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[Paptala]

I do believe some people do get the idea of parallel wrong too. Also, thank you for pointing about other anime/manga that disagree with this argument "Too close to be lovers". Anyway, we can only hope after the flashback. It's still interesting, don't get me wrong, but I would like to see the upcoming for NaruSaku, which I am certain that it will come.

Same for me - the flashbacks are interesting to a point, but I wish that Kishi could find a way to put more information in his chapters, and thus get through the undeniably necessary background information quicker.

Naruto is definitely easier to read in chunks than week by week, that's for sure.

So let me ask you this. I know that parallel isn't the main argument for NaruSaku for it has so many developments on its own. That said which parallel do you see it as the most closest one?

I don't think that any one parallel specifically helps NaruSaku more than the others. All three relationships have aspects that are similar to NaruSaku:

ObiRin - loser in love with the medical girl who is in love with the cool genius
JiraTsu - loser in love with the medical girl who always turned him down
MinaKushi - girl who is contemptuous of the boy due to misunderstanding him, and then eventually falls in love with him after he saves her, changes her, and is the first person to compliment the one thing she felt the most insecure about

That being said, they all have their differences from NaruSaku as well:

ObiRin - Rin was never violent with or contemptuous of Obito; she never knew Obito liked her so she never turned him down
JiraTsu - Tsunade was never in love with the cold genius of their team; she was in love with a nice guy (Dan) until he died
MinaKushi - Kushina was never in love with anyone other than Minato

Which is why I think the parallels only work if you use them together - each relationship has specific traits that NaruSaku has in their relationship, and it's only taking them all together that you get the most complete picture - if that makes any sense at all

When it comes to surpassing the old generation, I think the term means more in ability, power level, and maturity. While you could say that Naruto must get the girl because those before him did not, I don't think that's what were supposed to take from that statement. Its not a matter of finally winning the heart of your love interest, but succeeding the legacy of those who could not (bringing world peace, saving a friend, etc)

Not saying romance couldn't be included in that, but overall its less significant than Naruto's other goals. If he fails to win Sakura, I don't think he'll be looked at as a failure in manga or outside of it. lol

Only not winning over the heart of the woman you love was clearly listed along side of those goals in Jiraiya's regrets - saving the world, saving a teacher, saving a student, winning the heart of the girl.

And then Kishi made Obito's unrequited love for Rin one of his biggest motivators in changing his world view.

We have been shown multiple times how much Sakura having romantic feelings for Sasuke hurts him - in the hospital right after Sasuke woke up from his coma and Sakura hugged him, when Naruto made the POAL, when Sakura was crying after Karui asked her what Sasuke meant to her, and then again during Sai's flashback and explanation to Sakura in 457 through 459.

Naruto's romantic feelings for Sakura affect Naruto a lot. Naruto hasn't been proclaiming his desire to still be Hokage all that much in the second half of the story, yet no one doubts that he still wants it - because he said that he couldn't achieve that goal before he saves Sasuke. And he gave the exact same qualifier for confessing his feelings for Sakura.

Saving Sasuke is the measuring stick that Naruto is using for these important things that he wants in life - his dream of becoming Hokage and pursing Sakura romantically.

So not only is Kishimoto making failure in romance a big issue with the earlier generations that Naruto is directly and clearly paralleled to, we have also seen that winning Sakura's heart is important to Naruto as a character on his own.

Thus, I do think it will come off as depressing if Naruto is not able to succeed in winning Sakura's heart, and I do think that it will go against that theme of the newer generation surpassing the old.

Just noticed this. --Click here to view--

Not sure if it's planned but I think it foreshadows quite well.

There was a whole thread on this topic :-)

http://www.narusaku....l=foreshadowing

But yes, I do think its foreshadowing definitely.

Edited by Paptala, 22 September 2012 - 06:03 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Same for me - the flashbacks are interesting to a point, but I wish that Kishi could find a way to put more information in his chapters, and thus get through the undeniably necessary background information quicker.

Naruto is definitely easier to read in chunks than week by week, that's for sure.

