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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:03 PM

I like this kind of topic :hehehe:

 

I for one don't gauge people on how powerful they are .... like oh who could blow a planet or universe , that's not the way i see power/strength. First of Ichigo try his hard to RESIST his hollow power , hes not just give in to anger and easy power. In my opinion THAT IS POWER , the power of WILL TO RESIST dark power. Unlike Naruto who can easily say "HEY YOU DUMB FOX GIVE ME YOUR POWER" , Naruto is easily give in to power to his anger. He doesn't understand until sometime after being told by Yamato and Jiraya the damage he cause when he goes berserk , he easily tempted using "The Fast Way" , which is for me it's weird because how he said "There's no shortcut to become hokage" to Konohamaru. Ichigo understand well that if he goes berserk and his hollow power take over it could bring harm to his allies. That is where i think Ichigo win , he has real willpower , where Naruto easily given in.

 

Also i think Ichigo have better resolve / reasoning why he needs power , he wants to protect the people he love , his family , and his friends , he lose his mother because of hollow. Naruto wants power because he wants to be acknowledge , he wants to become hokage because it's famous , basically he just wants attention. Here Ichigo win again.

 

The person that Ichigo wants to save : Rukia and Inoue.

The person that Naruto wants to save ??? : UCHIHA SASUKE :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  for the entire 700 chapter ....

I mean ... come on ....

 

3 - 0 , Ichigo wins. In my opinion , raw power doesn't truly matter , what matter is , their reason to fight why they want power , and the will to resist dark power and easy power up.

To me the key word isn't power, but if someone's got skills then they get gold in my book. ;p


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:17 PM

Whoever wins has to fight Goku. XD
 

 

Lol How about both Goku and Superman as a tag team, I mean I would see both Goku and Superman getting along very well, with Goku call him Sups.

 

a death battle I want to see is something With Hinata in it getting her stupid little ass handed to her as the rules says no outside help from your other, who would she fight now sure need to be female and need to be very bad ass as well James just not sure really.

 

But what I do know is when she starts to lose she will cry out in pain for. "Naruto kun please save me." before being killed either by getting her head cut off or however the one she will face shall kill her and she would die.

 

once it was done we all know her fans would all lose their minds and will want blood,



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:22 PM

Also i like the idea of Ichigo power source. If he remains confident , happy , all those positive feelings , Zangetsu will become his power source. But if he goes sad , afraid , depressed , fearful , his hollow will become his power source. It's basically teach us to always remains positive no matter how hard our life is.


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:28 PM

Given that Bleach is the most op verse of the big three manga by it's second arc Ichigo is the most likely to succeed, imagine the butthurt reaction form naruto fanboys coughdouble4cough

 

I can already picture the whiny, nasally rage video being uploaded.

 

Also i like the idea of Ichigo power source. If he remains confident , happy , all those positive feelings , Zangetsu will become his power source. But if he goes sad , afraid , depressed , fearful , his hollow will become his power source. It's basically teach us to always remains positive no matter how hard our life is.

 

My favorite moment of Bleach is still that part where he learns the secret of the Final Getsuga and why Zangetsu wouldn't teach him it willingly. It was a nice penalty for using that attack to damage Aizen long enough for him to be sealed. Plus that black hair looked great!


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:31 PM

I just want to see one which Sasuke will be in and killed I can think what Kishi would do when he sees his lovely Sasuke lose and gets killed.



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:36 PM

 

Lol How about both Goku and Superman as a tag team, I mean I would see both Goku and Superman getting along very well, with Goku call him Sups.

 

a death battle I want to see is something With Hinata in it getting her stupid little ass handed to her as the rules says no outside help from your other, who would she fight now sure need to be female and need to be very bad ass as well James just not sure really.

 

But what I do know is when she starts to lose she will cry out in pain for. "Naruto kun please save me." before being killed either by getting her head cut off or however the one she will face shall kill her and she would die.

 

once it was done we all know her fans would all lose their minds and will want blood,

I would love to see Mordred from Fate/Apocrypha in a Death Battle with Hinata-hime.  Show her how a real woman handles business.


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:36 PM

i remember the drama about who'd win between madara and aizen. i dont even read bleach and i know aizen would beat madara full power. but no, the plae it was on, madara "won" because popularity. its the same with who'd win in a DEATH match between batman and superman. obviously superman but since batman is more popular, batman wins.



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 09:47 PM

I would love to see Mordred from Fate/Apocrypha in a Death Battle with Hinata-hime.  Show her how a real woman handles business.

