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Posted 15 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

 

Yeah, I see this script error pointed out all the time. SP's staff missed it, Kishimoto missed it. It was missed. It's an error, and I've no issues acknowledging that's what it is.

 

Claiming though that they had every intention to make people forget the original plot though? That's a stretch. And I mean, what other errors really are there like this, continuity wise, in the Last? 

 

 

Except that they want us to believe its was a mistake. It's just a cover story and Kishi confirmed that when he flapped his gums about misleading the NS fanbase for 15 years and declaring all the NS plot to be a red herring.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 10:29 AM

I await your next chapter of pokemon ninja trainers whenever it releases  :thumb: that and sakura's curse mark, those are the 2 I like the best.


Just wait for his star wars and Akira story cause are going to be good, and Sakura is the main character in those and loads of narusaku stuff.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:21 AM

you know I think this lady has a very good point. It's on 0:41

 

 

HMM I wonder what couples THAT LINE can be directed to? :zaru:

Ah, Isekai wa Smartphone...such an underrated anime from what I've seen. Nothing that great or groundbreaking, but I still enjoyed it overall...and Yae is best girl. Yumina would be too, if she weren't underage...

Heck, Linze is yet another shy girl who gets way more screen time and development than Hinata ever did. She even confesses, kisses, and gets engaged to Touya (along with Yae and Elze; Yumina was already arranged several episodes prior) by the conclusion (though he doesn't plan to marry anyone at present) and it still feels real compared to anything NH / SS. .


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:33 AM

Isn't it correct that almost all Japanese fans were NaruSaku fans? Or most of the NaruSaku fans came from Japan?

Saw a japanese poll some years ago about favorite ships. NS was very popular and NH was not.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:40 AM

Isn't it correct that almost all Japanese fans were NaruSaku fans? Or most of the NaruSaku fans came from Japan?
Saw a japanese poll some years ago about favorite ships. NS was very popular and NH was not.

Not sure about NS fans, but I've heard most of them think that NS should happen because of the story and get NH in the end shocked them.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 12:44 PM

@James S Cassidy, she has no obligation to prove anything at all. She joined on her own will, so just flow with that. If anything, can always call her out if she or somebody else writes bs in your opinion.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 03:07 PM

That is true me I don't want to waste my time with her when I could be doing better thing like my fanfiction stories which Naruto and Sakura do get together I have a few right now

 

Pokemon Ninja Trainers

 

Sakura's cursed Mark

 

Team 7 the Ki wielding ninjas

 

True only three but all three have NaruSaku in it.

Not that be *that fan* buuut...

 

When's the next chapter? :P


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 04:42 PM

Isn't it correct that almost all Japanese fans were NaruSaku fans? Or most of the NaruSaku fans came from Japan?
Saw a japanese poll some years ago about favorite ships. NS was very popular and NH was not.

If memory serves, I believe the most popular pairings were KakaIru (Yaoi is kinda accepted in Japan), and SasuSaku (not sure why, though), after this is was NaruSaku, followed by NaruHina. Apparently, NaruHina fans were the loudest, but in Japan they even made a day for NaruSaku, so they were also passionate about them. Many believed that NS would be the end pairing, considering the chemistry between them.

In the west, NaruHina was more popular due to lack of knowledge regarding the Tsundere trope and due to SP exaggerating Sakura's violent outbursts towards Naruto.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 05:08 PM

If memory serves, I believe the most popular pairings were KakaIru (Yaoi is kinda accepted in Japan), and SasuSaku (not sure why, though), after this is was NaruSaku, followed by NaruHina. Apparently, NaruHina fans were the loudest, but in Japan they even made a day for NaruSaku, so they were also passionate about them. Many believed that NS would be the end pairing, considering the chemistry between them.
In the west, NaruHina was more popular due to lack of knowledge regarding the Tsundere trope and due to SP exaggerating Sakura's violent outbursts towards Naruto.


I heard a lot of people ship SasuSaku because they see Sakura as a self-insert character. Think about it.

Sasuke is one of the most popular characters in Naruto. He’s generally known to look good. He’s got that cool, bad boy personality that a bunch of people love. People also see Sakura as a relatable character. So, since Sakura is relatable, as well as the heroine, some fans put themselves in her.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 06:34 PM

Sakura: Some detailing on hospital administration. The good, the bad, the difficult. But if I could bring it back a few years, I would even more want to see Sakura run her own team, but the idea seems less plausible if the timeline is of Naruto currently being Hokage, due to Naruto being less able to managing the kids, and squad leading likely often taking her away from home.The idea of Sakura being a sensei just sounds awesome to me. Alternatively, maybe a First Lady likened position she takes on administratively, being the most loved and powerful kunoichi of all the lands. 