I don't think that any one parallel specifically helps NaruSaku more than the others. All three relationships have aspects that are similar to NaruSaku:

ObiRin - loser in love with the medical girl who is in love with the cool genius
JiraTsu - loser in love with the medical girl who always turned him down
MinaKushi - girl who is contemptuous of the boy due to misunderstanding him, and then eventually falls in love with him after he saves her, changes her, and is the first person to compliment the one thing she felt the most insecure about

That being said, they all have their differences from NaruSaku as well:

ObiRin - Rin was never violent with or contemptuous of Obito; she never knew Obito liked her so she never turned him down
JiraTsu - Tsunade was never in love with the cold genius of their team; she was in love with a nice guy (Dan) until he died
MinaKushi - Kushina was never in love with anyone other than Minato

Which is why I think the parallels only work if you use them together - each relationship has specific traits that NaruSaku has in their relationship, and it's only taking them all together that you get the most complete picture - if that makes any sense at all

Only not winning over the heart of the woman you love was clearly listed along side of those goals in Jiraiya's regrets - saving the world, saving a teacher, saving a student, winning the heart of the girl.

And then Kishi made Obito's unrequited love for Rin one of his biggest motivators in changing his world view.

We have been shown multiple times how much Sakura having romantic feelings for Sasuke hurts him - in the hospital right after Sasuke woke up from his coma and Sakura hugged him, when Naruto made the POAL, when Sakura was crying after Karui asked her what Sasuke meant to her, and then again during Sai's flashback and explanation to Sakura in 457 through 459.

Naruto's romantic feelings for Sakura affect Naruto a lot. Naruto hasn't been proclaiming his desire to still be Hokage all that much in the second half of the story, yet no one doubts that he still wants it - because he said that he couldn't achieve that goal before he saves Sasuke. And he gave the exact same qualifier for confessing his feelings for Sakura.

Saving Sasuke is the measuring stick that Naruto is using for these important things that he wants in life - his dream of becoming Hokage and pursing Sakura romantically.

So not only is Kishimoto making failure in romance a big issue with the earlier generations that Naruto is directly and clearly paralleled to, we have also seen that winning Sakura's heart is important to Naruto as a character on his own.

Thus, I do think it will come off as depressing if Naruto is not able to succeed in winning Sakura's heart, and I do think that it will go against that theme of the newer generation surpassing the old.

There was a whole thread on this topic :-)

http://www.narusaku....l=foreshadowing

But yes, I do think its foreshadowing definitely.

Wow. Just wow. This calls for standing ovation. Let's give around the applause, ladies and gentlemen!

I was going to post on my answer, but you really hit it where it effects the most. The parallel answer is a great answer and glad you pointed out that they are all mixed in with NaruSaku. It's ironic because these stuff makes Naruto to win over. You get the hot temper, which guys would be scare of and you get another guy who she loves, which is challenging for a guy. That said the reward for NaruSaku will be grand not just for us, but everyone. It will go down as one of the best outcome in anime/manga, at least to me and I watch/read a lot of them.

I agree about the failure aspect. As I written before, Naruto was in no doubt depressed when he saw her hugging Sasuke, feeling like perhaps he can't win her love. But no, he didn't stop there. He can't let go because he's not quitter. What he's doing now is what a real man would do: make her happy. Naruto is no longer a kid in that aspect. Well, got to know a woman's heart clearer, but he can work on that. That's why I am behind him 100% to win her love. I'm pretty sure we are not alone on it as well.

[PhenixElite]

Since theres no one posting anything again i will start again.

So when do you think naruto`s going to confess to sakura. Maybe during the war??
I personally think its going to be before or after narutos fight with saskue but maybe its also a totally different moment we dont know yet.

Yeah i just hope there are some NS moments till beginning of 2013 since we havent got any for more then 1 year!

@Paptala and NaruSaku4life3g: Great posts!!!

[Arachnia]

Since theres no one posting anything again i will start again.

So when do you think naruto`s going to confess to sakura. Maybe during the war??
I personally think its going to be before or after narutos fight with saskue but maybe its also a totally different moment we dont know yet.

Yeah i just hope there are some NS moments till beginning of 2013 since we havent got any for more then 1 year!

