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#4621 Gravenimage

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 06:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
prove himself a good person?
i think u dont get it, it's not a matter of karma it's shounen, or he will die or he will become a wanderer or he will live in the village, proving himself he's clearly not going to do this.

and second if sasuke comes back to the village well and alive, sakura might want to choose him so it's not 100% certain if he backs to the village sakura might choose naruto, what i think that dont let sasuke come back to the village is because karin,suigetsu and juugo i really doubt if he will abandon those guys, those characters orbitate towards sasuke.


Sakura might choose Sasuke??? Where does this come from? She already chose Naruto. facepalm.png
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 24 2012, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sakura might choose Sasuke??? Where does this come from? She already chose Naruto. facepalm.png

She might choose Sasuke...if Kishimoto loses his sanity/common sense. Other than that, I highly doubt she would also.

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#4623 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:46 PM

For all who replied...

She didnt chose him already, she still thinks about sasuke, she choses him if it's for naruto's sake wich he denied.
Second what makes her feelings for sasuke dropping is the fact he's evil if he becames good again it reamins unpredictable,i agree with the fact that it destroy her character but again it still have a chance.

about kishimoto losing his sanity/common sense he did a lot of things in this manga that makes me thinks this way.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 September 2012 - 02:47 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For all who replied...

She didnt chose him already, she still thinks about sasuke, she choses him if it's for naruto's sake wich he denied.
Second what makes her feelings for sasuke dropping is the fact he's evil if he becames good again it reamins unpredictable,i agree with the fact that it destroy her character but again it still have a chance.

about kishimoto losing his sanity/common sense he did a lot of things in this manga that makes me thinks this way.


Also if he turns good.
Dont forget that he nearly killed her 2 TIMES and also nearly killed his teammate and wanted sakura to finish her.
Could you get together with some one who wanted to kill you twice???

Also lets not forget, he has no feelings for her or anybody and this wont change cause hes not the character who cares for girls.(im not saying hes gay XD)

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 02:58 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 24 2012, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Also if he turns good.
Dont forget that he nearly killed her 2 TIMES and also nearly killed his teammate and wanted sakura to finish her.
Could you get together with some one who wanted to kill you twice???

Also lets not forget, he has no feelings for her or anybody and this wont change cause hes not the character who cares for girls.(im not saying hes gay XD)


I understand what u are saying and what bothers me is the fact that she still thinks about him romantically even if it's to shown him into a bad spotlight.

she choses naruto not because he deeply loves him but because of naruto, because sasuke is evil and she had to face reality, and naruto denied it.
it's naruto's fault for her to still think about sasuke, it was better if they have a conversation or naruto demands on explanation for what she tried to do there.
but no he just time skiped like if nothing happened, i know that it's a shounen but naruto deserved an explanation about it, kishimoto put him to sleep.
i wanted to naruto tells her the truth and what he really feels, because sakura knows his feelings it's weird for him to pretend that nothing happened.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 September 2012 - 02:59 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i prefer him to die, he did a lot of bad things and it's better for the sharingan does not exist anymore.


Problem is he never really killed a good guy in my eyes danzo was not really a good guy. But ofcourse he did trye too kill alot of the good guys:) sakura raikage and alot of the minor characters:P man i gotta say he is being played well by obito

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For all who replied...

She didnt chose him already, she still thinks about sasuke, she choses him if it's for naruto's sake wich he denied.
Second what makes her feelings for sasuke dropping is the fact he's evil if he becames good again it reamins unpredictable,i agree with the fact that it destroy her character but again it still have a chance.

about kishimoto losing his sanity/common sense he did a lot of things in this manga that makes me thinks this way.

It's not when she did for Naruto's sake. Her feelings are already towards Naruto. She can't think about Sasuke this way anymore, simple as that, which why if he became good, she won't do this. Otherwise, it won't make sense.