We know her fans the Hinata ones would kitten saying that Hinata-hime has the powers of a god and shouldn't lose.

 

I would also add if they did a family vs family I would love to see the great NaruHina family vs Gohan and Videl's family how it would go is this.

 

Gohan Vs Naruto

 

Videl vs, Hinata

 

Pan vs Boruto and Himawaia (Don't care if I get her name right)



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 10:31 PM

i remember the drama about who'd win between madara and aizen. i dont even read bleach and i know aizen would beat madara full power. but no, the plae it was on, madara "won" because popularity. its the same with who'd win in a DEATH match between batman and superman. obviously superman but since batman is more popular, batman wins.

 

As much as I liked Madara's character, Aizen would win because he would keep on evolving. He was only able to be sealed because he was weakened by Ichigo's mugetsu.


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Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:46 PM

Aizen is extremely cunning. Strength is one thing, but intelligence is another, and I think Aizen surpasses Madara in that area.



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 11:49 PM

I just want to let everyone know that on November 11th, on Death Battle, Ichigo is going to fight Naruto.s188x2.png
I really hope Ichigo wins this. I am sorry, but Naruto is just not really powerful.

Yes finally the match I want to see, ichigo I hope wins.

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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:07 AM

 

Lol How about both Goku and Superman as a tag team, I mean I would see both Goku and Superman getting along very well, with Goku call him Sups.

 

a death battle I want to see is something With Hinata in it getting her stupid little ass handed to her as the rules says no outside help from your other, who would she fight now sure need to be female and need to be very bad ass as well James just not sure really.

 

But what I do know is when she starts to lose she will cry out in pain for. "Naruto kun please save me." before being killed either by getting her head cut off or however the one she will face shall kill her and she would die.

 

once it was done we all know her fans would all lose their minds and will want blood,

They'd be stumbling over themselves with double standards - on one hand, they'd whine and complain about killing Hinata and saying that her opponent was way too rough and should have spared her because she didn't deserve to die like that (ignoring that one of the rules of DEATH BATTLE! is the losing combatant dies no matter what), but on the other hand, they'd also be saying she shouldn't have lost because she's "so strong" and "powerful" and over-hype the same typical scenes they always do and even make up crap about what her moves can do, bring up how she could "tank" Neji's strikes and whatnot.
 

 

I just want to see one which Sasuke will be in and killed I can think what Kishi would do when he sees his lovely Sasuke lose and gets killed.

Sasuke vs. Kirito - the battle of the edgelords? XD

Or just put Sasuke (or Kirito) against Guts, lol.

 

Aizen is extremely cunning. Strength is one thing, but intelligence is another, and I think Aizen surpasses Madara in that area.

Yeah, Aizen's plan felt "real" and it truly required cunning, deception, etc. to pull off, and even the tiniest of missteps could have exposed him and ruined all that planning.

Madara's "plan", aside from simply being pulled out the rear, involved a lot of stuff taking place that was either extremely convenient and/or simply defied basic logic. (Like I said, even if Obito was able to give Nagato Madara's Rinnegan eyes by kidnapping and drugging him to do the operation and such, it still doesn't explain how they were able to be "turned off" in order to be "awakened" during the incident with Hanzo and Danzo; and even if they somehow were able to be turned off, they would have simply reverted back to the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, then the normal Sharingan, and then back to normal eyes. In which case, did Madara and Nagato have matching eye colors? lol)

You really need a good balance of power, endurance, speed, intelligence, and abilities (and feats when it comes to DEATH BATTLE!) - all using shown and proven, in-universe facts and not things like unproven mythology, legend, and "lore".


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:38 AM

 

As much as I liked Madara's character, Aizen would win because he would keep on evolving. He was only able to be sealed because he was weakened by Ichigo's mugetsu.

 

Yeah, and the fact too though that for Aizen, he had legitimate reasons for his goals, since he felt the Spirit King was worthless and HE should have been God to be able to change things, even if like Ichigo hinted, perhaps he did want to go back to being a normal Soul Reaper after Ichigo surpassed his power.

 

With Madara... he was all over the place.



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:43 AM

Narutoverse is below only 3-4 series in power man. Sorry to disappoint. Only DB, Toriko, Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon are above Naruto in Destructive powers and hax.

Kishi went full on retard trying to make his characters less ninja and more DBZ aliens esque.

That said, Sasuke would get his ass handed by any fodder from the above series. Dragon Ball Krillin has had better speed feats than Sasuke.

Krillin rapes Sasuke in a fight. Any Post time skip Toriko characters could solo the entire Naruto-verse with mid difficulty.