@Paptala and NaruSaku4life3g: Great posts!!!

I wanna see RTN but its far away and kinda offtopic in a way:D

[Lady_duckish]

After he "saves" Sasuke. He's made it clear that he doesn't think he deserves the opportunity to confess until after he brings Sasuke back to the village. Not to say we shouldn't get a few moments between those two while we wait , but I doubt we'd get a full on confession until after he achieves that goal.

Edited by Lady_duckish, 23 September 2012 - 08:41 PM.

[T XD]

Since theres no one posting anything again i will start again.

So when do you think naruto`s going to confess to sakura. Maybe during the war??
I personally think its going to be before or after narutos fight with saskue but maybe its also a totally different moment we dont know yet.

Yeah i just hope there are some NS moments till beginning of 2013 since we havent got any for more then 1 year!

@Paptala and NaruSaku4life3g: Great posts!!!

It depends on how Kishi wants to show it and it relates to Sakura's feelings at the same moment.

It could be during the war or sometime after the war before the battle with Sasuke and by this to make Sakura thinks more about her love for Naruto.
Then again, it could be after the battle with Sasuke which Sakura had already have her realization that she really loves Naruto cause it's the most critical time to make her realize though, still, she could realize whenever if she didn't yet after this battle.
But there's even that when Naruto is confessing, Sakura realizes that she really loves him.

I think it will be after the battle with Sasuke or during the battle with Sasuke and of course we'll see NS moments in between.

After he "saves" Sasuke. He's made it clear that he doesn't think he deserves the opportunity to confess until after he brings Sasuke back to the village. Not to say we shouldn't get a few moments between those two while we wait , but I doubt we'd get a full on confession until after he achieves that goal.

Yea but there's a big possibility that Sasuke will die in the fight against Naruto. That's why it depends on how Kishi wants to show this confession.

Edited by T XD, 24 September 2012 - 08:36 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Since theres no one posting anything again i will start again.

So when do you think naruto`s going to confess to sakura. Maybe during the war??
I personally think its going to be before or after narutos fight with saskue but maybe its also a totally different moment we dont know yet.

Yeah i just hope there are some NS moments till beginning of 2013 since we havent got any for more then 1 year!

@Paptala and NaruSaku4life3g: Great posts!!!

Thank you for the compliment.

To answer your question, Naruto will confess to Sakura in the end, which it is after bringing Sasuke back. Naruto made it clear that he won't tell her how he feels until the time is right, which is fulfilling the promise. I realized that Sasuke is the most challenging obstacle that Naruto must face in order for his dreams to become a reality. He wants to be the Hokage, but he declared that he will not become one if he doesn't save Sasuke. If he can save Sasuke, everything will be open. Naruto at this state feels like he's not worthy for Sakura because of that promise. Does it mean he gives up? Hell no. It only means that his love life is on hold until everything is settled. As of now, he will protect her.

We will still get NS moments before the finale (Naruto's confession) by addressing Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Sakura may enter the realization of her feelings right before the final battle starts. Sakura must realize her true feelings before the end. We already have a bad thought on Sasuke by her. Now, we need to know what's her take on Naruto. It's most likely that they will talk to each other and from that, she can finally learn. Much like part 1, when Naruto made the promise of the lifetime, she came to realization that Naruto is the man who always understands her the most and helps her the most. Now, this could be a new step for her. Her next realization will revolve around Naruto. Kishi wrote Sakura in part 1 as a misunderstood girl. When part 1 was near at the end, Sakura realized the truth about Naruto. Now in part 2, it's about her realizing her bonds with Naruto, whether if it's a good friendship or beyond that. Time will tell.

Off-topic: Slow day, eh?

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 24 September 2012 - 05:20 AM.

[Lady_duckish]

It depends on how Kishi wants to show it and it relates to Sakura's feelings at the same moment.

It could be during the war or sometime after the war before the battle with Sasuke and by this to make Sakura thinks more about her love for Naruto.
Then again, it could be after the battle with Sasuke which Sakura had already have her realization that she really loves Naruto cause it's the most critical time to make her realize though, still, she could realize whenever if she didn't yet after this battle.
But there's even that when Naruto is confessing, Sakura realizes that she really loves him.

