
*The* Bleach Discussion Thread
#441
Posted 20 February 2009 - 11:13 PM

#442
Posted 27 February 2009 - 06:46 AM
Ichigo is getting pwned! If he wins without much help Kubo better make it look believable.
#443
Posted 27 February 2009 - 06:58 AM
I also get this feeling Orihime is gonna help out somehow, and perhaps also heal Ichigo so that he can still keep going, in spite of what just happened. After all, she wants to go there, and I'm sure she wants to help Ichigo, rather than just stand by and do nothing. Plus she has grown a lot stronger and more confident.
Besides, I want her to let her words pump Ichigo up again, like with Grimmjow, since she is able to not berate Ichigo then turn around and worry about him incessently like Rukia has sorta become after the mess in the Soul Society....
Bryon
#444
Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:34 AM
Not only Naruto is crazy but also Bleach as well! I sure hope Orihime knows whats she's doing when she reaches to Ichigo and Ulquiorra. And Ichigo is in trouble, hopefully he will defeat Ulquiorra.
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#445
Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:40 AM
Not only Naruto is crazy but also Bleach as well! I sure hope Orihime knows whats she's doing when she reaches to Ichigo and Ulquiorra. And Ichigo is in trouble, hopefully he will defeat Ulquiorra.
Derock, I get the feeling she will.

Bryon
#446
Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:19 AM
But ignoring that, I found something interesting in this chapter.
Ulquiorra yells at Ichigo.
Yells. Loudly.
I do believe this is the first time we've ever seen him show such emotion. Which is either very good, or very, very bad.
Either way, it'll be fun to watch it play out.

#447
Posted 27 February 2009 - 08:49 AM
Btw I thought this looked exactly like Shirosaki once Ichigo took the full blast of the black cero.

He must look like that under the mask.
And seriously that black cero is kittening dangerous. God damn thing blew away HALF the dome. Christ that must be powerful.
Also I think there is more to this fight. I kinda feel as if Aizen doesn't want anybody to kill Ichigo. I mean Ulquiorra could have easily done so by now if he wanted. He didn't even have to release his full form which he has. Maybe he is being used to break Ichigo's spirit. First he taunted him into attacking to show that he couldn't hurt Ulquiorra and now he is taking the full front of his power and can't handle it. He got so far as being frustrated that he uncharacteristically yelled at him. I think Aizen used his most loyal and obedient servant to keep Ichigo in line and break his resolve, which as we see in this chapter isn't happening.
Also the Ishida/Orihime interaction in the beginning seems to be as if future tense since Ishida says he regrets his decision to take Orihime up to them. Orihime turning into Hinata of Bleach? That could be serious trouble since Ichigo doesn't want any interference in his fight and now that he has taken some serious damage I'd think his pride won't let anyone come to his aid. This is his fight and he is going to win it alone one way or another.
#449
Posted 27 February 2009 - 02:35 PM
I can't see Ichigo winning at all.
#450
Posted 28 February 2009 - 02:02 AM
Then we have Orihime and Uryu. Orihime seems to be putting her concern for Ichigo over her own (again). Gah, I think I can see why the call this chapter "The Lust" again for multiple meanings. Uryu wanted to keep Orihime safe from harm, thinking of her. In turn, Orihime wanted to go see Ichigo. Okay, that's not exactly Lust, but it kind of relates to the idea of people desiring others.
#451
Posted 28 February 2009 - 02:24 AM

Of course, she's in love

You know, Ulquiorra really is a solemn person isn't he? Though this is enticing, yet another transformation! Ichigo is all determination and painful perseverance, saying the same stuff he says every fight. With Ulquiorra ready to do some big, psych out attack, I am still wondering, even with his never ending "I will defeat you!" resolve, how is Ichigo going to survive this?

#452
Posted 28 February 2009 - 04:45 AM
Ulquiorra, I think, is doing all of this for his own purposes and not for Aizen. Ever since bringing Orihime to Las Noches, he has been curious about human nature, and more specifically, the bonds created between people. This battle has turned into a battle of character rather than skill. Ulquiorra is obviously hopelessly stronger than Ichigo, but I don't think that is what will determine the outcome. I think this battle will be decided by the one with the strongest understanding of who they are. Ichigo, finally, seems to be returning to who he is, with his determination to not back down no matter what. Ulquiorra however, is fighting against admitting that he is not so different than a human. By stating that a human will never be as strong as a hollow, he is, in effect, saying he cannot possibly be human because of his great difference in power. And so, while Ichigo seems to becoming more sure of who he is, Ulquiorra is desperately trying to deny himself. His frustration is clearly evident by his yelling at Ichigo, which is more emotion than we have seen from him, aside from when he broke the ground in two with his sword after being called 'more human'. I think, even though Ichigo is getting the crap beat out of him, he is gaining the upperhand mentally.
I am interested to know what kind of despair Ulquiorra has felt. Perhaps he is trying to convey the difference between Ichigo and himself is the same as the difference between himself and Aizen. Therefore, Ulquiorra sees himself in Ichigo, though Ichigo is a completely different person who holds great importance in bonds and might therefore be stronger than him because of his nakama.
I do hope Ulquiorra and Orihime have some resolving of their differences too, because it is obvious that Orihime has brought about this initial change in character for Ulquiorra, and it was she who first introduced the power of the heart to him.
#453
Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:12 AM
#455
Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:29 AM
#456
Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:29 AM
And that last page? Man that is insane. Ichigo is seriously screwed right now. Viable powerup is needed as since he is close to death its time to visit his inner world.

^Notice half his mask turned completely black.

Remember the last time he had a huge hole in his chest?
I think the horse is about to buck the King off.
#457
Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:51 AM
And that last page? Man that is insane. Ichigo is seriously screwed right now. Viable powerup is needed as since he is close to death its time to visit his inner world.

^Notice half his mask turned completely black.

Remember the last time he had a huge hole in his chest?
I think the horse is about to buck the King off.
Yeah. But if you aslo ask me, it's somewhat Hollow Ichigo and Zangetsu's fault Ichigo's in this boat since they helped him come to think he HAS to win no matter what. So it's their fault that Ichigo hasn't realized he could become stronger just from wanting to protect people just as he has done early on. Then again, Mr. Kubo hasn't really done much to make Ichigo's character better. And I know Ichigo also brought this on himself too. Since he seems to have forgotten that he became stronger because of his will to protect people but to still do it his way. I hope he can remember that without needing Hollow Ichigo to come out again.
Bryon
Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 06 March 2009 - 03:13 PM.
#458
Posted 06 March 2009 - 04:42 PM
Ichigo is in trouble. I hope he doesn't die.
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#459
Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:07 PM
She'll save him some way or another... how, we'll just have to wait and see!

#460
Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:32 PM
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