Jump to content

Close
Photo

The NEW NaruSaku Debate Thread!


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
9679 replies to this topic

#4581 Gravenimage

Gravenimage

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,535 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Pearl Ponce Puerto Rico

Posted 10 July 2011 - 04:23 PM

I doubt Kishi will pull a Digimon 1 he has many it too clear, and too darn obvious that the main pairing is going to be NS. Too much developments and moments that its impossible to ignore ever since he started writing his manga he has shown it all along who will Naruto end up with, since chapter 3 to be exact.

Here's the quote from Naruto in manga ch 3:

"Haruno Sakura a very cute girl I like a lot."

The protagonist has spoken and made it clear who he likes, in this series what the protagonist wants gets. happy.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 July 2011 - 04:24 PM.

Gravenimage

Lone Wolf of the Grave








#4582 Paptala

Paptala

    Examiner

  • Examiner
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,021 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 10 July 2011 - 08:29 PM

There's nothing to worry about in regards to Sakura's VA's comments (though I know that there quite a few who aren't tongue.gif ).

For one thing, she doesn't seem to be exactly fangasming over SasuSaku :
QUOTE
1. On her feelings about Sasusaku - "well,I do not think my opinion matters too much about them but considering some things about it,i can say that sasuke it's too had character to be understanding especially by sakura,because sakura is not always so bad but I can say that i hate when she scream (she talks about how she hates changing her voice in that tone cuz that's not her in real life) ....Coming back to Sasuke and Sakura,recently I was aske by a fan if they will be ever married and it's kinda laugh and I aswered that I don't know,I don't think so but may be will know maybe the producers will make a happy end for Naruto Shippuden and if they're get married will be a surprise for all of us and if they'll have kids,ughh I can't imagine".

She doesn't seem to have too positive an attitude about SS here, but it's pretty vague. Nothing concrete either way.
QUOTE
2. Her feelings about Sakura's "decision" about Sasuke and whether it was valid or not -
"Well,I'm not in her mind to know what she's thinking but it's not valid totally because there is somebody who you may be to know and to come and to change her mind,someone who probably you guys do not expect,but I'm not going to relevant yet to you because are still many news on and also episodes to get to know you who is this person is and what Sakura finally decision."

So Sakura's "decision" about Sasuke isn't valid (which decision exactly is being referred to? That she wanted to kill him? That she loves him? That she wants to believe in "them"?)

Secondly, there is somebody unexpected that is going to change Sakura's mind? Again, change her mind about what exactly? Her feelings for Sasuke? If she's only referring to manga events that haven't been animated yet, and not manga events that haven't been revealed to the general public, then I'd imagine the only person that she could be referring to is the love letter nin (though nobody knew him before so???)
QUOTE
3. Does she have any problems about Sakura's character - "well,I have one if you wonder and that is she's too much into her sasuke after all he did to her and she's little selfish with naruto in my opinion because naruto it's a good and great guy who wanted to help(and he did) sakura and to bring back sasuke to their village,but after all,i think naruto can change his mind about sasuke at one pint after what he and sakura found about sasuke(because they didn't know sasuke was in akatsuki) and even if he helped those guys from Cloud Village to keep sasuke,he just acted beside of them,and he returned to his former thinking about sasuke after all".

She seems to feel that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are a problem with Sakura's character - again, not the characteristic of a person shipping SS. She also seems to favor Naruto over Sasuke, so...

Basically, even though she's saying that what Sakura feels for Naruto is more of friendship at this point, doesn't mean much of anything in the long run. If Sakura's feelings aren't supposed to be obvious yet, than of course nobody who has further information is going to be allowed to give it away like that. And if she doesn't have any further information than the general fandom does, than it's simply her opinion, which she is more than entitled to have and doesn't affect the storyline or NaruSaku's pairing likeliness in the slightest. cool.gif

I just thought it was interesting to hear the VA's thoughts on some matters, and was somewhat pleasantly surprised, considering all I had heard of her was that she's a SasuSaku fan (there was plenty of level headedness in her response, at least in regards to SS imo).

Though she does seem to have a harsher opinion of Sakura than Kishimoto does.

Edited by Paptala, 10 July 2011 - 08:31 PM.

0mDsIUH.gif
7VO00.png
set art by yui  |

#4583 Anguyen92

Anguyen92

    Loving hockey games and Hard Rock Music

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:Reading forums, and listening to hard rock/alt rock music.