 

I think a story like Sakura running her own team would work best as a one-shot and set while her and Naruto are still dating. Maybe make it to where she is the made the squad leader for a new group of genins and her students are are expys of herself, Naruto and Sasuke. Girl in love with ninja prodigy, class clown good-for-nothing loser who is in love with the girl and the ninja prodigy who is only interested in himself. The oneshot could be centered around Sakura's POV as she is basically waltzing down memory lane with the benefit of hindsight.

 

 

Their Children*: (* Not really naming them, but if the name of the son was Shinachiku, as a little addition he would be briefly less than amused at the humorous origins of his name). Boy and girl, I would want them to be twins so they could be equally focused on. Thus pseudo sibling dynamic like in Naruto, or one very often not used sibling due to age difference like Hanabi, but an actual explore-able relationship filled with all the relatable things, rivalry, cooperation, conflict, and joy, and have it be right at the forefront. You could even sub out the Father-child conflict with this, though I think two different children with clashing views over their busy father situation would actually lend itself well to the narrative. They'd be on different Teams, and eventually clash against eachother in the preliminaries. Add in the cheating still and plenty of fun to be had. Already getting fan-fic ideas with this even. Also the sister's team would be all girls due to an error, but it would be kept that way out of interest to see how it goes.

 

I thought about giving Shinachiku a sister initially, but I think she's inevitably going to get overshadowed by her brother (which is more or less the case right now) so much that adding a younger sister should probably be something excluded to an epilogue scenario. I'm more fond of having Shinachiku getting Sasuke's daughter as a rival just for the sake of tradition. A daughter whose mother is either Karin . . . or Hinata just for kicks. :lmao:


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 07:33 PM

Not that be *that fan* buuut...
 
When's the next chapter? :P

He's working on them, but in curse seal is dark sakura taking over and has naruto and on a date where they confess and Naruto gives her a necklace. While ino and the other rookies tie hinata up to not interfere with Naruto and sakura's date and they kiss, before sakura is taken by the sound four and no she doesn't join willingly but is force to go with them. Team 7 is still on the kurama arc but should wrapping up them the trunks arc with sakura and goku coming back and Sakura and Naruto finally getting together.

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

@James S Cassidy, she has no obligation to prove anything at all. She joined on her own will, so just flow with that. If anything, can always call her out if she or somebody else writes bs in your opinion.

Yes, she does, actually, because how else would I know she is telling the truth? She has to take ownership of her words otherwise don't talk at all. If you want to be here regardless...fine, but lying I will not tolerate in my life anymore. If she has to play that defensive, then it is proof that she is lying about it. Otherwise, prove me wrong.

I make a notion, I show my evidence and case, and they make a counterpoint to prove me otherwise if they can. That is how simple it is.

If you don't want to argue it, then I will keep to my notion that she is a troll and a lying NH fan. You want to say I am wrong? Prove it. There is no obligation, but then my opinion wont change and will still not recognize her as anything more than that. If you are okay with that, then say nothing...do nothing. If you are not okay with that, then you are obligated to prove me wrong by your own volition.

I am not obligated to give her a chance and allow her to prove me wrong, but I do it anyway.


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Posted 15 October 2017 - 09:16 PM

This is how I see it.

 

Naruto; Works as Hokage in a time of peace, but sometimes struggles with diplomatic issues and so on. There might be conflicts of violence in their world like in any but no big wars or hatred. How much he works would depend on the village status, ex if he has a project going on he might come home late at times. My wish is that he will consider the village his family, but realize he can't do carry all the work and burdens himself. Is not like Boruto's dad at all.

 

Sakura; Works as chief of the hospital. More of a workaholic than Naruto, but not to an obsessive extent. Also advises the hokage, and Shikamaru might talk through her at times because he listens to his wife but not his actual right hand. (:lol:)

 

Shina; I really enjoy kirabook and the other NS fans on tumblr's version of him. He's Minato-ish in many ways. He has a sister, Hanami, and she's more like Naruto in attitude.

 

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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:42 PM

That moment you'd rather watch plan 9, Jason x , leprechaun 4 in space, or read spiderman one more day and civil war as opposed to naruto that's how bad naruto has gotten.
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Posted 15 October 2017 - 11:46 PM

We NS fans who do like the ending tend to disagree with you that there were anything betrayed in character or the plot. We disagree that Kishimoto didn't plan it, given that he said he planned the major pairings and the Naruto Sasuke fight. We disagree that there was fifteen years of build up, because there were fifteen years of acknowledgeable points that took away build up that would have pointed to a NS conclusion. This is also not even getting into the other blatant hints of other pairings happening. We all will love NaruSaku for life, but we will all also love Naruto for life, be grateful for Kishimoto's gift, and acknowledge it was a successful story that hadgiphy.gif a lasting impact on readers.

