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[VanitasDS76491]

Kyuubi chakra does not pass down genetically. Shina would not gain anything from Naruto except a bit of Uzumaki blood. Shina and Tsunade share a similar genetic makeup, so Shina can certainly grow to be very powerful without any kyuubi chakra.
 
Most of us on tumblr definitely have Hanami taking after Naruto and eventually wanting to be Hokage. Not for typical BS reasons that are forced, but because even with all of Naruto's work, it could easily be undone if the right kind of person came and threw a wrench in it. So she wants to continue Naruto's legacy and protect it. This comes included with her own cloak that we made up
 

 
and bonus comic from the tums by aaliyah-draws, which illustrates her personality and their sibling dynamic pretty well

 
Ah Shina, my boy He's certainly more like Sakura and Minato than he is his father, but they also share some goofiness/lovable idiot vibes even though Shina is not exactly an idiot. (maybe a little lazy/distracted by slugs) And yes, a big part of his character is that he doesn't end up wanting to be Hokage even though he's proud of Naruto's accomplishments and progress. He wants to find his own way. What that way is, I don't know. But ANBU could be one. He is trained to be a medical ninja, but who knows if he completely fulfills the role of that when put on a team (as in, he's probably not usually designated healer unless something real bad happens)
 
Actually, pumyteh and I right now are trying to decide what his chakra color would be. We discussed his nature would most likely be wind since it's hereditary, and maybe a secondary earth, water (Sakura), or lightning (possibly Minato). Naruto's chakra was originally yellow in the manga, and the anime made it blue. Minato's was also yellow. Sakura's we never truly see except her healing chakra. We never truly see Kushina's except a red aura when she's angry. And we never see Mebuki or Kizashi's.
 
Thoughts?

Awesome on this and I love that bonus hokage hanami comic where she's overjoyed she hokage and says she's her older brother boss. I love what you and pumyteh do with Shina and hanami.

[James S Cassidy]

I just want to let everyone know that on November 11th, on Death Battle, Ichigo is going to fight Naruto.



I really hope Ichigo wins this. I am sorry, but Naruto is just not really powerful.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Whoever wins, we lose.

[James S Cassidy]

Whoever wins, we lose.

Whoever wins has to fight Goku. XD
 

 

It's a completely subjective thing. No real interest for universe fight logic comparisons. 

Well, don't watch it and of course it is subjective because there is no way to get an objective answer. If anything, it comes down to the writer and whoever wants to win in writing said story. However, facts about each character and feats they can do can give a good idea where they stand. You also have to look at intention of character. And by intent I mean purpose.

Of course, a writer might get information wrong such as Wizard magazine saying that Superman would lose to Goku because of a fall from orbit, but Superman has been thrown from orbit and hit the planet with enough force to cause the planet to get mass destruction and Superman got up more pissed off than hurt.

So, there is such a thing as subjective bias especially when the facts can be proven wrong.

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 18 October 2017 - 06:41 PM.

[sushi.]

I just want to let everyone know that on November 11th, on Death Battle, Ichigo is going to fight Naruto.



I really hope Ichigo wins this. I am sorry, but Naruto is just not really powerful.

Ichigo is a swordsman. Naruto has no base. Take away his SM and KM he's left with an energyball and clones. Meh. It's pathetic so go Ichigo.

[James S Cassidy]

Ichigo is a swordsman. Naruto has no base. Take away his SM and KM he's left with an energyball and clones. Meh. It's pathetic so go Ichigo.

Aren't Ichigos powers basically supernatural or otherwordly? Shinigami's and all. I mean, I know the Hagaromo is powerful and all, but his powers are not supernatural.

[ThroughWithLove]

Technically, Ichigo wins since Naruto has no reiatsu and would thus be unable to withstand Ichigo's "spiritual pressure."

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 18 October 2017 - 07:03 PM.

[sushi.]

Aren't Ichigos powers basically supernatural or otherwordly? Shinigami's and all. I mean, I know the Hagaromo is powerful and all, but his powers are not supernatural.

Yes that wasn't my point I'm saying without Naruto's two OP powers he's left with very little. In gaiden he even uses KM to take down weak enemies.

[BlueStarSaber]

Given that Bleach is the most op verse of the big three manga by it's second arc Ichigo is the most likely to succeed, imagine the butthurt reaction form naruto fanboys coughdouble4cough

[James S Cassidy]

Given that Bleach is the most op verse of the big three manga by it's second arc Ichigo is the most likely to succeed, imagine the butthurt reaction form naruto fanboys coughdouble4cough

In the words of TFS: "NAAAAAAAAAIIIIILLLLL....kick his ass"

[TouKen4Life3g]

The battle between Two crappy/major disappointing/overrated/forgotten by writers/based on anime forever stopped and the other forever go Protagonists is pretty hype!

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 18 October 2017 - 07:23 PM.

[sushi.]

