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[rocci]

I think the idea of bell test is to snatch madara rinnegan from his face.
It turn out to be the idea come from second hokage since he hate madara.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Man, if I can use a token of a fake chapter, I would have Kakashi make a cool speech, only to die in a instant by Madara. Naruto go "Good work, team!"

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'm sure it's not the real raw version. because with this it's really pro SS and the translation would have been completely different, especially if you consider that most of the japanese and western fans are pro SS. If it was like this the translation would hve been:

"And Sakura, since tht time, your thoughts concerning Sasuke aren't the same anymore. Even if your love for him is the same, your thoughts about him are different."

I will say wait foe the real raw friday. Because as I said, it would be real that all the translator made of a pro SS moment an anti SS moment. 

 

No LadyGT: In this 'raw' it's clearly pro SS moment: the word 思い has a more 'thought' meaning, even if it also means feelings, but it's more like feelings of trust, thought etc... while if it was romantic feeling, it would have been 気持ち

And if this raw was true, then Kakashi would have said she hfeels the same love for Sasuke. 

I'm really doubtful about it, especially when it comes from a SS/NH tumblr.

 

And I think I know where they got the rawws, japaneses fans tend to post a script of the chapter on the net, but it's not always the exact same words, so adding the fact japanese are big SS fans, you get what I mean...

 

Just as i thought. Thanks and you must be from Japan or be able to understand Japanese? And i got another translation from a pro SS fan.

 

 

Here's another  :

 

そしてサクラ　
sokittene Sakura

あの時とサスケに対する思いは　違うだろう
ano toki to Sasuke ni tai suru omoi wa chigau darō

同じ好きでも　その思いは　別のものだ
onaji suki demo sono omoi wa betsu no mono da

命を狙われた相手を今だに思う
inochi o nerawareta aite o ima dani omou

何があろうと　好いていたサスケを切り捨てず　
nani ga arō to suite ita Sasuke o kirisutezu

サスケを闇から救うのは自分の役目だと思っている
Sasuke o yami kara sukuu no wa jibun no yakume da to omotte iru

Which translates to:

"and Sakura
what you felt for Sasuke back then has changed, hasn’t it?
though you still like him just the same, there’s something different about your feelings
even now you still care about someone who tried to take your life
no matter what happens, you won’t discard Sasuke whom you love
and you feel it’s your duty to save Sasuke from darkness"

Translator: kagurapb

 

 

Does it seem like the raw has been tampered here too?

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 08 May 2014 - 04:07 AM.

[咲耶姫]

 

Just as i thought. Thanks and you must be from Japan or be able to understand Japanese? And i got another translation from a pro SS fan.

 

 

Does it seem like the raw has been tampered here too?

I'm talking japanese.

And it's the same you already posted before and like megi said, there is no raw out yet. It's just japanese translations of the script from the english translation. So it's not the official raw. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 08 May 2014 - 04:15 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'm talking japanese.

And it's the same you already posted before and like megi said, there is no raw out yet. It's just Japanese translations of the script from the English translation. So it's not the official raw. 

 

I thought the raw comes out before the translated content Did they changed it up?

[咲耶姫]

 

I thought the raw comes out before the translated content Did they changed it up?

No the raw always come after the english translation. It's released on friday.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I mean is that this chapter is like the end of many things, so twists and turns start to happen tenfold. Honestly, this can't get any worse.

I may have jinxed that for SS...

 

How does this relate to fakes spreading around though?

 

The way it's being portrayed, Madara seems like he will go down as a villain, not "wait...I should rethink." This guy already lost it. He blew his chances, much like how Frieza once got one last chance to walk away but decided to strike back, only to get killed by Goku. God, that should have been the ending. Thank you, fans...Anyway, no, Madara seems like he will go down a villainy way. I can see Hashirama only wishing a different path but all too late.

 

Well, some believe Sasuke already crossed his moral event horizon by stabbing Karin, but we all know better to think he'll die a villain.  Anyway, I agree that in the end Madara will go down, but maybe, Naruto is able to understand him in someway, before he goes, like with Nagato.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 08 May 2014 - 04:33 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

No the raw always come after the english translation. It's released on friday.

 

Lol, my mind has been backwards all this time. Thanks for the info and be more happy if you translate the raw when it comes out Friday. 

[thgt89]

The chapter was decent. I did really like how Madara was confirmed to truly be a sinister villain who was willing to set up Rins death just to accomplish his plans and that it was all a setup. It really shows how sinister he is and makes him look like a true villain. Obito was simply a tool even though that in no way absolves Obito of his terrible actions he still did on his own.

 

What I did not like is that Sakura once again got shafted and made to look bad. She just get's saved like that without even knowing what happened. I was hoping for her having some important role in the Kamui dimension but nope she failed miserably to destroy the rinnegan even though plot would have never let that happen. Then she tries to help Kakashi but can't do anything and Naruto simply pushes her out of the way and was like watch how healing is really done even though you trained for years for it and I didn't and I have no idea how I am doing this but I am showing you up anyway. 

