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[Nostradamus]

 

What? No Talk-no-jutsu?

To save his lover, he skips Talk-No-Jutsu.

[VanitasDS76491]

I mean, it's supposed to be like the ending of the first one. The main character realizes that he screwed up by not understanding the situation properly and screams.
 
In the first one they learn that Jigsaw was the guy they thought was a corpse the whole time and he stands up and leaves them in the room to die. So in the story he realizes Sasuke was never really there, he was just a white Zetsu, and now he's destroyed Konoha.
 
It would take a little more effort than I want to use to write a sequel, but probably it would be pretty depressing. Like Naruto just probably killed Sakura's parents because he thinks she loves Sasuke. And for the other Rookie 9 members it's even worse, because for them there's no reason at all they would want to pick Sasuke over him. They'd all beat the kitten out of him.

 
That'd be something to see and hinata hating naruto for getting her family killed, ya so the consequences of what naruto did.
Which saw movies should I watch aside from the first one and cause I've heard the twist at the end of the first movie is some great. Where did jigsaw get a white zetsu?
 

What? No Talk-no-jutsu?

You really think jigsaw would listen and no way Naruto could do that in 60 seconds.

[DrK]

I think that in the universe of that story, Jigsaw would have to be Kisame or something, so he could get one by being a member of Akatsuki. He would need to be close to Itachi to learn that much about Sasuke.

[DrK]

Why did Naruto care so much about Sasuke? Wouldn't all the things about Sasuke be equally as if not more true for Sakura? They both treated him like he was an annoying pest at first.

 

Maybe it was a good thing that Kishimoto didn't really try to show the friendship between Naruto and Sasuke? Because there's no way he could have ever shown enough to make Naruto's dedication justified. This guy nearly got him and his friends killed several times, and he ended up ruining his life, stealing the woman he loved from him, and turning him into a brainless idiot who thinks love=ramen before leaving the village again anyway!

 

Naruto is so kittening insane.

Edited by DrK, 29 October 2017 - 08:51 PM.

[Yyubie]

Why did Naruto care so much about Sasuke? Wouldn't all the things about Sasuke be equally as if not more true for Sakura? They both treated him like he was an annoying pest at first.

 

Maybe it was a good thing that Kishimoto didn't really try to show the friendship between Naruto and Sasuke? Because there's no way he could have ever shown enough to make Naruto's dedication justified. This guy nearly got him and his friends killed several times, and he ended up ruining his life, stealing the woman he loved from him, and turning him into a brainless idiot who thinks love=ramen before leaving the village again anyway!

 

Naruto is so kittening insane.

It's more personal thing , because i heard Kishi have bad relationship with his brother and he wants to express it with his manga and make up with him, and second is because bromance is popular in japan, you can clearly see how sometimes Kishi try to sexualized Sasuke , just look at his outfit during the early shippuden , exposing Sasuke chest like that .... disgusting.

Edited by Yyubie, 29 October 2017 - 08:59 PM.

[DrK]

It's more personal thing , because i heard Kishi have bad relationship with his brother and he wants to express it with his manga and make up with him, and second is because bromance is popular in japan, you can clearly see how sometimes Kishi try to sexualized Sasuke , just look at his outfit during the early shippuden , exposing Sasuke chest like that .... disgusting.

I have heard a theory that his clothes are actually just so that he can use the winged curse seal form easier. Like he'd just let his top fall around his waist and then use it. That doesn't make it any less sexualized though.

 

And yeah if I was Kishi's brother I would be weirded out.

Edited by DrK, 29 October 2017 - 09:11 PM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Why did Naruto care so much about Sasuke? Wouldn't all the things about Sasuke be equally as if not more true for Sakura? They both treated him like he was an annoying pest at first.

 

Maybe it was a good thing that Kishimoto didn't really try to show the friendship between Naruto and Sasuke? Because there's no way he could have ever shown enough to make Naruto's dedication justified. This guy nearly got him and his friends killed several times, and he ended up ruining his life, stealing the woman he loved from him, and turning him into a brainless idiot who thinks love=ramen before leaving the village again anyway!

 

Naruto is so kittening insane.

 

I've always suspected it to have been a result of trying to capitalize on Sasuke's popularity.

[DrK]

It ended up destroying all the characters including Sasuke.

 

Sasuke marries a woman who his best friend loved, someone he never even liked, and who never understood him or was willing to be with him if he was anything other than a loyal servant of Konoha, something he absolutely hated the idea of being, yet became in the end. When Karin did understand him and wanted to be at his side no matter what.

 

People always talk about how sad it is for Naruto and Sakura, and it is, but Karin should have gotten at least something. She's just alone I guess? She obviously never gave Suigetsu a chance. SK wasn't as misanthropic as SS. He did try to kill her, but at least it was to kill someone else, unlike the case with Sakura where he tried to kill Sakura with the goal of killing Sakura.

Edited by DrK, 29 October 2017 - 10:36 PM.

[Yyubie]

It ended up destroying all the characters including Sasuke.

 

Sasuke marries a woman who his best friend loved, someone he never even liked, and who never understood him or was willing to be with him if he was anything other than a loyal servant of Konoha, something he absolutely hated the idea of being, yet became in the end. When Karin did understand him and wanted to be at his side no matter what.

Well he erase all of the kitten he has done with one extremely very simple and beautiful word :

[DrK]

He makes it up to them by being a good husband and very close friend who is always there for them in the future.

[VanitasDS76491]

I think that in the universe of that story, Jigsaw would have to be Kisame or something, so he could get one by being a member of Akatsuki. He would need to be close to Itachi to learn that much about Sasuke.