I think it will be after the battle with Sasuke or during the battle with Sasuke and of course we'll see NS moments in between.


Yea but there's a big possibility that Sasuke will die in tes fight against Naruto. That's why it depends on how Kishi wants to show this confession.

Honestly, I think he will die soon after his redemption. Nothing else seems to fit. I just cant imagine him coming back to the village and living a relatively normal life, nor do I see Naruto being ok with him rotting in some sort of top security cell in the village while he lives a happy full life.

Yeah its cliche as hell, but nothing else seems to fit. I imagine him drawing his last breath with Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi watching over him, and letting him know they forgive him . All of this after he does the whole talk thing with Naruto and commits some noble deed that will probably mean saving Naruto's life.

As for the confession, I just dont see Naruto being comfortable with confessing or accepting Sakura's confession until he brings Sasuke back. If Naruto fails to bring him back, I think it would come off looking like a failure which would make this story feel incomplete. Yet, if Sasuke gets to go home like nothing happened it would be too damn unrealistic for me to swallow.

I think all of this will happen towards the very end (like last 10-15 chapters) of the Manga. Makes sense, after Naruto achieves all of his goals the story is over. Maybe we will get the confession and then an epilogue of Naruto remembering Sasuke and staring out at his (Naruto) face on the Hokage monument, while Sakura walks up with a cute spikey pink haired blue eyed baby boy on her hip

[Weltall]

Honestly, I think he will die soon after his redemption. Nothing else seems to fit. I just cant imagine him coming back to the village and living a relatively normal life, nor do I see Naruto being ok with him rotting in some sort of top security cell in the village while he lives a happy full life.

Yeah its cliche as hell, but nothing else seems to fit. I imagine him drawing his last breath with Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi watching over him, and letting him know they forgive him . All of this after he does the whole talk thing with Naruto and commits some noble deed that will probably mean saving Naruto's life.

As for the confession, I just dont see Naruto being comfortable with confessing or accepting Sakura's confession until he brings Sasuke back. If Naruto fails to bring him back, I think it would come off looking like a failure which would make this story feel incomplete. Yet, if Sasuke gets to go home like nothing happened it would be too damn unrealistic for me to swallow.

I think all of this will happen towards the very end (like last 10-15 chapters) of the Manga. Makes sense, after Naruto achieves all of his goals the story is over. Maybe we will get the confession and then an epilogue of Naruto remembering Sasuke and staring out at his (Naruto) face on the Hokage monument, while Sakura walks up with a cute spikey pink haired blue eyed baby boy on her hip

Sasuke won't die, that doesn't mean he will come back to Konoha, he will become a wanderer or something like that but he won't die that's for sure. For Narusaku to happen without any ambiguity Sasuke needs to live ayway otherwise people would always wonder if Sakura choose Naruto because Sasuke is dead, she has to choose him over Sasuke not because Sasuke is no more.

Edited by Weltall, 24 September 2012 - 06:33 AM.

[Quinny52]

And to add to Weltall's post, Sasuke surviving (not that I'm saying I think he'll come out of it unscathed) and going into exile (either being ordered by the Alliance or self-imposed) is the most likely outcome now, to satisfy as many of the fans on either side as possible and still keep to the story's core themes.

But to add my thoughts to the whole 'Sasuke dying = Naruto failing vs Sasuke living = return to Konoha' debate that's been going on recently, it doesn't have to be one or the other. It doesn't matter anymore whether Sasuke returns to Konoha or not. The whole Kage summit arc served to open Naruto's eyes to the reality of the Sasuke situation (along with other people in his life, i.e Sakura). That dealing with Sasuke was no longer a domestic, Konoha-only incident, it had moved on to include all 5 nations, and as Shikamaru put it - Naruto and the others had only been given the time up until then to deal with Sasuke because of Tsunade's leniency. If it were any other rogue-nin Konoha would've had them killed. But the arc showed something else as well - that Sasuke's actions had destroyed any chance of him coming back. With Sasuke now set on killing everyone in Konoha, he's brought the relationship between the Uchiha and Konoha to a point of no return, it cannot be repaired. If Naruto saves him, Konoha will not welcome him back, and likewise Sasuke will never forgive them (though it was more the Elder's doing) for ostracising and later wiping out his family. They would not be able to co-exist with that kind of bad blood, no matter how hard Naruto might try to patch things over. So if Sasuke does live to see this series out, then I feel it would be best for everyone involved if Sasuke and Konoha went their separate ways, permanantly.