 

The problem is simple with this. In most team everyone has a role and even if some are stronger than others they all have unique abilities that contribute like Ino-Shika-Sho. Healing is the one thing Sakura had that no one else could do and Naruto helping out Shikamaru, Gai, and now making Kakashi a new eye makes me wonder what  can she even contribute.

 

Kakashi team seven flashback while kind of nostalgic was like Naruto you have all but accomplished your dream and have surpassed Hokage, Sasuke you got your revenge and have new unknown objectives, while with Sakura it was like you used to have a immature crush on some boy and now your feeling may of somewhat changes or whatever. Can you not see how bad her goals Kakashi reflects on makes her look compared to the others?

 

Kakashi keeps putting Sakura in situations we hope leads to something and keeps making her look bad. Now at the end Kishi talks about teamwork but what can Sakura and even Kakashi actually do. Madara as well as Naruto and Sasuke are so far out of her league it is laughable. If this fight were a basketball game Sasuke and Naruto would be Lebron and Durant while Sakura would be a five year old little girl. She obviously needs a massive power up to even contribute somewhat and while I do hold out hope Kishi can give her something that makes her look good knowing how he writes I cannot count on it.

 

About pairing it to me is too vague to take anything from it and really changes nothing.

Edited by thgt89, 08 May 2014 - 04:38 AM.

[Hiraishin]

It's interesting that Kishi stopped Kakashi's flashback of Sakura where he did. Both the flashbacks of Naruto and Sasuke included their dislikes, while Sakura's didn't. She said she liked Sasuke (well, implied it) and hated Naruto, but here Kakashi only (and directly) discusses how her feelings for Sasuke changed. If he were to talk about how her feelings towards Naruto have changed, we all know what he would say obviously, but Kishi continues to dance around any direct confirmation of Sakura's feelings for Naruto (we have more than enough hints and evidence to know what they are, but not direct confirmation of change like we have of Sakura->Sasuke in this chapter). He's taking this one step at a time: direct confirmation of Sakura no longer being in love with Sasuke, and later, we'll have the same for Sakura being in love with Naruto.

 

Oh, and I kind of agree with tricksie's thoughts on Kakashi and Sakura. Like... yeah, it does make sense that he focused solely on her feelings for Sasuke because that's mostly what she talked about in her introduction, but at the same time it wouldn't have hurt for him to be like, "Instead of only focusing on one thing like you used to, you've grown up to be a caring, strong kunoichi," or something like that, idk lmao. But at the same time Kakashi has always focused on training Sasuke and Naruto, never Sakura so I guess it shouldn't be much of a surprise.

Edited by Hiraishin, 08 May 2014 - 04:44 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

How does this relate to fakes spreading around though?

Oh sorry. I mean that we're going through fake script based on the chapter that is already released. It's...new to me.

[James S Cassidy]

People were constantly whining because according to their opinion, Kishi made Sakura "only about healing". Well she will do something else now. She will fight. Aren't you happy ? Moreover, Naruto fixed Kakashi so they will be able to fight with their sensei ! He wouldn't have been able to fight in the state he was into and no medic could have been able to recreate his eye.

 

Forget it, Otaru. People will never be happy with Sakura, even from here. Hell, Kishi gave her a new power-up and people still complained because "It wasn't explained enough and we never saw her train for it." Kishimoto could give her a super awesome power-up that makes her stronger than Naruto and Sasuke, revive the dead on command, punch out Madara, save the day, and make Naruto Hokage while casting Sasuke out of existence and...they will still find fault with it.

 

I do not know what people expect from Sakura. I don't know what they want from her, but it seems like all Naruto needs to do is breathe and supposedly he is "taking Sakura's role." It's a broken record now.
 

How about instead of Naruto taking Sakura's role, Sasuke is taking Sakura's role by forcing his relevance into the plot?

 

 

The way it's being portrayed, Madara seems like he will go down as a villain, not "wait...I should rethink." This guy already lost it. He blew his chances, much like how Frieza once got one last chance to walk away but decided to strike back, only to get killed by Goku. God, that should have been the ending. Thank you, fans...Anyway, no, Madara seems like he will go down a villainy way. I can see Hashirama only wishing a different path but all too late.

 

Actually, funny enough, if you think about it Goku never technically killed Frieza. That was Trunks. Sure, Goku defeated Frieza, but he came back to fight another day.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, some believe Sasuke already crossed his moral event horizon by stabbing Karin, but we all know better to think he'll die a villain.  Anyway, I agree that in the end Madara will go down, but maybe, Naruto is able to understand him in someway, before he goes, like with Nagato.