Kisame is not that smart to pull off something like that maybe have someone who studied naruto and sasuke and caught a white zetsu and kept him locked up like Andy has chucky'said head in cult of chucky. Also kisame was long dead the time time story takes place or is it before naruto meets his Mom? That'd be an interesting reunion hey mom I just destroyed the leaf village over selfish reasons. The elder toad misread that prochery.

[DrK]

Yeah, it's before the killer bee stuff. It says that in the intro paragraph.

[VanitasDS76491]

Yeah, it's before the killer bee stuff. It says that in the intro paragraph.

Ok Ya kisame still doesn't seem smart enough for this maybe have it be actual jigsaw doing this.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Here's another thing about my nephew, every time I see a drawing of Shinachiku, he reminds me of my nephew.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 
That'd be something to see and hinata hating naruto for getting her family killed, ya so the consequences of what naruto did.
Which saw movies should I watch aside from the first one and cause I've heard the twist at the end of the first movie is some great. Where did jigsaw get a white zetsu?
  You really think jigsaw would listen and no way Naruto could do that in 60 seconds.

From what I see, the first three seem to be said to be the better ones, though I do find the fifth one to be interesting too, and the twist at the end of the "last" one is cool too.

[AHK]

Actually Sakura says after his first sorry, "Sorry, for what?" Then Sasuke says, "For everything", and Sakura says "You better be." 

 

You're still digging a trench in that prison isn't a punishment. That's not a very valid argument. A valid argument would be he wasn't punished enough, which is where I am trying to get you to switch to. And no argument was put forward that his journey was a punishment at any point in this discussion. 

 

Excusing Sasuke would be saying that he was innocent. He's not, he did awful and terrible things. But I'm not going to diminish the good he did either, the saving of the world is creditable to Team 7, regardless of their personal motivations. -Even- if doing so made it easier for Sasuke to rule, it does not invalidate that he saved it. By all means say he did it for selfish reasons, but he still helped save it, and that's not an easy weight to just throw out to balance when determining a pardon, particularly when the victim has sufficiently learned the lesson, or narrative intent shows as much, anyway.

 

You have captured the meaning of Sardonic, but not humor, I am afraid. 

She entirely brushed it off lmao She was never going to even blame him for anything. She never cared in the slightest about anything he had done. 

 

Because it isn't a punishment, in that world. It was completely passed over in the manga because it never mattered. They never punished him for what he did. The bold is irrelevant, because the journey was supposed to serve as the punishment. That's what Kishi put forth, and it's completely and utterly embarrassing that at the end of the day, Sasuke never actually paid for being a mass murdering lunatic. 

 

No, it is not. Saving the world is credited to Naruto, with help from Kakashi and Sakura. Sasuke wasn't doing any good. Maybe you missed the entire part where he declared that he was going to enslave the world and slaughter anyone that disagreed with him. That is the only reason he bothered with Madara and Kaguya, and the same reason he was intent on killing Naruto; because they were in his way. He wasn't saving the world, he was taking advantage of the opportunity to dominate it himself. All you're doing is giving Sasuke a pass by insisting otherwise, especially with that ridiculous part about "particularly when the victim has sufficiently learned the lesson". First of all, at what point during the war was Sasuke ever a victim? The fact that you so readily claim him a "victim" yet so easy brush off the people he helped kill and the people he was going to kill or enslave is a blatant example of just what was wrong with Kishi and his writing and how he handled Sasuke.

 

You continue to absolutely have no idea of what you are talking about. First I didn't know the definition of sardonic, yet now I don't understand humor? You fail continually to grasp the idea that you can tell a joke and be completely serious about what you're saying. Have you never watched those late-night comedy shows where they often offer political commentary? Or SNL? Kishimoto was "joking" in the same way they were, telling a joke but making a serious point. It isn't rocket science. 

[DrK]

Sakura's tsundere personality didn't really apply to Sasuke. Ridiculously she showed more resistance to Sasuke in part 1 when she's supposed to be a fan girl than in part 2, at least verbally. She did fight him in Orochimaru's base, but next time she sees him the fact that Naruto rejected her confession makes her love him even more and she can't bear to hurt him.

 

Hilariously I've seen people use Shikamaru's father's line about "even the toughest woman is gentle to the man she loves" to support her being with Sasuke. When that line was a reference to Shikamaru's mother, who treated Shikaku in a tsundere fashion, not the way Sakura is to Sasuke. And that line was probably meant to foreshadow NS to begin with. Other characters in the story commented on Sakura's gentleness towards Naruto. Her "gentleness", that is to say submissiveness, towards Sasuke was never talked about at all. Her love for Sasuke was glossed over or even cheered as a good thing when it was destroying her as a character and as a person.

Edited by DrK, 30 October 2017 - 04:01 AM.

[T XD]

I think it's possible that Kishimoto might reveal things in the future that he didn't want to talk about in his earlier interviews after the ending of the manga.

 

His latest interviews show him spilling drops from the truth behind making Hinata with Naruto, SS, The Last and some plot-holes left in the story. There are authors who confess later on in their lives. That is if Kishimoto ever had interviews again in the future.

Edited by T XD, 31 October 2017 - 12:39 PM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I think it's possible that Kishimoto might reveal things in the future that he didn't want to talk about in his earlier interviews after the ending of the manga.

 

His latest interviews show him spilling drops from the truth behind making Hinata with Naruto, SS, The Last and some plot holes left in he story. There are authors who confess later on in their lives. That is if Kishimoto ever had interviews again in the future.

 

Possible, but by that time. No one will really care.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Possible, but by that time. No one will really care.

Well to be far we won't care but the NH and SS fans shall be very pissed if Kishi did do this.