Edited by Quinny52, 24 September 2012 - 07:16 AM.

[T XD]

I do believe that Sasuke will become a wanderer after his redemption in the end more than he will die after being redeemed. But that leaves what Naruto said about confessing his feelings to Sakura after bringing Sasuke home.
Like i said before, if Sasuke dies at end which that why Naruto will confess his feelings for Sakura either way. There will be something happening, it could be during the war or after it, that will change his view about promising himself that he'll confess after bringing Sasuke and not showing that if he didn't bring Sasuke back will be counted as a fail goal if the choice will be that Sasuke will die and he won't return to Konoha and that something of a moment will have Sakura a part in it.

The thing is Sasuke could return to Konoha but i still see it till now as a far possibility. He will probably be redeemed but not going back to Konoha but these choices on whether Sasuke will die or not, or coming back to Konoha or not are all possible cause we have to get more chapters to see what could Kishi is most likely planning for Sasuke, it has been almost a year and we're having the same thoughts on whether he'll come back or not and what will it be. Everything now and since a long time are focused more on the war than anything else in term of plot and Naruto will have some things that he'll take in consideration that will follow for future changes in his life.

Edited by T XD, 24 September 2012 - 11:27 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sasuke won't die, that doesn't mean he will come back to Konoha, he will become a wanderer or something like that but he won't die that's for sure. For Narusaku to happen without any ambiguity Sasuke needs to live ayway otherwise people would always wonder if Sakura choose Naruto because Sasuke is dead, she has to choose him over Sasuke not because Sasuke is no more.

i prefer him to die, he did a lot of bad things and it's better for the sharingan does not exist anymore.

[Weltall]

i prefer him to die, he did a lot of bad things and it's better for the sharingan does not exist anymore.

There are a lot of things that I would prefer to happen but I'm realist Sasuke dying even redeemed would be a failure, he has been Naruto's goal for the most of part 2 so I'm confident he won't die. Quincy summed it quite nicely. He won't come back but he will see his errors and try to find his own place in this new world Naruto will help create.

Edited by Weltall, 24 September 2012 - 11:10 AM.

[Paptala]

Wow. Just wow. This calls for standing ovation. Let's give around the applause, ladies and gentlemen!

I was going to post on my answer, but you really hit it where it effects the most. The parallel answer is a great answer and glad you pointed out that they are all mixed in with NaruSaku. It's ironic because these stuff makes Naruto to win over. You get the hot temper, which guys would be scare of and you get another guy who she loves, which is challenging for a guy. That said the reward for NaruSaku will be grand not just for us, but everyone. It will go down as one of the best outcome in anime/manga, at least to me and I watch/read a lot of them.

I agree about the failure aspect. As I written before, Naruto was in no doubt depressed when he saw her hugging Sasuke, feeling like perhaps he can't win her love. But no, he didn't stop there. He can't let go because he's not quitter. What he's doing now is what a real man would do: make her happy. Naruto is no longer a kid in that aspect. Well, got to know a woman's heart clearer, but he can work on that. That's why I am behind him 100% to win her love. I'm pretty sure we are not alone on it as well.

Thanks a lot You hit the nail on the head with what I was thinking!

Since theres no one posting anything again i will start again.

So when do you think naruto`s going to confess to sakura. Maybe during the war??
I personally think its going to be before or after narutos fight with saskue but maybe its also a totally different moment we dont know yet.

I think Naruto will most likely confess after his fight with Sasuke, but its also possible that Sakura could push him to say something earlier depending on how stuff plays out from here on out, and when Sakura realizes her own feelings.

Yeah i just hope there are some NS moments till beginning of 2013 since we havent got any for more then 1 year!