Sasuke did but at least he has reality sense. Madara lost all of that and knows it. He threw everything to believe in anything. Hell, he listened to a voice that tells him to absorb the tree but doesn't know who said that, yet still feel great to gain the power that he's one step ahead to get total domination. I mean it's possible for understanding, but if that voice can control, Madara will literally be a former shell of himself.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually, funny enough, if you think about it Goku never technically killed Frieza. That was Trunks. Sure, Goku defeated Frieza, but he came back to fight another day.

Hence, the reason why I said, "Thank you, fans." If Frieza saga was the last, that would have been his death. But nope, cop out to bring out Cyborg Frieza, just to demonstrate Trunks being top tier. Cool but yeah...

[DattebayoXShannaro]

Oh sorry. I mean that we're going through fake script based on the chapter that is already released. It's...new to me.

 

No problem.  Thanks for answering.  I understand the desire to confirm what Kakashi said about Sakura though.  The translation is already clear in my opinion, but it doesn't hurt to be completely sure.

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 08 May 2014 - 05:35 AM.

[Gojira]

I still don't see any difference there to be honest.

the difference I'm guessing as in that post its implying she still loves him but is just cautious of him because well...he's psychotic

[James S Cassidy]

Hence, the reason why I said, "Thank you, fans." If Frieza saga was the last, that would have been his death. But nope, cop out to bring out Cyborg Frieza, just to demonstrate Trunks being top tier. Cool but yeah...

 

What really makes me go "WTF?" is how Dr. Gero can turn both himself and make several androids and Cell that are 100-1000 times more powerful than Frieza ever could be. Frieza who, in the the arc just before the android saga, was said to be the most powerful being in the universe and that only a legendary being can beat him.

Who needs Goku when Dr. Gero created beings that far surpassed every DBZ character in the entire show?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 08 May 2014 - 05:41 AM.

[Gojira]

What really makes me go "WTF?" is how Dr. Gero can turn both himself and make several androids and Cell that are 100-1000 times more powerful than Frieza ever could be. Frieza who, in the the arc just before the android saga, was said to be the most powerful being in the universe and that only a legendary being can beat him.

Who needs Goku when Dr. Gero created beings that far surpassed every DBZ character in the entire show?

Not to mention said Androids would have been really kittening useful when Goku was tearing the entire RR army a new a**hole.

Also Madara will get a TNJ, I just can't picture a character in this series who is revealed to have been good at some point not get atleast a little bit of TNJ though Madara will still likely end up dying as an a**hole.

After all in Naruto you either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero.

No the raw always come after the english translation. It's released on friday.

Where exactly is it released?

Edited by Pepsi, 08 May 2014 - 06:00 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Forget it, Otaru. People will never be happy with Sakura, even from here. Hell, Kishi gave her a new power-up and people still complained because "It wasn't explained enough and we never saw her train for it." Kishimoto could give her a super awesome power-up that makes her stronger than Naruto and Sasuke, revive the dead on command, punch out Madara, save the day, and make Naruto Hokage while casting Sasuke out of existence and...they will still find fault with it.

I wasn't one of the people who were unhappy with her power-up in chapter 632. People said it was an ass-pull even though she trained three years for it but those same people were happy with Naruto's recent power-ups. That's a double standard. Either they be disappointed with all Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura's power-ups or they admit that Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura's power-ups are great. 

I do not know what people expect from Sakura. I don't know what they want from her, but it seems like all Naruto needs to do is breathe and supposedly he is "taking Sakura's role." It's a broken record now.

You are purposefully twisting people's words. Please look back at the posts. Where did people say, "Naruto is breathing he is taking out Sakura's role!"? I would appreciate it if you would try to play a fair game and convince them instead of attacking them indirectly with false accusations, sarcasm or taunts. If you can't convince them, then stop trying to ridicule their posts in the first place. 

 

Also, people have been raging in this thread when Naruto and Sasuke both got the "hero" status. People were whining that Naruto had to work hard for it while Sasuke just got it handed to him in the silver platter. It might come off as a surprise to you, but the people who are now annoyed at Naruto, are annoyed in him for the exact same reason people were annoyed at Sasuke a few chapters ago. 

How about instead of Naruto taking Sakura's role, Sasuke is taking Sakura's role by forcing his relevance into the plot?

Sasuke is relevant to the main plot in a way that until recently I thought the manga should be re-named "Sasuke". I'm sure people were complaining that Sasuke was taking away the role from Naruto. 

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 08 May 2014 - 06:14 AM.

[咲耶姫]

Not to mention said Androids would have been really kittening useful when Goku was tearing the entire RR army a new a**hole.

Also Madara will get a TNJ, I just can't picture a character in this series who is revealed to have been good at some point not get atleast a little bit of TNJ though Madara will still likely end up dying as an a**hole.

After all in Naruto you either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero.


Where exactly is it released?

You have to ask megi where she download them. I'm always waiting for the scans release on mangahead. So I never get them on friday like megi, but later on.