Posted 10 July 2011 - 08:52 PM

^^ Well of course, most people would have a harsher opinion of Sakura than Kishi. Now as for everything else, something big needs to happen soon, i don't what but something big. I mean at this stage, no more twist and turns, just straightforward material.

Edited by anguyen92, 10 July 2011 - 08:54 PM.

abiiisig8.jpg

whatcolor_iswhite.jpg


#4584 Fyuria'sLeo

Fyuria'sLeo

    Dork

  • S-Class Missing Nin
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,847 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Boston
  • Interests:Space, Video Games, Drawing, Writing, Science, Reading, Friendship. Mostly things about space.

Posted 10 July 2011 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Jul 10 2011, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^ Well of course, most people would have a harsher opinion of Sakura than Kishi. Now as for everything else, something big needs to happen soon, i don't what but something big. I mean at this stage, no more twist and turns, just straightforward material.

That just ruins the whole thing you need plot to make a story dude.

8c5a9c63d23baf4e9d077bf65597592bb55115a2


#4585 Anguyen92

Anguyen92

    Loving hockey games and Hard Rock Music

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:Reading forums, and listening to hard rock/alt rock music.

Posted 10 July 2011 - 10:21 PM

^^ I just think we've already past the point of twist and turns for the pairings, but who know there might be more, that might tests the readers. Nothing wrong with that though.

Edited by anguyen92, 10 July 2011 - 10:22 PM.

abiiisig8.jpg

whatcolor_iswhite.jpg


#4586 bthug

bthug

    Special Jounin

  • Special Jounin
  • PipPipPip
  • 866 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 July 2011 - 12:33 AM

u know I think we overlooked is chapter 540. We all assume/believe that she was think about him in a negative light. But that's it it certainily will be brought up again we need an actual reason from Sakura as to why it was sasuke picture and why it was in one of a negative light. So I think its save to say that 540 will be brought up again.

#4587 Super Boom

Super Boom

    WC?

  • Elite Teacher
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,294 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:MN

Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:18 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 10 2011, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
She seems to feel that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are a problem with Sakura's character - again, not the characteristic of a person shipping SS. She also seems to favor Naruto over Sasuke, so...

Basically, even though she's saying that what Sakura feels for Naruto is more of friendship at this point, doesn't mean much of anything in the long run. If Sakura's feelings aren't supposed to be obvious yet, than of course nobody who has further information is going to be allowed to give it away like that. And if she doesn't have any further information than the general fandom does, than it's simply her opinion, which she is more than entitled to have and doesn't affect the storyline or NaruSaku's pairing likeliness in the slightest. cool.gif

I just thought it was interesting to hear the VA's thoughts on some matters, and was somewhat pleasantly surprised, considering all I had heard of her was that she's a SasuSaku fan (there was plenty of level headedness in her response, at least in regards to SS imo).

Though she does seem to have a harsher opinion of Sakura than Kishimoto does.


Well stated, as usual, Paptala. happy.gif

I guess reading some other quotes from Nakamura (I think that's her name) kind of makes me think she doesn't really ship SasuSaku, but is trying not to divulge anything to the anime-only fans. I guess that makes sense, since I'm guessing some fans, even in Japan, don't read the manga. And I might have mentioned it earlier, but Kishi sort of left us on a SasuSaku cliff-hanger in 482 (for some people anyway), so it might be the case that she's just going with the suspense being creating in the manga.
Though even if she is a SasuSaku fan, she seems pretty understanding as far as shipping goes. I have a good feeling that, when NaruSaku happens in the manga, her voice acting in the anime version of that scene won't sound forced. At least I hope not.

QUOTE (bthug @ Jul 10 2011, 07:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
u know I think we overlooked is chapter 540. We all assume/believe that she was think about him in a negative light. But that's it it certainily will be brought up again we need an actual reason from Sakura as to why it was sasuke picture and why it was in one of a negative light. So I think its save to say that 540 will be brought up again.


EXACTLY. The scene doesn't really function as a stand-alone panel. If it did, then it's basically like Kishi introduced a new character (love letter nin), donated like 5 or 6 panels of his precious manga to him, and then used him for the sole purpose of reinforcing a character's previously established feelings. Even looking at that unbias, something about that just seems like bad writing to me, both in terms of Sakura's development and the overall story. Which is why I feel like it would more in Kishi's MO to bring the scene up again. I have a good feeling that whole scenario is eventually going to be used to resolve Sakura's feelings once and for all.

tumblr_ndajpwG2zQ1qitrvro1_500.gif


#4588 Anguyen92

Anguyen92

    Loving hockey games and Hard Rock Music

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:Reading forums, and listening to hard rock/alt rock music.

Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jul 10 2011, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
u know I think we overlooked is chapter 540. We all assume/believe that she was think about him in a negative light. But that's it it certainily will be brought up again we need an actual reason from Sakura as to why it was sasuke picture and why it was in one of a negative light. So I think its save to say that 540 will be brought up again.


Sigh...., another issue that needs to be talked about in naruto and sakura's next conversation, it's all piling up ehhhh. I just hope both of them look good at the end of that, and build on something big.

abiiisig8.jpg

whatcolor_iswhite.jpg


#4589 Phantom_999

Phantom_999

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,003 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Canada

Posted 11 July 2011 - 01:42 AM

a_plotting.gif Hmm Oh well More closure for them I guess if it comes up anyway

3fbe3276d61acb2079b56cd2212a341c14963200


#4590 bthug

bthug

    Special Jounin

  • Special Jounin
  • PipPipPip
  • 866 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 July 2011 - 04:17 AM

I'm willing to bet anything that it will be brought up and be used in a much bigger fashion. Like boom winning said too much went into this for it to end like that. I see it bringing Naruto into the equation and most likely the lover ninja.

Edited by bthug, 11 July 2011 - 04:18 AM.


#4591 Darth Krypt

Darth Krypt

    Sith Lord

  • Jounin
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,559 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Raftel

Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:30 AM

Haha so the panel that causes widespread panic on the NS ship would end up saving them. I like that. a_thumbs.gif

DK

PgkbwAs.png


#4592 Haaky

Haaky

    Rookie

  • Rookie
  • Pip
  • 63 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 July 2011 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Jul 10 2011, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I know the pain of Mattora Guys! arg.gif DARN LIE WE"VE BEEN FED!!!!!! rawr.gif rawr.gif there WAS no Taiora! those idiot american dubbers were Playing us! rawr.gif in the original Japanese script Tai was supposed to help Sora confess not ask her out! LIES I TELL YOU!!!! LIES!!!! rawr.gif

Okay moving on I found something interesting here:

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Naruto

read the shipping part if you did not know about the general shippings already although you might not like what you see down.gif BUT HAVE FAITH!!! cool.gif Oh! and there is this one too(but you can find it on my most recent post on Hinata's Popularity thread in the Naruto general)

http://fanlore.org/wiki/Big_3


Damnnnn, I can't belive SasuSaku is STILL the most suported pairing.
When someone is trying to kill you twice you DON'T forgive them. I hope Kishimoto
follows his own heart when it comes to pairings and not just do what his dumb fans
wants him to do. And it's pretty obvious what is Kishimotos favorite pairing now
isn't it? ^^,
The favorite AMV I made below, dedicated to this forum:


I'm sure it's nothing but a coincidence...

#4593 Anguyen92

Anguyen92

    Loving hockey games and Hard Rock Music

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:Reading forums, and listening to hard rock/alt rock music.

Posted 11 July 2011 - 02:48 PM

^^ I sure hope so. I thnk he really mapped out everything since the start of part 2 and it's just a waiting game, pressumably with more twists and turns that doesn't get overused.

abiiisig8.jpg

whatcolor_iswhite.jpg


#4594 rastaman

rastaman

    Rookie

  • Rookie
  • Pip
  • 83 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Germany

Posted 11 July 2011 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Haaky @ Jul 11 2011, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damnnnn, I can't belive SasuSaku is STILL the most suported pairing.
When someone is trying to kill you twice you DON'T forgive them. I hope Kishimoto
follows his own heart when it comes to pairings and not just do what his dumb fans
wants him to do. And it's pretty obvious what is Kishimotos favorite pairing now
isn't it? ^^,


I'd really like to know which pairing has the majority in Japan. I mean are there polls or something that show the percentage of people expecting/favoring one pairing?
And yes, you don't forgive anyone trying to kill you. The only argument SS fans could have against this logic consideration is the fact that Madara is definitely manipulating Sasuke. But Sasuke knows that Itachi wanted to keep him away from Madara. Thus Sasuke is acting on his own intentions.

#4595 Gravenimage

Gravenimage

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kyuubi
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,535 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:South Pearl Ponce Puerto Rico

Posted 11 July 2011 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (rastaman @ Jul 11 2011, 08:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd really like to know which pairing has the majority in Japan. I mean are there polls or something that show the percentage of people expecting/favoring one pairing?
And yes, you don't forgive anyone trying to kill you. The only argument SS fans could have against this logic consideration is the fact that Madara is definitely manipulating Sasuke. But Sasuke knows that Itachi wanted to keep him away from Madara. Thus Sasuke is acting on his own intentions.