Luffy would murder them both. XD

Good battle developments 10 points all go to Oda.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Yeah, I don't know a whole lot about Bleach, but I clearly remember A LOT of calls of "OP" in it which I have NEVER actually heard from Naruto in any truly serious manner.

Ichigo is a lot more diverse in his powers and abilities (Shinigami, Hollow, Quincy, and his true zanpakuto) whereas Naruto tends to be a pretty one-trick pony - with only Sage Mode being the only real deviation from his norm - with mostly just Kage Bunshin, Henge, Rasengan-based stuff, and Kurama chakra stuff. And that's assuming Kurama isn't removed due to being considered "outside help" given that, while he may be sealed within Naruto, it's still "his" chakra, not Naruto's "own" chakra...at least not until it gets filtered by the seal. There's a reason that training with Bee involved Naruto initially having to literally take Kurama's chakra by force (and thus resulting in a much weaker cloak).

And while Ichigo can be hot-headed like Naruto, he still would require more discipline in order to wield a sword in general, much less the zanpakuto. Outside of just the Sage Mode training itself, Naruto never really went through any sort of instilling of discipline like that. After Sage Mode training was done *poof!* he's able to just do it on the fly whenever he wants and Naruto has just been power, power, power.

[James S Cassidy]

Yes that wasn't my point I'm saying without Naruto's two OP powers he's left with very little. In gaiden he even uses KM to take down weak enemies.

Right, but I was asking because I haven't read bleach in a while. Can KM and Naruto's chakra beat or defend against Ichigo supernatural abilities? I am not too familiar with Bleach so I only know how powerful Ichicgo is since he fought Rukia's older brother.

I hope Ichigo wins. Bleach might have had a crappy rushed ending, but at least Ichigo is a better character than Naruto. He actually cares about people other than a secret homosexual love affair from a ambiguously gay "best friend."

[sushi.]

ANYWAy..

Right, but I was asking because I haven't read bleach in a while. Can KM and Naruto's chakra beat or defend against Ichigo supernatural abilities? I am not too familiar with Bleach so I only know how powerful Ichicgo is since he fought Rukia's older brother.

I hope Ichigo wins. Bleach might have had a crappy rushed ending, but at least Ichigo is a better character than Naruto. He actually cares about people other than a secret homosexual love affair from a ambiguously gay "best friend."

Sorry I didn't understand so I took a gamble xD

 

I haven't read bleach in a while either. Not all in bleach are shinigamis, like the guy with the glasses or the darkskinned guy. So if they can fight shinigamis, which I believe they do, then Naruto should be able to as well. Either way if he has no defense against shinigami powers they probably wouldn't be up for a death battle as it would be unfair.

[ThroughWithLove]

The one thing I will say Naruto has got going for him is the way they amped his power level to the max in having him shrug off an attack that had sliced clean through the entire moon. 

[Illnevergiveup3]

sorry to say, but in my opinion, Naruto stomps... HARD.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I don't know who this Naruto is, but it sounds like pre-Asta.

[Yyubie]

I like this kind of topic

 

I for one don't gauge people on how powerful they are .... like oh who could blow a planet or universe , that's not the way i see power/strength. First of Ichigo try his hard to RESIST his hollow power , hes not just give in to anger and easy power. In my opinion THAT IS POWER , the power of WILL TO RESIST dark power. Unlike Naruto who can easily say "HEY YOU DUMB FOX GIVE ME YOUR POWER" , Naruto is easily give in to power to his anger. He doesn't understand until sometime after being told by Yamato and Jiraya the damage he cause when he goes berserk , he easily tempted using "The Fast Way" , which is for me it's weird because how he said "There's no shortcut to become hokage" to Konohamaru. Ichigo understand well that if he goes berserk and his hollow power take over it could bring harm to his allies. That is where i think Ichigo win , he has real willpower , where Naruto easily given in.

 

Also i think Ichigo have better resolve / reasoning why he needs power , he wants to protect the people he love , his family , and his friends , he lose his mother because of hollow. Naruto wants power because he wants to be acknowledge , he wants to become hokage because it's famous , basically he just wants attention. Here Ichigo win again.

 

The person that Ichigo wants to save : Rukia and Inoue.

The person that Naruto wants to save ??? : UCHIHA SASUKE   for the entire 700 chapter ....

I mean ... come on ....

 

3 - 0 , Ichigo wins. In my opinion , raw power doesn't truly matter , what matter is , their reason to fight why they want power , and the will to resist dark power and easy power up.

[My Living Curse]

The person that Ichigo wants to save : Rukia and Inoue.

The person that Naruto wants to save ??? : UCHIHA SASUKE   for the entire 700 chapter ....

I mean ... come on ....

 

THIS. This right here is my exact sentiment. I always cringed whenever he trained and kept thinking about Sauceke. Does this guy have tendencies or what. Jeez.

 

What happened to that happy go lucky kid who wanted to get strong, become Hokage and be acknowledged?