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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well, my point was that the "Sasuke is a tsundere" argument mostly comes down to speculation. That's also why I personally wouldn't be so quick to label anyone who uses it as a troll.

Because he hasnt shown any personalities that cna label him as tsundere, it's the same of calling sakura a b.i.t.c.h when she didnt have any relationships, or calling only sakura as useless while if we use their arguments all female characters of this shounen can be fit as useless wich is shown to be wrong.

[Chucky-kun]

Random thought, after beating madara and finishing the war, what if while Sakura is healing naruto's wounds, the lover nin reappears and says something along the lines of, is this the guy you love? Because he sure is a great man. This turns out to be the wake up call for Sakura.

[Transformers03]

Random thought, after beating madara and finishing the war, what if while Sakura is healing naruto's wounds, the lover nin reappears and says something along the lines of, is this the guy you love? Because he sure is a great man. This turns out to be the wake up call for Sakura.

I won't lie, that thought has also came to my mind. In fact I have probably came up with dozens of different situations that may happen in the story that'll lead to Narusaku. This prediction is actually one of my favorites but it seems to...................fanservicey.

[Chucky-kun]

I won't lie, that thought has also came to my mind. In fact I have probably came up with dozens of different situations that may happen in the story that'll lead to Narusaku. This prediction is actually one of my favorites but it seems to...................fanservicey.

It's just... Introducing the lover nin for such a little time just seems so little for such a character who has a lot of potential.

[Transformers03]

It's just... Introducing the lover nin for such a little time just seems so little for such a character who has a lot of potential.

It's still possible that the Lover Nin may come into play again, but I try not to get my hopes up. I still have about several dozen other theories that may happen, some seem more likely than other though.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Random thought, after beating madara and finishing the war, what if while Sakura is healing naruto's wounds, the lover nin reappears and says something along the lines of, is this the guy you love? Because he sure is a great man. This turns out to be the wake up call for Sakura.

You know, I actually predict this happening. It could happen either during or after the war. There are two scenarios I can see it happening:

1) Naruto and Sakura stand by together as she healed his wounds. Then, lover nin sees her with Naruto and either he says it out loud or says it in his head, "Naruto is the one she loves? Great man indeed!"

2) Your option. It could be like how they did it in Avatar: the Last Airbender. Naruto ends the fight and Sakura watches him as lover nin appears. He says, "Wow. To think, he's the man that you love, huh." She will either go "!" or "Huh?" He then say, "He is no doubt a great man. He must've kept you happy." She then stares at Naruto and gives us the audience a clue that Sakura is now thinking over her feelings for Naruto.

Now I know that these have a slim chance of happening, but it does have a good purpose to bring him back, especially the fact Kishi brought him to test her feelings. We got a negative response for Sasuke. Now, perhaps we can see a positive one, that is Naruto. Always good to predict. Let's wait and see.

[redragon88]

You know, I actually predict this happening. It could happen either during or after the war. There are two scenarios I can see it happening:

1) Naruto and Sakura stand by together as she healed his wounds. Then, lover nin sees her with Naruto and either he says it out loud or says it in his head, "Naruto is the one she loves? Great man indeed!"

2) Your option. It could be like how they did it in Avatar: the Last Airbender. Naruto ends the fight and Sakura watches him as lover nin appears. He says, "Wow. To think, he's the man that you love, huh." She will either go "!" or "Huh?" He then say, "He is no doubt a great man. He must've kept you happy." She then stares at Naruto and gives us the audience a clue that Sakura is now thinking over her feelings for Naruto.

Now I know that these have a slim chance of happening, but it does have a good purpose to bring him back, especially the fact Kishi brought him to test her feelings. We got a negative response for Sasuke. Now, perhaps we can see a positive one, that is Naruto. Always good to predict. Let's wait and see.

I like both scenarios, especially the second one.

Who knows? Maybe the lover nin will play some role in the future. We can hope, right?

I do ask myself why did Kishi chose to make that scene with the lover nin. He could've easily made it so it was just some ninja that was waiting for Sakura to be available so she could check on his wounds. The scene with Sakura thinking about Sasuke was unnecessary since we already knew, thanks to the events of the summit, that she still loved him.

All of the previous just make me think: why? Why did Kishi wanted to bring up her feelings for Sasuke again at that moment if we already knew about them? Why does he make lover nin specifically say that who she loved would only be a great guy? The great guy part always caught my attention since it really doesn't look like some throwaway line that Kishi thought on the fly. I think Kishi specifically wanted to emphasize the fact that Sasuke is indeed not the great guy that someone like Sakura should be loving.

I really believe that that scene, whether it involves once again lover nin or not, will become relevant in the near future in some shape or form. I think Kishi wanted to bring attention to the fact that someone like Sakura should only give her affection to a deserving great guy who could love her the same way she loved him and that such guy is definitely not Sasuke since he always make her sad.

