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[TheFirstEvil100]

It's funny you say that, but we have been wrong before. We never thought Kishimoto would make NH and SS canon and we were wrong. We thought Kishimoto would never make Naruto into a scumbag...and we were wrong.

I still don't quite get why, if NH and SS was the intention, why he made them so miserable? Why say that there is no reason why SS is together and that they could get a divorce if the intention was to put them together in the first place?

Why would you purposely make the cast so miserable and unhappy?

 

If HInata loved Naruto since the beginning...then she deserves him.

However....
If Naruto loves Sakura since the beginning, he doesn't deserve her

If Toneri loved Hinata since the beginning, he doesn't deserve her.

lol oh that is true man I just don't think Kishi has the brain power to do something like that after all cause, its like Kishi thinks he knows what he is talking about, which is not true we all know he kittened up a lot in his story, and right now is just trying to save face and make out he planned this all along.

 

He just does not care as long as the Uchiha are liked.

[DrK]

lol oh that is true man I just don't think Kishi has the brain power to do something like that after all cause, its like Kishi thinks he knows what he is talking about, which is not true we all know he kittened up a lot in his story, and right now is just trying to save face and make out he planned this all along.

 

He just does not care as long as the Uchiha are liked.

But people see this favoritism for the Uchiha and it makes some people hate the Uchiha. Or, well, mostly just Sasuke himself, since he's the only Uchiha left. He should have just given Sasuke his own manga, rather than cannibalizing "Naruto" to give things to Sasuke.

[TheFirstEvil100]

But people see this favoritism for the Uchiha and it makes some people hate the Uchiha. Or, well, mostly just Sasuke himself, since he's the only Uchiha left. He should have just given Sasuke his own manga, rather than cannibalizing "Naruto" to give things to Sasuke.

True I think out of all the Uchiha Sasuke was one that Kishi liked the most hence why Sasuke never suffered for what he had done I many how many lives were lost thanks to Sasuke, how many times did Sasuke backstab someone cause they were getting in his way cause he said so. Way too many times if you ask me DrK.

 

But as I said we can see all too well that Kishi loved the Uchiha after all remember that they reason they lose their minds is cause they love too much, which is still BS and to make us think and try in Kishi own messed up way to make us feel sorry for them, again that is something that I will never do I am happy that they are almost all gone just wish Sasuke died then the stupid power hungry clan would all be dead and then forgotten.

[DrK]

True I think out of all the Uchiha Sasuke was one that Kishi liked the most hence why Sasuke never suffered for what he had done I many how many lives were lost thanks to Sasuke, how many times did Sasuke backstab someone cause they were getting in his way cause he said so. Way too many times if you ask me DrK.

 

But as I said we can see all too well that Kishi loved the Uchiha after all remember that they reason they lose their minds is cause they love too much, which is still BS and to make us think and try in Kishi own messed up way to make us feel sorry for them, again that is something that I will never do I am happy that they are almost all gone just wish Sasuke died then the stupid power hungry clan would all be dead and then forgotten.

If Sasuke died at the end, a lot of people who hate him now would like him. He would have become a tragic character. Like if he used the last of his power to release the IT or revive people and then died of chakra exhaustion. A lot of people who hate him would have a hard time doing so. Instead Sakura mindlessly heals him without even verifying that he isn't a threat anymore and he lives, going on to not really do anything significant except make both Sakura and Naruto miserable. Great job, Kishimoto.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

If Sasuke died at the end, a lot of people who hate him now would like him. He would have become a tragic character. Like if he used the last of his power to release the IT or revive people and then died of chakra exhaustion. A lot of people who hate him would have a hard time doing so. Instead Sakura mindlessly heals him without even verifying that he isn't a threat anymore and he lives, going on to not really do anything significant except make both Sakura and Naruto miserable. Great job, Kishimoto.

 

That's what I feel too, since in the end, I always disliked how Sasuke was way too mentally unstable, especially after Itachi died, and just did all he did, not to avenge his brother's death and his actions, BUT just to make himself feel better since he knew his life was a lie, and that since he couldn't beat Itachi and truly surpass him, he'd destroy everything else to make himself feel better. Even if it wasn't said, it's so heavily implied, like how when Naruto berated him for wanting to destroy the Kages, and how Itachi was nothing but a memory to him at the time, showing it wasn't for him, it was to make himself feel better, all because Sasuke couldn't handle what Itachi stood for.

 

 

But as I said we can see all too well that Kishi loved the Uchiha after all remember that they reason they lose their minds is cause they love too much, which is still BS and to make us think and try in Kishi own messed up way to make us feel sorry for them, again that is something that I will never do I am happy that they are almost all gone just wish Sasuke died then the stupid power hungry clan would all be dead and then forgotten.

