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[winter-serenade]

So Naruto doesn't love Sakura because he never verbally said "I love Sakura"? You've heard of show, don't tell, right? Do you lack the skill to interpret something is true unless it's blatantly said?

"Show, don't tell", "actions are louder than words", those aren't true to you because things have to be said, not shown?

[James S Cassidy]

So Naruto doesn't love Sakura because he never verbally said "I love Sakura"? You've heard of show, don't tell, right? Do you lack the skill to interpret something is true unless it's blatantly said?

"Show, don't tell", "actions are louder than words", those aren't true to you because things have to be said, not shown?

But if Sasuke never says "I love you" to Sakura...we obviously have to look between the lines....and look at the "proper interpretations."

In fact, like I told Analyzer in another post, you can even see this dude say he is not interested in her in chapter 693 and she still tells me that "It is because of so and so reasons, but he actually does love her and WE are the ones misinterpreting."

It is funny how ridiculous these arguements get with pro-enders. If Naruto doesn't say he loves Sakura directly, but he does nice things for her and blushes....it's not because he loves her, but rather because....reasons that don't make sense, but when Sasuke constantly tells Sakura he doesn't care about her and says he doesn't want to love her directly...we need to read between the lines and see the suffering Sasuke has on him.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Writing dumb stuff, isn't "critical thinking" too, but you keep doing it.

[LuckyChi7]

Writing dumb stuff, isn't "critical thinking" too, but you keep doing it.

 

 

I see what you did there. 

 

 

[Shashank95]

Writing dumb stuff, isn't "critical thinking" too, but you keep doing it.

[Shashank95]

 

This insult isn't an argument.

Considering most of your "Argument" are just you insulting and calling us "Idiots" in your silver tongue, using fancy words. I'd say that's a great argument.

[James S Cassidy]

I want to show you guys something. So this girl sent me a friend request on facebook and I accepted. Truns out she was a Proender and a NH supporter. Big one. Over the course of her profile she spouts that she is a troll and that she loves pissing people off and enjoys people get angry. This is what happaned about one hour ago....well, before I started typing this.

This is what she posted. I am not gonna censor it because I believe these people need to be called out.

 

So all I have to say is

 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 13 October 2017 - 05:48 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

This insult isn't an argument.

I'm not calling you dumb, stuff that you write is.As you give no damn about acknowledging anything bewond your own "facts" that you just take from you head. There is no need for me to repeat what already been written. You keep writing how all here "misunderstand", "coudn't see between the lince" and "read in wrong way" stuff, and nothing will change.

I want to show you guys something. So this girl sent me a friend request on facebook and I accepted. Truns out she was a Proender and a NH supporter. Big one. Over the course of her profile she spouts that she is a troll and that she loves pissing people off and enjoys people get angry. This is what happaned about one hour ago....well, before I started typing this.

This is what she posted. I am not gonna censor it because I believe these people need to be called out.
 


So all I have to say is

Well, some enjoy even Boruto, that's ok for them I guess. And I don't see nothing wrong in kushina, but if that was pointed out to somebody who didn't care for end couples or was aganst them, than I think it's not a bad answer, choosing Kushina.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 13 October 2017 - 05:57 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Well, some enjoy even Boruto, that's ok for them I guess. And I don't see nothing wrong in kushina, but if that was pointed out to somebody who didn't care for end couples or was aganst them, than I think it's not a bad answer, choosing Kushina.

 

Right...you would think this was the case, but it wasn't. She gets so angry when I talk down about Hinata and bans me. So, salty is as salty does.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Misunderstood, read incorrectly? Well, yes. It's a valid conclusion to why your interpretation ended up off. You could argue it alo wasn't clear, or a bit of both, as you wished.

See, that's a dumb stuff I told you about.

Right...you would think this was the case, but it wasn't. She gets so angry when I talk down about Hinata and bans me. So, salty is as salty does.

Why even bother to talk to people like that? Or you enjoy feeding trolls?

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 13 October 2017 - 06:23 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

How do you justify it then without throwing out a statement that implies you know more then the author?
 
