That is how it works, being all negative about characters interaction and their development hardly characterise you as fan of any of those. I am hardly can be called fan of NS after all this time, but you say things that doesn't connect to being fan of anything. I don't know why you feel entitled to come to every person on this forume and give them your opinion on how things "really turned out", if you are what you claim you are, you woud've been okay without this forume. But you have other reasons to come here and write what you write. Talk about being NS fan, and not even discuss it. Only debating why it wasn't going to happend or other things regarding canon. With all respect, hypocrisy is bad.
It is something I even mentioned to Nate about this when he mentioned we shouldn't make judgement calls on a person's "validity" on fanship. Problems is, people can and will lie. It is a part of human psychology.
I could say I am a NH fan and then bash Hinata into the ground saying how bad she is for Naruto, but my actions versus my claims does not add up. Plus, people don't believe you by word alone. You have to prove it. Imagine if I did the reverse to the NH fanbase going to a NH fan forum and posing as a NH fan and saying that all their analysis is bogus and they didn't read the manga right. I debunk everything with little to no retorts and my evidence is severely lacking.
If anything, despite what people do or say to Analyzer, we actually been really polite to her seeing how radical NH fans more often tend to give out death threats, constant berating, and even just down right team up and bashing the person constantly. Reminds me of Sawyer7mage who almost every Naruto video took a jab at NS. I remember the one about Kishimoto going to NYCC and saying "I better not see NS fans wanting an autograph on their fanart. That is pathetic." I actually replied to him with that one saying "We wouldn't want our beautiful fanart to be fowled by his signature anyway."
Point is we are actually a lot tamer than the other fandoms on a whole.
So Analyzer, you may claim to be a NS fan, but now you have to prove it. At least try to prove us wrong if you can and obviously, none of this "you have to believe me regardless" or "I don't have to prove anything" or "interpretation" or redefining the term "fan" will not help you. We are far passed that.
A fan, or fanatic, sometimes also termed afficionado or supporter, is a person who is enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody, such as a band, a sports team, a genre, a book, a movie or an entertainer. Collectively, the fans of a particular object or person constitute its fanbase or fandom. They may show their enthusiasm in a variety of ways, such as by promoting the object of their interest, being members of a fan club, holding or participating in fan conventions, or writing fan mail. They may also engage in creative activities ("fan labor") such as creating fanzines, writing fan fiction, making memes or drawing fan art.
You show none of these traits and in actuality you go against several of the requirements to being a "fan" of NS.
Keep in mind, this whole forum doesn't believe you. I don't think anyone here believes you are a NS fan. So you're gonna have to work a little harder.
Why do you like NS in the first place? (You seem to indicate they are not meant for each other and yet you like them? That's like saying you hate Adam Levine's voice, but you love Maroon 5 songs and them as a band which doesn't make any sense and no, just liking the melody of the songs doesn't count. You can't hate the music, but love the band. That's ridiculous.)
Do you feel NS makes a better couple? If the answer is no, then you're not a fan. If you say yes, then why don't you think NS should have happened in the story and say that the story was retconned to suit against NS?
Do you make NS fanart or NS fanfiction? If not, why not? You're a fan after all. Even bad fanfiction can show how much of a fan you are.
It kind of goes with the territory that most NS hate the ending of Naruto. Some fro reasons of shipping...others because the ending betrayed character traits in the end and the plot itself. Like we keep showing, and as you keep fighting against, if the ending was intended that way then why waste 15 years building something up that was pointless in the first place. Kishimoto has said that he only ever had a loose idea where the story went and all he cared about was Naruto and Sasuke. Everything else was just...whatever. So we know none of this could be planned because he couldn't even plan Madara's demise let alone something as clever as "red herring pairings in front of people." He is not that clever.
Check list:
Enthusiastically devoted to something or somebody? You failed. You keep trying to prove NS wrong instead of trying to prove why it should have been like we are doing.
Show their enthusiasm in a variety of ways, such as by promoting the object of their interest? Not only do you show no support for NS, but you don't promote anything pro-NS related materials or even theories. You're so busy trying to debunk NS.
If you want to be labeled a "fan" of something...you're gonna have to support it. It's in the definition of the work itself. Like I said, no "accepting the ending" and "claiming that you're living in the real world and promoting for what it is" is not being a fan. I'm sorry, but them is the rules of being fan. You either have to accept that or you can't and not a fan
Edited by James S Cassidy, 15 October 2017 - 08:21 AM.