 

Yeah, I hated that crappy excuse to make us feel sorry for the Uchiha either, Evil. Honestly, for my fanfic, I'd make that most of them who are corrupt became it because of their egotistical lust for power due to what the Sharingan does, which is why I also hated that Madara was made to seem sympathetic when he was just bat-kitten crazy in the long run! I also would make it that Itachi had been forced to execute the massacre, most likely by Danzo using Kotoamatsukami to force him to do something, but he barely struggled to get through it, and how he wanted Sasuke to kill him deep down as penance for his weakness.

[VanitasDS76491]

Can anyone help me I heard from evil 100 that some members of tfs are narusaku fans if anyone can tell me which ones are that would be helpful?

[Gravenimage]

Off topic don't see anyone replying to Analyzer looks like everyone finally decided to ignore her.

[VanitasDS76491]

Off topic don't see anyone replying to Analyzer looks like everyone finally decided to ignore her.

Good but some still response to her.

[James S Cassidy]

If Sasuke died at the end, a lot of people who hate him now would like him. He would have become a tragic character. Like if he used the last of his power to release the IT or revive people and then died of chakra exhaustion. A lot of people who hate him would have a hard time doing so. Instead Sakura mindlessly heals him without even verifying that he isn't a threat anymore and he lives, going on to not really do anything significant except make both Sakura and Naruto miserable. Great job, Kishimoto

 

"But but....Sasuke said he was sorry"

*eye roll*


By the way, I noticed something about NH pro-enders. They always talk about how Naruto deserved Hinata and such, but the only scene they ever bring up is the Pein Arc confession and say how Sakura never did anything like that for Naruto. They ignore the fact that Naruto ignores it, they ignore the fact that one could argue the Heaven and Earth bridge scene is exactly like the Pein Arc confession, they ignore everything....all because Hinata confessed and this is what makes her more "deserving" of Naruto.

This is just sad to me. That's all they got.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 November 2017 - 05:15 AM.

[DrK]

 

"But but....Sasuke said he was sorry"

*eye roll*

Even if Sasuke got on all fours with his face in the dirt, it wouldn't be enough to justify being his housewife. If Sakura was the one going out investigating Kaguya while Sasuke stayed home and took care of Sarada, then MAYBE. But it's a big maybe. Naruto would still have been a better option for her obviously.

 

Also I'm pretty sure she started healing him before he even said that. God, it's so pathetic. Sasuke could have stabbed her in the gut as he was lying there bleeding and she'd still be healing him instead of herself.

Edited by DrK, 15 November 2017 - 05:15 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Even if Sasuke got on all fours with his face in the dirt, it wouldn't be enough to justify being his housewife. If Sakura was the one going out investigating Kaguya while Sasuke stayed home and took care of Sarada, then MAYBE. But it's a big maybe. Naruto would still have been a better option for her obviously.

 

Also I'm pretty sure she started healing him before he even said that. God, it's so pathetic. Sasuke could have stabbed her in the gut as he was lying there bleeding and she'd still be healing him instead of herself.

 

Yeah, for all we know, he was lying. After all, when Sasuke apologized to Karin, she could tell he was telling the truth since she's a sensor type, and she did tell Obito that she can tell people are lying due to how their chakra is when they do lie, which is why I could see that Sasuke was lying his ass off in the end really.

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 15 November 2017 - 05:36 AM.

[DrK]

 

Yeah, for all we know, he was lying. After all, when Sasuke apologized to Karin, she could tell he was telling the truth since she's a sensor type, and she did tell Obito that she can tell people are lying due to how their chakra is when they do lie, which is why I could see that Sasuke was lying his ass off in the end really.

It's just so disrespectful towards Sakura as a character. It's one thing to love Sasuke. It's another thing if you have no spine and can't stand up to him. Kishimoto simply DID NOT CARE about her at all. She needed to get out of the way so that Naruto could be with Hinata. So Naruto's feelings for Sakura were deleted, Sakura's growing love and indeed most of her care for Naruto was deleted, and her self-respect was deleted. The confession was one thing. It was bad, but she wanted to say that she does still have feelings of love towards him and she feels bad that she could never help him. That could have been fine. Throwing away your own life(potentially), the fate of the world, and your pride as a human being for someone who doesn't give a crap about you and who just got done hurting you AGAIN isn't fine.

 

And it makes the CPR scene seem so kittening bizarre in retrospect. Did Kishimoto not understand how powerful the symbolism of that was? That is the best argument that he wasn't fully on board with the ending and that it was something people wanted him to write. He could have had Hinata do it or have Sakura stabilize his life in some other way that didn't signify that Naruto's heart literally beats for her.

Edited by DrK, 15 November 2017 - 05:51 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Even if Sasuke got on all fours with his face in the dirt, it wouldn't be enough to justify being his housewife. If Sakura was the one going out investigating Kaguya while Sasuke stayed home and took care of Sarada, then MAYBE. But it's a big maybe. Naruto would still have been a better option for her obviously.

 

Also I'm pretty sure she started healing him before he even said that. God, it's so pathetic. Sasuke could have stabbed her in the gut as he was lying there bleeding and she'd still be healing him instead of herself.