That person isn't really a troll either (At least from what we were shown)? I don't think you know what trolling is.

Do I have to justify anything to you? No. If you are blind to logic, I can't cure that.
Person stated that she's calling herself troll.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

It's a chance to make your claim have substance to it. Take it or leave it.

If only I had a reason to prove anything to you, who deliberately ingnores facts. Only you here crave for attention.

[Kagomaru]

 

Right...you would think this was the case, but it wasn't. She gets so angry when I talk down about Hinata and bans me. So, salty is as salty does.

Trolls can never take what they dish.

 

*sighs* Y'know, being the glorified trophy that he's perceived as in the eyes of NH, would it have made a difference if Hinata hypothetically got together with Memna instead?

Edited by Kagomaru, 13 October 2017 - 07:53 PM.

[ThroughWithLove]

Basically, boys and girls, throughout all of human history, no story has ever had a plot hole, plot contrivance or a retcon. And if you believe otherwise, you're just not applying any critical thinking skills! 

 

 

 

This is a failure on your part of not trying to see other interpretations of things. Consider a view for example that Naruto turning into Six Tails, and Pain's words used at the time "Love turning into Hate", and then the text Naruto feeling the worst feelings he has ever felt, which is specified to be because of Hinata. An implication of deeper feelings is absolutely credible. 

 

The movie establishes that he has no deeper feelings, which is why Naruto doesn't give a flying crap about walking Hinata home per Sakura's suggestion early into the movie. Early on, he doesn't blush, feel uneasy around or Hinata or anything. Despite Sakura and Ino's efforts, he doesn't budge and is instead waltzing around town with random floozies not named Hinata. It's not until he enters magical dreamland that he understands Hinata loves him and it's not until entering magical dream land that he falls in love with Hinata. That's what happened in the movie. Everything else is bull-kitten postulation crapped out of tumblr and is no more credible than my cracks about Naruto and Sasuke secretly having a thing for the other.

 

 

. . . .is the same risky position suggesting greater understanding of things than the Author, thus your position of "OOC" used on the Fake Confession. 

 

The author is not infallible, especially when he's inconsistent (and spare me the "decided" and "planned" don't mean the same thing BS  ). So it's not hard to have a greater understanding of things than what the author proclaims. One way to go about this is for the author to stop giving a crap, which we know the case to be with Akira Toriyama when he admitted to literally forgetting about certain characters as time went on and making stuff up as he went along.

 

 

And Frankly, on the moon part, it is. They -are- breathing on the moon. That is a detail alone signaling that the moon operates on a different set of rules. That -is- establishing it. 

 

Oh sweet, we can arbitrarily make up rules when we want to? Okay then. In that case, I hereby decree that James Bond's trademark PP7 has infinite ammunition! How pray tell? Well that clearly has to be the case because how else could he possible take out entire rooms of armed guards without ever reloading his pistol? We've already established that plot holes don't exist, so that HAS to be the explanation! Now bare in mind that the PP7 will lose its infinite ammunition traits should Bond find himself a tense and dramatic 1 on 1 showdown with the film's antagonist and there is a sudden need for fisticuffs, dangling from a ledge atop a precariously high structure and . . . drama! But otherwise, infinite ammunition! Yep!

 

 

 

This is the other error of your arguments, you want everything "told" to you, you won't take a "shown" example, which connects in your failing of taking in other interpretations. 

 

I want to be "shown" a story, not nonsense fangirl postulations from tumblr. If the reader sees a gap in what she is shown, it is not her job to "fill in the gap" and then turn around and criticize others about calling attention to said gap in the first place. It is the author's job to establish these things. If the author does not want to do that, the author should pay us to write the story. And in Naruto's case, from the looks of things, that probably would've been for the best anyway.

 

Don't get me wrong. I don't mind the practice of engaging in bullsh-t postulating in itself. That's fine and sometimes fun. The problem is when you start presenting these postulations as anything more than . . . postulations. We have no damn clue what Goku and Cell's power levels are during the Cell arc of Dragon Ball Z, but you'll find numerous fans much like yourself who try and pass off their bullsh-t guesswork as facts and then get angry when other fans don't quite see things the way they do.