Saiyan saga Goku and Vegeta solo Naruto-verse. We could go on and on.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:52 AM

Narutoverse is below only 3-4 series in power man. Sorry to disappoint. Only DB, Toriko, Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon are above Naruto in Destructive powers and hax.

Kishi went full on retard trying to make his characters less ninja and more DBZ aliens esque.

That said, Sasuke would get his ass handed by any fodder from the above series. Dragon Ball Krillin has had better speed feats than Sasuke.

Krillin rapes Sasuke in a fight. Any Post time skip Toriko characters could solo the entire Naruto-verse with mid difficulty.

Saiyan saga Goku and Vegeta solo Naruto-verse. We could go on and on.

gurren laggan is more overpowered than all of them but that's going into giant robot anime. also you forgot one punch man, saitama who has been said to have broken his limiter, making him have no limit to his strength. even now we still haven't seen him go all out. also everyone seems to ignore that little detail when they talk about goku being stronger than saitama, saitama having broken his limiter.    


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:56 AM

Imagine Naruto or Sasuke going up against this guy!

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And Naruto fans sill have the mind to claim Naruto and Sasuke could beat this guy  :argh:  :argh:


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:59 AM

gurren laggan is more overpowered than all of them but that's going into giant robot anime. also you forgot one punch man, saitama who has been said to have broken his limiter, making him have no limit to his strength. even now we still haven't seen him go all out. also everyone seems to ignore that little detail when they talk about goku being stronger than saitama, saitama having broken his limiter.    

 

Gurren Lagann is because of the mechs. The people themselves are not that powerful. Saitama's best feats to date are his jump from the moon to the Earth and off-setting Boro's Collapsing Star cannon. So until we see more feats, I'll take people who warp reality (Saint Seiya, Sailor moon) and people who can send people into space, crack a planet as big as Uranus (Toriko) :P


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:15 AM

 

Gurren Lagann is because of the mechs. The people themselves are not that powerful. Saitama's best feats to date are his jump from the moon to the Earth and off-setting Boro's Collapsing Star cannon. So until we see more feats, I'll take people who warp reality (Saint Seiya, Sailor moon) and people who can send people into space, crack a planet as big as Uranus (Toriko) :P

yes, they're the best feats we've seen, doesn't mean that's his limit, not when he's confirmed to have no limiter and held back against boros the whole time. plus the manga and webcomic have been way ahead of the anime, there are moves he's done not even in the anime yet and its still ongoing, so actually we can't say that he's weaker than goku when he has no limit and hasn't shown full strength. and as for gurren laggan, the humans are the source of the power, the mechs  are just how they use it, but they could go in their mechs, form tengen toppa gurren laggan, and crush the universe of one of those characters in their bare hands, none of those series listed are that op.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:20 AM

yes, they're the best feats we've seen, doesn't mean that's his limit, not when he's confirmed to have no limiter and held back against boros the whole time. plus the manga and webcomic have been way ahead of the anime, there are moves he's done not even in the anime yet and its still ongoing, so actually we can't say that he's weaker than goku when he has no limit and hasn't shown full strength. and as for gurren laggan, the humans are the source of the power, the mechs  are just how they use it, but they could go in their mechs, form tengen toppa gurren laggan, and crush the universe of one of those characters in their bare hands, none of those series listed are that op.

 

I don't think they can crush universe. Their best feats were throwing galaxies at each other. Plus Toriko characters are FTL and would wreck any and all Gurren characters before they realize what's happening.


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Posted 19 October 2017 - 03:27 AM

yes, they're the best feats we've seen, doesn't mean that's his limit, not when he's confirmed to have no limiter and held back against boros the whole time. plus the manga and webcomic have been way ahead of the anime, there are moves he's done not even in the anime yet and its still ongoing, so actually we can't say that he's weaker than goku when he has no limit and hasn't shown full strength. and as for gurren laggan, the humans are the source of the power, the mechs  are just how they use it, but they could go in their mechs, form tengen toppa gurren laggan, and crush the universe of one of those characters in their bare hands, none of those series listed are that op.

It has been confirmed in the data books that the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 10 million light years in height, making it roughly one hundred times the size of the Milky Way Galaxy. It is the the third largest mecha in anime to date, the other two being the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, and the Super Granzeboma.

 

Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 52.8 billion light years tall, according to the official guide book from GAINAX (仕事魂). This makes it about 58% the size of the observable universe, which spans 91 billion light years.

Still don't see how something smaller than the observable universe can throw universes around.


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