fem)NaruSaku, NaruSasu (as brothers, rivals, best friends), ShikaTema, NaruInoSaku, NaruHarem (excluding Hinata), MinaKushi, ChouIno, YahiKona
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Naruto: Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Konan, Gaara, Kushina, Kakashi, Ino
Fairy Tail: Erza, Happy, Natsu, Grey, Lucy, Gajeel
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:14 PM

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Unfortunately in the Sakura to Naruto vrs Sakura to Sasuke debate. the above has become the standard.

anything Sakura does towards Sasuke is seen as ZOMG twuwub, and of course anything Sakura does to naruto is either something a teamate or sister would do. its entirely laughable how blatant they are being about it too.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 05:42 PM

I agree about the NH thing, I see so many times about how Hinata "deserves" Naruto ... nevermind his feelings at all!

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Mar 23 2010, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
double standard 
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1.any code or set of principles containing different provisions for one group of people than for another,


Unfortunately in the Sakura to Naruto vrs Sakura to Sasuke debate. the above has become the standard.

anything Sakura does towards Sasuke is seen as ZOMG twuwub, and of course anything Sakura does to naruto is either something a teamate or sister would do. its entirely laughable how blatant they are being about it too.
Now that you said that I read this essay. It goes to show how ignorant some fandoms are.


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Naruto: NaruSaku, (Fem)NaruSaku, NaruSasu (as brothers, rivals, best friends), ShikaTema, NaruInoSaku, NaruHarem (excluding Hinata), MinaKushi, ChouIno, YahiKona
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Naruto: Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Konan, Gaara, Kushina, Kakashi, Ino
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Bleach: IchiHime

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Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
Bleach: Orihime, Chad

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Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

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Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
Bleach: Aizen, Yamamoto

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Mar 23 2010, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now that you said that I read this essay. It goes to show how ignorant some fandoms are.



Oh wow! 111189.gif
Naruto takes Hinata's feelings more seriously?! Oh.. My god. When has he ever even taken Hinata seriously?! He never talks to her; he barely noticed her. If they think Naruto can move onto Hinata, why not think Sakura can move on from Sasuke?HAH! I would love to see them answer that!

It's funny, really funny how they think. Like I said SECONDARY meaning not point to the Main plot-line, nothing, zip, nadda.
Wow...

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:19 PM

The funny thing I liked was the fact that they bashed sai in 458-459 and then they praise him in 474
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Fairy Tail: NatsuLucy, NatsuErza :D
Bleach: IchiRukia

Characters:
Naruto: Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Konan, Gaara, Kushina, Kakashi, Ino
Fairy Tail: Erza, Happy, Natsu, Grey, Lucy, Gajeel
Bleach: Ichigo, Nell, Kenpachi, Rukia, Karin, Kon

Misc.: Linkin Park, Green Day


In between Anti and Pro: --Click here to view--

Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
Bleach: Orihime, Chad

Misc.: Yuri :D



Pairings:
Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

Characters:
Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
Bleach: Aizen, Yamamoto

Misc.:Twilight, Yaoi, Fillers, Sakura bashing

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 09:26 PM

You know a funny thing is that everytime they see Hinata/Naruto or Sasuke/Sakura they think "omg! There gonna like, get togetha! Wooahh!" pff. Yeah, right. They see everything as a moment and whenever we see Naruto/Sakura together we don't freak out because there usually together. Other pairings aren't. Development ;D

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Mar 23 2010, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know a funny thing is that everytime they see Hinata/Naruto or Sasuke/Sakura they think "omg! There gonna like, get togetha! Wooahh!" pff. Yeah, right. They see everything as a moment and whenever we see Naruto/Sakura together we don't freak out because there usually together. Other pairings aren't. Development ;D


Well Shippu-chan they believe the two times Sasuke tried to kill Sakura (483 and 484) they see it as S/S romantic moment. 111189.gif
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:31 PM

ugh, that essay just made me /facepalm

I've never seen another pairing fandom be that ridiculous :|

Edited by pharix, 23 March 2010 - 10:32 PM.


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:48 PM

Oh god, I just read a NH theory saying this. I just can't believe how they misinterpret the scenes.
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Bleach: IchiRukia

Characters:
Naruto: Naruto, Sakura, Shikamaru, Konan, Gaara, Kushina, Kakashi, Ino
Fairy Tail: Erza, Happy, Natsu, Grey, Lucy, Gajeel
Bleach: Ichigo, Nell, Kenpachi, Rukia, Karin, Kon

Misc.: Linkin Park, Green Day


In between Anti and Pro: --Click here to view--

Pairings:
Naruto: NaruSakuHina, SakuHina, NaruTayu, KibaHina, SakuKarin
Bleach: IchiHime

Characters:
Naruto: Hinata, Tayuya, Karin, Itachi
Bleach: Orihime, Chad

Misc.: Yuri :D



Pairings:
Naruto: SasuSaku, NaruHina, NaruSasu (as gay lovers), KakaSaku, SasuAnyone, ShikaIno

Characters:
Naruto: Sasuke, Madara, "fanon" Hinata (not to be confused with canon Hinata), Kabuto
Bleach: Aizen, Yamamoto

Misc.:Twilight, Yaoi, Fillers, Sakura bashing

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:55 PM

Oh... My... God!!! Holy crap!!! I just got episodes from iTunes and HOLY kitten! Tobi sounds like Mickey mouse no freakin' lie!!! 111189.gif

Anyways...

Yes NH always have theories. I lol'd at one about calling it a fairytale or something.




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