 

That's really all I have to say in my defense of frankly, how Literature works. 

 

Nope, literature does not operate by making stuff up when presented with a plot hole, retcon or plot contrivance. Don't believe me? Cite me a single flaw from any story you can think of and I guaran-damn-tee you I can use "critical thinking" to demonstrate why there's no flaw to be found. The writing in The Last was horsesh-t. When you go out of your way to make excuses for it, you encourage the writers give us more horesh-t. And overtime, this leads to worse and worse material. Don't be an enabler. Demand something better than horsesh-t and you will get something better than horsesh-t.   

Edited by ThroughWithLove, 13 October 2017 - 08:09 PM.

[lupina]

 

Which reminds me! 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to assume that this picture was supposed to look cute.... but really, whith those empty eyes IRL she just looks like a Zombie or someone who is ... possessed.

[My Living Curse]

 

I'm going to assume that this picture was supposed to look cute.... but really, whith those empty eyes IRL she just looks like a Zombie or someone who is ... possessed.

 

It's meant to look creepy!  And it was in response to James' quote. As for the picture it's something I stumbled upon on facebook/tumblr. Still 100% accurate! 

Edited by My Living Curse, 13 October 2017 - 09:22 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Why even bother to talk to people like that? Or you enjoy feeding trolls?

 

Im a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I would do if I caught one. I just do things.



Well, if you want an answer, you have to ask yourself why are you talking to Analyzer? Do you enjoy feeding that troll?

Why do any of us do anything? Why are we still in this forum? The manga ended, NS isn't canon, so why are we still here?

Entertainment? A challenge? A safe space? What's really gonna bake your noodle is why would you even ask that question at all if you alreayd have the answers?

My question is, why did she even send me a friend request in the first place? Why do proenders invade our spaces if they know what they are up against?

Maybe I am just tyring to prove that crossing the road means going across a two way street.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Im a dog chasing cars. I don't know what I would do if I caught one. I just do things.



Well, if you want an answer, you have to ask yourself why are you talking to Analyzer? Do you enjoy feeding that troll?

Why do any of us do anything? Why are we still in this forum? The manga ended, NS isn't canon, so why are we still here?

Entertainment? A challenge? A safe space? What's really gonna bake your noodle is why would you even ask that question at all if you alreayd have the answers?

My question is, why did she even send me a friend request in the first place? Why do proenders invade our spaces if they know what they are up against?

Maybe I am just tyring to prove that crossing the road means going across a two way street.

Well James to answer the first on why we are still here one is because its safe for us to talk about Naruto and the bad that is going on without fear from pro-enders shoving their own will on us and laughing like the children they are.

 

Why do they come here, who knows reallt that is something none of us know, maybe its cause of how bad Bolt is and what a little kitten he is, remember many want to use NS child cause the know he is better than Bolt who had daddy problems, and they keep on saying the same thing as well Hinata is like Chi-chi and Sakura is like Bulma, and now is Sadara is like Videl and Bolt is Gohan. And as a DBZ fan that makes me sick, more so when they say both Sasuke and Vegeta have the same growth.

 

I feel they do it as they know that their great ending is a shame look how many hate Naruto is not there for his wife, and this is just me I think they blame us for what is going on, I could be wrong James again who knows all I know is Boruto is not doing well thanks to people posting raitings, hell the double episodes of Misty and Brock coming back was higher than Boruto what does that say.

 

One punch man, Dragonball Super, One piece all of them are beating Boruto right now, all it has are NH and SS fans

[lupina]

Well, I came back because of Analyzer. The stuff she wrote was so ridiculus, I just couldn't leave it like that.

[ultranx]

I'll just be here watching analyzer's arguments be torn apart and enjoying the gifs while eating popcorn and listening to this music:

 

Edited by ultranx, 13 October 2017 - 11:33 PM.