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Proving that NS doesn't make sense doesn't make me less of a fan, if anything, it could make me just as much as one, given that I acknowledge the information concerning NS, and I do so without hate or malice. I don't support any NS theories that discredit the author's authority over the manga. I don't support Retcon NS theories. I don't promote NS material as in showing it on the website, but then so don't many others. I just look for it, make comments, appreciate how much I like it, and the like.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:15 AM

"Theories", learn first, then talk. Facts are given straight, inability to understand them is only your problem.

Yeah, besides facts do make up points when doing arguments since if you don't present them, it shows how full of crap anything you theorize are.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:48 AM

Gah I love this discussion about the potential NaruSaku family! *___*

Okay, so in terms of family, kids specifically, it depends for me. Sometimes I can picture their first child being a little girl, but I also love them having a little boy like Shina (who I do see being more like Minato, with Sakura's smarts, but Naruto's looks). I could see him, instead of wanting to be hokage, he would want to take a different approach and go into something like Anbu.

Either way, I always see the girl acting like Naruto more, and being a daddy's girl haha. I see Naruto spoiling her cause he won't be able to say no or like wouldnt seeing the problem with things she'd ask. I see Sakura being more the one who would keep them on task and get her to do stuff like her studies etc.

I can see Naruto similar, only I feel like he wouldn't be that tired from his work. I feel like Naruto would still try to make an effort with his kids. If he did have rough patches at work, I feel like Sakura would be a little more involved too since she was the apprentice to Tsunade so I think she would have more of a role, especially when we look how Tsunade ran the hospital for the most part and was Hokage. So I think Sakura taking care of the hospital and Naruto of course being Hokage would be ideal and make things run much more smoothly. This makes the most sense to me.

But yeah. Those are my thoughts.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:04 AM

Gah I love this discussion about the potential NaruSaku family! *___*

Okay, so in terms of family, kids specifically, it depends for me. Sometimes I can picture their first child being a little girl, but I also love them having a little boy like Shina (who I do see being more like Minato, with Sakura's smarts, but Naruto's looks). I could see him, instead of wanting to be hokage, he would want to take a different approach and go into something like Anbu.

Either way, I always see the girl acting like Naruto more, and being a daddy's girl haha. I see Naruto spoiling her cause he won't be able to say no or like wouldnt seeing the problem with things she'd ask. I see Sakura being more the one who would keep them on task and get her to do stuff like her studies etc.

I can see Naruto similar, only I feel like he wouldn't be that tired from his work. I feel like Naruto would still try to make an effort with his kids. If he did have rough patches at work, I feel like Sakura would be a little more involved too since she was the apprentice to Tsunade so I think she would have more of a role, especially when we look how Tsunade ran the hospital for the most part and was Hokage. So I think Sakura taking care of the hospital and Naruto of course being Hokage would be ideal and make things run much more smoothly. This makes the most sense to me.

But yeah. Those are my thoughts.

 

I like it ^_^ It's really sweet for sure Wubbzy, and I also could see Naruto trying his hardest too to make sure any of his kids get the things in life he didn't have.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 05:44 AM

Gah I love this discussion about the potential NaruSaku family! *___*

Okay, so in terms of family, kids specifically, it depends for me. Sometimes I can picture their first child being a little girl, but I also love them having a little boy like Shina (who I do see being more like Minato, with Sakura's smarts, but Naruto's looks). I could see him, instead of wanting to be hokage, he would want to take a different approach and go into something like Anbu.

Either way, I always see the girl acting like Naruto more, and being a daddy's girl haha. I see Naruto spoiling her cause he won't be able to say no or like wouldnt seeing the problem with things she'd ask. I see Sakura being more the one who would keep them on task and get her to do stuff like her studies etc.

I can see Naruto similar, only I feel like he wouldn't be that tired from his work. I feel like Naruto would still try to make an effort with his kids. If he did have rough patches at work, I feel like Sakura would be a little more involved too since she was the apprentice to Tsunade so I think she would have more of a role, especially when we look how Tsunade ran the hospital for the most part and was Hokage. So I think Sakura taking care of the hospital and Naruto of course being Hokage would be ideal and make things run much more smoothly. This makes the most sense to me.

But yeah. Those are my thoughts.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:36 PM

I await your next chapter of pokemon ninja trainers whenever it releases  :thumb: that and sakura's curse mark, those are the 2 I like the best.

It should be soon as I am looking over it right now before I post the new chapter.

 

I tried writing an Initial D type fanfiction with Naruto characters. Got like 3 chapters out I believe, but I think I really need to start working on that and my Slam Dunk Sequel Fanfic.

Oh that's good then I hope to find them as its sounds good I am busy working hard on mine right now man but I hope that you all like the new chapters that will soon come out, I hope been ill again sadly which is not goos as last time I was sent to the Hospital.

 

Not that be *that fan* buuut...

 

When's the next chapter? :P

Lol well working on all three but takes time as on many of the fights and or pokemon battles which do take time as I want to make them all as good as I can make them, after all no need to rush such fine work after all am I right? :D






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