I know...I was just doing a mock argument from a pro-ender.

[DrK]

I know...I was just doing a mock argument from a pro-ender.

Well, they're the good guys. They are the ones defending Kishimoto, while we just spend all day hating on him. We are being selfish with our twisted desires for these characters to be happy or to have the standards that normal people do when it comes to relationships. People like <name redacted> are the true heroes who see the best in the characters.

Edited by DrK, 15 November 2017 - 06:04 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

Well, they're the good guys. They are the ones defending Kishimoto, while we just spend all day hating on him. We are being selfish with our twisted desires for these characters to be happy or to have the standards that normal people do when it comes to relationships. People like <name redacted> are the true heroes who see the best in the characters.

lmao. Actually, I got into an argument with a pro-ender and to supposedly "win" all they said was "Man, you are so triggered. It's just an anime." This coming from the same fandom that said that NH had to become canon or else....the same fandom that complaing that Hinata became flatchested in Boruto the manga...

 

To me, when they start going into the personal insults it means I have won the argument.

 

[DrK]

lmao. Actually, I got into an argument with a pro-ender and to supposedly "win" all they said was "Man, you are so triggered. It's just an anime." This coming from the same fandom that said that NH had to become canon or else....the same fandom that complaing that Hinata became flatchested in Boruto the manga...

 

To me, when they start going into the personal insults it means I have won the argument.

If <redacted> replies to your posts, you get 1 point for every exclamation point they use. Use of formatting like underline or italics is 2 points. A word that they write in all CAPITALS is 3 points.  If they completely ignore a vital part of your argument, that's 5 points. After you amass 10 points, you win and can stop clicking on their replies.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

lmao. Actually, I got into an argument with a pro-ender and to supposedly "win" all they said was "Man, you are so triggered. It's just an anime." This coming from the same fandom that said that NH had to become canon or else....the same fandom that complaing that Hinata became flatchested in Boruto the manga...

 

To me, when they start going into the personal insults it means I have won the argument.

 

 

Reminds me of cheaters in online games who try to accuse you of it when they don't cheat anymore, or being all annoyed when you call them out for their BS.

[VanitasDS76491]

It's just so disrespectful towards Sakura as a character. It's one thing to love Sasuke. It's another thing if you have no spine and can't stand up to him. Kishimoto simply DID NOT CARE about her at all. She needed to get out of the way so that Naruto could be with Hinata. So Naruto's feelings for Sakura were deleted, Sakura's growing love and indeed most of her care for Naruto was deleted, and her self-respect was deleted. The confession was one thing. It was bad, but she wanted to say that she does still have feelings of love towards him and she feels bad that she could never help him. That could have been fine. Throwing away your own life(potentially), the fate of the world, and your pride as a human being for someone who doesn't give a crap about you and who just got done hurting you AGAIN isn't fine.
 
And it makes the CPR scene seem so kittening bizarre in retrospect. Did Kishimoto not understand how powerful the symbolism of that was? That is the best argument that he wasn't fully on board with the ending and that it was something people wanted him to write. He could have had Hinata do it or have Sakura stabilize his life in some other way that didn't signify that Naruto's heart literally beats for her.

Hinata was to busy beating beat by a rock and having face in the dirt and asking her the ghost of her cousin she got killed to watch over him.

[AHK]

You're ignoring the "buzzing" because its inconvenient to acknowledge that your points have major flaws or are just not true. 
 
I'm not posting for you, though, I'm just making sure that for guest readers, they get the clarification they need on the truth.
 
Also please stop damaging mics after saying things that aren't true.
 
Kishimoto Backtracked! (Evidence required)
 
Naruto is avoiding his family! (Evidence proves you wrong,)
 
I.E., anyone that is suggesting any hidden message or blatant message of misery or unhappiness with family or the like is blatantly wrong. 
 
Kishimoto did what he intended and wanted to do, because he said so. Anyone saying otherwise runs in contradiction to his words, and the work of art.
 
I.E., conspiracy-level theorizing. 
 
I'd drop a mic for my as usual point on rebuttal, but I'm too cool for that stuff.

Seriously, drop the high and mighty, holier than thou charade. You don’t give a rats ass about “guest readers” or whoever reads these these threads. You’re not here to be a white-knight for poor guests that come here unawares that we’re trying to snare in our unending quest to spread misinformation about the series so that other people will hate it too.

You’re here because you’re uncomfortable that a place exists which is regarded as a haven for people to go in which they express ideas that are different from your own, and you come here to harass people who express those ideas with poorly thought out points and blatant untruths, all while pretending that you’re more intelligent than the people you’re talking about.

This site doesn’t nearly have the reach for you to actually try and justify your presence here by saying that you care about the two guests we might get potentially being misinformed by opinions held by people here. Spare the bs.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Did he let other people write the story for him anywhere along those lines and proclaimed it canon or did he write it all himself?

Nope, he did both, story and art. And it's what you call, credibility.