Most favorite pairings in Japan are yaoi pairings yup Kakashi/Iruka and Naruto/Sasuke after that its Naru/Saku and Sasu/Saku.
Gravenimage

Lone Wolf of the Grave








#4596 Nate River

Nate River

    Heaven and Earth Deity

  • Kage
  • 5,982 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 July 2011 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 11 2011, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most favorite pairings in Japan are yaoi pairings yup Kakashi/Iruka and Naruto/Sasuke after that its Naru/Saku and Sasu/Saku.


I don't think it's close either. I think Kaka/Iruka blows everything out of the water. I think our Hinata populatiry thread could apply here. Naruto and Sasuke at least interact and also follow a really common yaoi template with the rivals theme, I don't get Kakashi/Iruka's popularity.

#4597 Anguyen92

Anguyen92

    Loving hockey games and Hard Rock Music

  • Summoning Master
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,336 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:California
  • Interests:Reading forums, and listening to hard rock/alt rock music.

Posted 11 July 2011 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jul 11 2011, 09:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most favorite pairings in Japan are yaoi pairings yup Kakashi/Iruka and Naruto/Sasuke after that its Naru/Saku and Sasu/Saku.


(sips water and then spit it out....), honestly wtf is going on here, i could understand naruto and sasuke, but kakashi and iruka really? Does anyone ever follow canon logic and not make their own personal assumptions on the basis of what they want? Well, I guess that's the point of fandom. I just don't get it.

Edited by anguyen92, 11 July 2011 - 05:18 PM.

abiiisig8.jpg

whatcolor_iswhite.jpg


#4598 tricksie

tricksie

    Legendary Ninja

  • ANBU
  • 3,657 posts
  • Gender:Female

Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:22 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jul 11 2011, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm willing to bet anything that it will be brought up and be used in a much bigger fashion. Like boom winning said too much went into this for it to end like that. I see it bringing Naruto into the equation and most likely the lover ninja.

I agree. He may be the 'patsy' that helps set up the N/S final moments. Or heightens some tension in the mean time. Sai has already done his job for N/S, and Yamato is MIA, so there is no one else closely involved who is likely to say anything to drive the two closer together.

And the guy's presence is too conspicuous. If you take the Lover Nin out of the equation, she still could have had the memory of Sasuke, etc. etc. So why put the anonymous Lover Nin in for no reason?

#4599 bthug

bthug

    Special Jounin

  • Special Jounin
  • PipPipPip
  • 866 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Jul 11 2011, 03:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Haha so the panel that causes widespread panic on the NS ship would end up saving them. I like that. a_thumbs.gif

Yep makes for great writing

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 11 2011, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. He may be the 'patsy' that helps set up the N/S final moments. Or heightens some tension in the mean time. Sai has already done his job for N/S, and Yamato is MIA, so there is no one else closely involved who is likely to say anything to drive the two closer together.

And the guy's presence is too conspicuous. If you take the Lover Nin out of the equation, she still could have had the memory of Sasuke, etc. etc. So why put the anonymous Lover Nin in for no reason?

Exactly that mans role is likely going to expand even if all he says is...."oh so he must be the lucky one, I can see why Sakura"


As for the Kakashi and Iruka thats just ppl being annoying and same goes for Naruto and sasuke their just friends and both are just emo.
I cant fathom how someone could support sasuke and sakura...sasuke is EVIL, tried to KILL her, and NARUTO, abandoned the village, Im sorry I just dont get it.
You would think everyone would pull for the underdog (Naruto) I mean that is the essence of this manga/anime.

#4600 Guest_Kim_*

Guest_Kim_*
  • Guests

Posted 11 July 2011 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jul 11 2011, 08:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree. He may be the 'patsy' that helps set up the N/S final moments. Or heightens some tension in the mean time. Sai has already done his job for N/S, and Yamato is MIA, so there is no one else closely involved who is likely to say anything to drive the two closer together.

And the guy's presence is too conspicuous. If you take the Lover Nin out of the equation, she still could have had the memory of Sasuke, etc. etc. So why put the anonymous Lover Nin in for no reason?


Exactly, and the love letter, don't forget the love letter! I know I've mentioned this millions of times but I strongly believe he and the letter will play some kind of role.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users