I know - if it weren't for the movie, the SD series, and the anime I would have gone into NaruSaku deprivation mode - I'm definitely more than ready for some substantial NaruSaku interaction in the manga.

@Paptala and NaruSaku4life3g: Great posts!!!

Thanks so much!

To answer your question, Naruto will confess to Sakura in the end, which it is after bringing Sasuke back. Naruto made it clear that he won't tell her how he feels until the time is right, which is fulfilling the promise. I realized that Sasuke is the most challenging obstacle that Naruto must face in order for his dreams to become a reality. He wants to be the Hokage, but he declared that he will not become one if he doesn't save Sasuke. If he can save Sasuke, everything will be open. Naruto at this state feels like he's not worthy for Sakura because of that promise. Does it mean he gives up? Hell no. It only means that his love life is on hold until everything is settled. As of now, he will protect her.

We will still get NS moments before the finale (Naruto's confession) by addressing Sakura's feelings for Naruto. Sakura may enter the realization of her feelings right before the final battle starts. Sakura must realize her true feelings before the end. We already have a bad thought on Sasuke by her. Now, we need to know what's her take on Naruto. It's most likely that they will talk to each other and from that, she can finally learn. Much like part 1, when Naruto made the promise of the lifetime, she came to realization that Naruto is the man who always understands her the most and helps her the most. Now, this could be a new step for her. Her next realization will revolve around Naruto. Kishi wrote Sakura in part 1 as a misunderstood girl. When part 1 was near at the end, Sakura realized the truth about Naruto. Now in part 2, it's about her realizing her bonds with Naruto, whether if it's a good friendship or beyond that. Time will tell.

YES Excellently said.

Sasuke won't die, that doesn't mean he will come back to Konoha, he will become a wanderer or something like that but he won't die that's for sure. For Narusaku to happen without any ambiguity Sasuke needs to live ayway otherwise people would always wonder if Sakura choose Naruto because Sasuke is dead, she has to choose him over Sasuke not because Sasuke is no more.

Yes, this is one of my more personal reasons for not wanting Sasuke to die - having to face that argument would be rather tiresome.

To me, Sasuke becoming a wanderer is the most believable outcome at this point.

And to add to Weltall's post, Sasuke surviving (not that I'm saying I think he'll come out of it unscathed) and going into exile (either being ordered by the Alliance or self-imposed) is the most likely outcome now, to satisfy as many of the fans on either side as possible and still keep to the story's core themes.

But to add my thoughts to the whole 'Sasuke dying = Naruto failing vs Sasuke living = return to Konoha' debate that's been going on recently, it doesn't have to be one or the other. It doesn't matter anymore whether Sasuke returns to Konoha or not. The whole Kage summit arc served to open Naruto's eyes to the reality of the Sasuke situation (along with other people in his life, i.e Sakura). That dealing with Sasuke was no longer a domestic, Konoha-only incident, it had moved on to include all 5 nations, and as Shikamaru put it - Naruto and the others had only been given the time up until then to deal with Sasuke because of Tsunade's leniency. If it were any other rogue-nin Konoha would've had them killed. But the arc showed something else as well - that Sasuke's actions had destroyed any chance of him coming back. With Sasuke now set on killing everyone in Konoha, he's brought the relationship between the Uchiha and Konoha to a point of no return, it cannot be repaired. If Naruto saves him, Konoha will not welcome him back, and likewise Sasuke will never forgive them (though it was more the Elder's doing) for ostracising and later wiping out his family. They would not be able to co-exist with that kind of bad blood, no matter how hard Naruto might try to patch things over. So if Sasuke does live to see this series out, then I feel it would be best for everyone involved if Sasuke and Konoha went their separate ways, permanantly.

You worded it better than I ever could. I completely agree 100%.

Sai even told Naruto at the summit the exact same thing - Konoha will not accept Sasuke back into the village anymore after what he's done, and even if they did, Sasuke would be miserable there. He is too angry with the Konoha government and the people of Konoha for unknowingly enjoying the benefit of Itachi's sacrifice. Even if he let that anger go after being redeemed, I don't think that he would ever be able to trust and work for Konoha ever again.

i prefer him to die, he did a lot of bad things and it's better for the sharingan does not exist anymore.