I would also find it sweet if someone (maybe lover nin) commented on how Sakura always looks at Naruto in a different way to everyone else she sees. Something like "Every time you look at Naruto your face becomes happier and gentler". Now that ought to make her blush.

Edited by redragon88, 27 September 2012 - 03:22 PM.

[ultranx]

Hey everyone, I was cleaning my room today and found my November 2009 issue of shonen jump. It has another Naruto relationship chart in it, but this one actually says Naruto loves Sakura and Hinata isn't included at all and the chapter that's with it is the one where Naruto and Pain are talking and the Yahiko, Konan and Nagato flashback happens. It also has the master and apprentice relationships in the chart. I posted a video of it on youtube, I made sure the Naruto loves Sakura part was clear in the video but with all the sunlight in my room I don't know about the other parts so let me know if there's any other parts you want to know. Here's the video:

[Gravenimage]

Hey everyone, I was cleaning my room today and found my November 2009 issue of shonen jump. It has another Naruto relationship chart in it, but this one actually says Naruto loves Sakura and Hinata isn't included at all and the chapter that's with it is the one where Naruto and Pain are talking and the Yahiko, Konan and Nagato flashback happens. It also has the master and apprentice relationships in the chart. I posted a video of it on youtube, I made sure the Naruto loves Sakura part was clear in the video but with all the sunlight in my room I don't know about the other parts so let me know if there's any other parts you want to know. Here's the video:

We already know I remember it was release" after" Hinata's confession around 442 I think.

[ultranx]

We already know I remember it was release" after" Hinata's confession around 442 I think.

Okay then, wasn't sure if you guys knew it actually said Naruto loves Sakura. Still don't get why nh fans brush off this chart.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hey everyone, I was cleaning my room today and found my November 2009 issue of shonen jump. It has another Naruto relationship chart in it, but this one actually says Naruto loves Sakura and Hinata isn't included at all and the chapter that's with it is the one where Naruto and Pain are talking and the Yahiko, Konan and Nagato flashback happens. It also has the master and apprentice relationships in the chart. I posted a video of it on youtube, I made sure the Naruto loves Sakura part was clear in the video but with all the sunlight in my room I don't know about the other parts so let me know if there's any other parts you want to know. Here's the video:

Ah yes, we cover this a long time with the Japanese version. Good to know that it remains the same for USA audience. That said you got to remember about the relationship chart from Databook 3. Naruto don't have any arrows to anyone, rather there are arrows coming from others. That's why people assumed that he dropped his feelings for Sakura. This chart that you presented it is basically saying "Well, here's what Naruto feels." To be honest, it's no surprise that he still loves Sakura. It's only stating the obvious. I must admit, it is rather a slap in the face due to the fact Hinata made a confession yet this chart was released after it. It doesn't help that Sakura hugs Naruto in front of everyone. So yeah, it's a lose situation for NH, but I digress. Sadly, it most likely will happen again in the upcoming chapters.

@redragon88: Couldn't agree more. It is possible for lover nin to reappear again in the later scene. It does ask for a reappearance, because his sentence seems like it needs to be address and Naruto will fit that role. After all, often Naruto and Sakura are mistaken as a couple already. So why not again with lover nin.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Okay then, wasn't sure if you guys knew it actually said Naruto loves Sakura. Still don't get why nh fans brush off this chart.

Here's the answer to that. NaruHina fans like to believe that because Sakura screwed up so majorly during her confession to him in the Land of Iron, they say the " I hate people who lie to themselves " means Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore. According to them, she played with his feelings and hurt him a lot. So this means Naruto will get over Sakura and give Hinata a chance.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Here's the answer to that. NaruHina fans like to believe that because Sakura screwed up so majorly during her confession to him in the Land of Iron, they say the " I hate people who lie to themselves " means Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore. According to them, she played with his feelings and hurt him a lot. So this means Naruto will get over Sakura and give Hinata a chance.

This.

Seriously, if Sasuke almost kills Sakura doesn't change his mind, what makes you think he will now? I am sticking to this word: He will not change ever.

[Transformers03]

Here's the answer to that. NaruHina fans like to believe that because Sakura screwed up so majorly during her confession to him in the Land of Iron, they say the " I hate people who lie to themselves " means Naruto doesn't love Sakura anymore. According to them, she played with his feelings and hurt him a lot. So this means Naruto will get over Sakura and give Hinata a chance.

If that was true, if Kishi was really making it out to seem that that was the end of Narusaku, than why did he drew/wrote in the scene where Naruto saves Sakura bridal style right after? If that was truly the end of that pairing possibility, then why did have Naruto save Sakura? Why did he make him save her in that style, giving off slight romantic implication, when romance is suppose to be done with them?