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand what u are saying and what bothers me is the fact that she still thinks about him romantically even if it's to shown him into a bad spotlight.

she choses naruto not because he deeply loves him but because of naruto, because sasuke is evil and she had to face reality, and naruto denied it.
it's naruto's fault for her to still think about sasuke, it was better if they have a conversation or naruto demands on explanation for what she tried to do there.
but no he just time skiped like if nothing happened, i know that it's a shounen but naruto deserved an explanation about it, kishimoto put him to sleep.
i wanted to naruto tells her the truth and what he really feels, because sakura knows his feelings it's weird for him to pretend that nothing happened.

It's all part of the drama in the manga, nothing more. The writer leave it to the reader to interpret it however he/she likes till he makes everything clear.
It's like there's complications before the enlightenment.
Naruto will figure out everything but not now and Sasuke will still a bit hunts Sakura's mind.

Edited by T XD, 24 September 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Sep 24 2012, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not when she did for Naruto's sake. Her feelings are already towards Naruto. She can't think about Sasuke this way anymore, simple as that, which why if he became good, she won't do this. Otherwise, it won't make sense.

she is confuse about her feelings she made that confession because she was under pressure to accept reality, she might think i'll say that ilove naruto and i'll learn to really love him, it's different because she didnt recognized those feelings yet she is still in love with sasuke.
she did it for naruto's sake, if she have feelings for naruto or no this is another story.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand what u are saying and what bothers me is the fact that she still thinks about him romantically even if it's to shown him into a bad spotlight.

she choses naruto not because he deeply loves him but because of naruto, because sasuke is evil and she had to face reality, and naruto denied it.
it's naruto's fault for her to still think about sasuke, it was better if they have a conversation or naruto demands on explanation for what she tried to do there.
but no he just time skiped like if nothing happened, i know that it's a shounen but naruto deserved an explanation about it, kishimoto put him to sleep.
i wanted to naruto tells her the truth and what he really feels, because sakura knows his feelings it's weird for him to pretend that nothing happened.


Ok! Its true that she has romantic feelings for sasuke but there are not much left of them.
Iam also not thinking about the current standpoint of her feelings, im thinking about the future.
Im 200% sure that her leftover feelings for sasuke are going to vanish but it needs time.

And in this time she will also realize her true feelings for naruto.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she is confuse about her feelings she made that confession because she was under pressure to accept reality, she might think i'll say that ilove naruto and i'll learn to really love him, it's different because she didnt recognized those feelings yet she is still in love with sasuke.
she did it for naruto's sake, if she have feelings for naruto or no this is another story.


Nice post thats the way i see it now tbh

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
she is confuse about her feelings she made that confession because she was under pressure to accept reality, she might think i'll say that ilove naruto and i'll learn to really love him, it's different because she didnt recognized those feelings yet she is still in love with sasuke.
she did it for naruto's sake, if she have feelings for naruto or no this is another story.

I wasn't talking about the confession and i said that in the beginning of my last post. I was talking in general about her feelings for Naruto which she won't think about being with Sasuke. Now she's on the way of surpassing those leftovers feelings for Sasuke till the realization hits her about how she truly feels for Naruto.

Edited by T XD, 24 September 2012 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:03 PM

Agree to disagree this is just another shounen manga where the hero gets the heroine tsundere, only differentce Kishi has extended the development quite longer than any shounen pairing. His extending it and he wants to continue misleading us from the real pairing, and trolling us but in the end when all is said and done it will remain NS.

Edited by Gravenimage, 24 September 2012 - 04:03 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 24 2012, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agree to disagree this is just another shounen manga where the hero gets the heroine tsundere, only differentce Kishi has extended the development quite longer than any shounen pairing. His extending it and he wants to continue misleading us from the real pairing, and trolling us but in the end when all is said and done it will remain NS.


Yeah thats it everyone is going to far on the current situation of the manga.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Sep 24 2012, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Agree to disagree this is just another shounen manga where the hero gets the heroine tsundere, only differentce Kishi has extended the development quite longer than any shounen pairing. His extending it and he wants to continue misleading us from the real pairing, and trolling us but in the end when all is said and done it will remain NS.


i never said in any moment that ns wont happen i just pointed out that if sasuke comes back to the village alive and well NS wont be 100% sure.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:50 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 24 2012, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i never said in any moment that ns wont happen i just pointed out that if sasuke comes back to the village alive and well NS wont be 100% sure.