Dying is the easy way out though. Living with what you've done for years is much harder, and spending those years trying to actively atone for your actions is a much more suitable way to pay for past actions as egregious as Sasuke's, imo.

[Branden]

i prefer him to die, he did a lot of bad things and it's better for the sharingan does not exist anymore.

I dont care if Sasuke slaughterd an orphan's puppy in front of it's owner, there is no reason somebody should be killed if they have proven themselves to have changed. Sasuke will have to live with the guilt of what he's done and constantly prove himself to be a good person, isn't that enough for you? Or are you blinded by your own self-righteous fury?

[Weltall]

Yes, this is one of my more personal reasons for not wanting Sasuke to die - having to face that argument would be rather tiresome.

Don't worry even if NS happens when Sasuke is alive you will have other dumb arguments like Sakura choose Naruto because he's hokage or other bias like that, it's not for the anti that I want Sasuke to live it's mostly for the sake of Naruto and Sakura, knowing Sasuke is well and alive they can move on with their life, also it wouldn't be like during the Kage sumit arc where Sakura was pressured to make a choice she didn't want to do, this time she would choose who she really wants to be with without external pressure.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I dont care if Sasuke slaughterd an orphan's puppy in front of it's owner, there is no reason somebody should be killed if they have proven themselves to have changed. Sasuke will have to live with the guilt of what he's done and constantly prove himself to be a good person, isn't that enough for you? Or are you blinded by your own self-righteous fury?

prove himself a good person?
i think u dont get it, it's not a matter of karma it's shounen, or he will die or he will become a wanderer or he will live in the village, proving himself he's clearly not going to do this.

and second if sasuke comes back to the village well and alive, sakura might want to choose him so it's not 100% certain if he backs to the village sakura might choose naruto, what i think that dont let sasuke come back to the village is because karin,suigetsu and juugo i really doubt if he will abandon those guys, those characters orbitate towards sasuke.

Edited by dovahkiin, 24 September 2012 - 01:19 PM.

[CloudMountainJuror]

I myself am one of the people that want Sasuke to die. Or, at the very least, become a wanderer forever. I just don't want him to return to the Leaf. Please god, no. That would just be...awful. All kinds of awful.

By the way...hasn't this been discussed like, 20 times before on this thread? o_O

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 24 September 2012 - 01:45 PM.

[PhenixElite]

prove himself a good person?
i think u dont get it, it's not a matter of karma it's shounen, or he will die or he will become a wanderer or he will live in the village, proving himself he's clearly not going to do this.

and second if sasuke comes back to the village well and alive, sakura might want to choose him so it's not 100% certain if he backs to the village sakura might choose naruto, what i think that dont let sasuke come back to the village is because karin,suigetsu and juugo i really doubt if he will abandon those guys, those characters orbitate towards sasuke.

I personally think sasuke is going to be a wanderer or sacrificing himself for naruto.
But even if he returns to the leaf, like said many times before, sakura wont choose sasuke cause it would destroy narutos and sakuras character and the whole story so i dont really worrie about that.I see no chance for SS, it would be the worst lovestory ever.

[T XD]

prove himself a good person?
i think u dont get it, it's not a matter of karma it's shounen, or he will die or he will become a wanderer or he will live in the village, proving himself he's clearly not going to do this.

and second if sasuke comes back to the village well and alive, sakura might want to choose him so it's not 100% certain if he backs to the village sakura might choose naruto, what i think that dont let sasuke come back to the village is because karin,suigetsu and juugo i really doubt if he will abandon those guys, those characters orbitate towards sasuke.

Why would she do that ? Sakura is falling for Naruto. Her feelings for Sasuke are overriding by her feelings for Naruto. If she chose Sasuke, it means that she's not thinking right and she was fooling herself about what she was feeling for Naruto which means she's back to her old self when she was young.

Sakura won't dot this to herself, she got the brains to think.

Edited by T XD, 24 September 2012 - 02:07 PM.