I know bridal save scen is not that long, but he still wrote/drew that scene for a reason. If there was to be no more romantic implication between Naruto and Sakura, the he wouldn't have made that scene, at least not like that.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If that was true, if Kishi was really making it out to seem that that was the end of Narusaku, than why did he drew/wrote in the scene where Naruto saves Sakura bridal style right after? If that was truly the end of that pairing possibility, then why did have Naruto save Sakura? Why did he make him save her in that style, giving off slight romantic implication, when romance is suppose to be done with them?

I know bridal save scen is not that long, but he still wrote/drew that scene for a reason. If there was to be no more romantic implication between Naruto and Sakura, the he wouldn't have made that scene, at least not like that.

Good point.

Plus it took almost complete two pages. That bridal scene was an awesome entrance by Naruto and saves the one who people claimed that he doesn't love her anymore. There's always another way to save her, but instead, Kishi went with that. I always felt the irony in that scene. You should know already. It doesn't help the anti that Kishi himself did another rescue bridal style in the movie. Sure, it's a movie but it's from Kishi himself. Again, could have totally avoid that, but no, Kishi is making Naruto the great man to be with, especially for Sakura, who just got rescue in that style once or twice, if you count the movie. Only Sakura that Naruto would do for. If it did happen again during the part when Naruto uses his clones to save others and save them (Sakura and Hinata) in the bridal style, then I would dismiss this argument.

[PhenixElite]

Good point.

Plus it took almost complete two pages. That bridal scene was an awesome entrance by Naruto and saves the one who people claimed that he doesn't love her anymore. There's always another way to save her, but instead, Kishi went with that. I always felt the irony in that scene. You should know already. It doesn't help the anti that Kishi himself did another rescue bridal style in the movie. Sure, it's a movie but it's from Kishi himself. Again, could have totally avoid that, but no, Kishi is making Naruto the great man to be with, especially for Sakura, who just got rescue in that style once or twice, if you count the movie. Only Sakura that Naruto would do for. If it did happen again during the part when Naruto uses his clones to save others and save them (Sakura and Hinata) in the bridal style, then I would dismiss this argument.

After the latest chapter its already totally obvious. Just to think about NH or SS now is retarded.
If kishi would make another pairing he would make naruto suffer same like obito (cant imagine him doing that, for what reason?)
And Of course The NH fanbase tries to turn every little moment who doesnt mean anything into a NH moment, cause there arent many after all. If we think that the whole begin of part 2 till the the end of the pain arc was full of NS moments, theres no need worring about 1 weak NH moment.

We got the big chapter with yamato telling sakura abiut her feelings(often forgotten), the hug, sakura screaming for naruto (after pain destroyed konoha), sakuras sad face (while thinking that hinata loves naruto), the confession (still think parts of it are true), naruto saving sakura in bridal style, The lover nin scene showing sakura overthinking her feelings for sasuke, the movie, the parallels, jiraya telling naruto to finish what he couldnt(also winning the hearth of the girl you love) and soon i also think theres something happening with the lover nin again and naruto telling hinata that he loves someone else.

Not to forget that its a shounen manga and we all know how they end.
All we have to do is wait till this flahbacks are over and the alliance arrives.

[Namikaze Sakura]

Did they really think that Naruto would just lose all what he felt for Sakura all these years after that incident most especially when he began to understand her motives/what she was really trying to do then?

He didn't even give up on Sasuke, who was completely swallowed by darkness and vengeance, doing killing spree; then give up on Sakura who remained and stayed by his side for that blatant 'lie' they claimed? (In which I don't really consider as a complete lie at all)

Naruto's not that shallow.

They've been misunderstanding Naruto's character all along, maybe? Or perhaps, that was the kind of Naruto they want for their own fantasy land.

[candycane-chan]

/\ this
just becuase he doen't think about her 24/7 doesn't meen that he's not in love with her anymore
and The confession never brought the pairing down like the other fandoms though an he got an explanation when she left to track sasuke about her reasons and how she didn't want him to get hurt
and yeah ..the only way for them to imagine Nh happening is if naruto was that shallow

[T XD]

Don't bother that much.
They'll always stick to those arguments, and i even see more bashing after NS happens for real and when the manga ends.

[Gravenimage]

Don't bother that much.
They'll always stick to those arguments, and i even see more bashing after NS happens for real and when the manga ends.

They're still angry fans bashing to how Ranma 1/2 ended with Ranma marrying Akane the heroine tsundere of the series a lot of people hated Akane and most were Ranma/Shampoo fans. The same with Inuyasha they were very upset with Inuyasha marrying Kagome especially the Inuyasha/Kikyo fans.