NS was never 100% sure. For me its 96% sure (4% NH, 0% SS) but i dont think it would change anything if sasuke comes back alive or not.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:06 PM

I like the idea of him being a wanderer. Never crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, it does seem like something that would satisfy everyone. Naruto can be sure of Sakura's feelings if she decides to stay with him in the village, or roam around with Sasuke.

Still, I don't know if Naruto would see that as him fulfilling his promise to bring him back. It's already been said that the village will not welcome him back after everything. Now I really don't know how this is going to work out.. huh.gif

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (Lady_duckish @ Sep 24 2012, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like the idea of him being a wanderer. Never crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, it does seem like something that would satisfy everyone. Naruto can be sure of Sakura's feelings if she decides to stay with him in the village, or roam around with Sasuke.

Still, I don't know if Naruto would see that as him fulfilling his promise to bring him back. It's already been said that the village will not welcome him back after everything. Now I really don't know how this is going to work out.. huh.gif

We have to wait for the future chapters as to know what Naruto will think and do about Sasuke, and how the battle with Sasuke will be.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 24 2012, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NS was never 100% sure. For me its 96% sure (4% NH, 0% SS) but i dont think it would change anything if sasuke comes back alive or not.

Even if you'll not agree with this, I insist that Sasuke will be togheter with Karin.
This pairing just show a great message in the manga : Peace.

An union between an Uchiha and an Uzumaki, cousins of the Senju, this will be the great proof that they can live together like the Rikudou always wanted.
That's why I believe in Sasuke's returns. His return will have no effect to the NS, in my point of view, if it has to be, than it would be in a positif way.
This will proove to the other fandom that Sakura's feelings for Naruto are real, that he's not a second choice...



A last thing I have to say, it's about Sai's flashback about Naruto's confession.
In my translated version, and also in the anime translation, Naruto did'nt say that he will not confess until he keeps his promise.
No, and that didn't sound like that. What he say was this :

Sai : Did you tell her how you feel ?
Naruto : ...
Naruto : How could I ?
Naruto : I'm a guy who coudn't even keep my promise to her...
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This has nothing to do with getting Sasuke back or not. Naruto is showing no confidence in himself, you can tell just by the way he speaks.
He just doesn't understand what real love is in my opinion, thinking just about what you can do for the one you love. That reminds me a little of Sakura in the Yamato's speech.
And Sakura did just make the same reflexion after that :


Sakura : He's foolish enough to like "someone like me".
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She never said that he was an idiot or something like this. She just says that he is in a way because she thinks she has always been an horrible person towards him because she caused him the most "pain". She thinks she doesn't deserve his love...

The translated scan just did us make unbelievable interpratations.
Naruto would never say something lik "hey, when I get Sasuke back, I'm gonna confess to Sakura".
And Sakura woukd never say that Naruto is a fool without explanation.


Sakura and Naruto just doesn't really understand what real love is, that it doesn't matter what you do for each other, the only thing that's important, are your feelings.
And that's what Yamato tried to say to a Sakura who doesn't even realise her love for Naruto, in my point of view.
Naruto did talk with Kushina, and learned a lot about what true love is. Maybe he is more confident right now.


Anyway, I'm waiting for Sakura's intervention. Will be quiet interesting with Hinata there...

Edited by Sojobo, 24 September 2012 - 07:25 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:19 PM

SasuKarin has some nice implications along with it, but one negative implication trumps them all. I don't even need to say what that implication is, do I?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Sep 24 2012, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SasuKarin has some nice implications along with it, but one negative implication trumps them all. I don't even need to say what that implication is, do I?

I think i got the message you're trying to tell. Plus, in order for SK to happen, they have to undergo some major developments, at least showing great respect towards Karin. But till now, Sasuke doesn't seem that he'll be with someone.

@Sojobo: Naruto didn't imply that he'll confess to Sakura when he get Sasuke back but there's something that is still stucked in his mind and that he'll have to make up his mind about the promise that he holds for her till now which, from what i believe, there will be an event or a moment that will occur and make him think about Sasuke and the promise or something close to this.

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