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[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Japan.

Game of Thrones.

[Chatte]

If Tsunade dies, Sakura development?

Kishi plz.

I've been waiting for this every since Shippuden start... It would've been nice for Sakura to stay in the same action area as then, unfortunately, she was really put back.
Not to mention that all that she has is basic healing jutsu, nothing more. I mean, no foreshadowing that she's going to be a next Tsunade...
Not to mention that people say she'll never be because she's a normal girl, not a half Senju, half Uzumaki which makes Tsunade so badass and highly resistant and large chakra pools.

[luffyq1]

Game of Thrones.

lol fair enough

[Nefertieh]

And context as well. Naruto and Sasuke have platonic bond. Hinata, we know this for sure, is in love with Naruto. When girl who is in love with you wants to hold hands, the meaning is pretty different than if your mom wants hold your hand. Or at least I hope so.

[luffyq1]

If Tsunade dies, Sakura development?

Kishi plz.

I have a huge crush on Tsunade so part of me wants her to live.

[Don-kun]

I've been waiting for this every since Shippuden start... It would've been nice for Sakura to stay in the same action area as then, unfortunately, she was really put back.
Not to mention that all that she has is basic healing jutsu, nothing more. I mean, no foreshadowing that she's going to be a next Tsunade...
Not to mention that people say she'll never be because she's a normal girl, not a half Senju, half Uzumaki which makes Tsunade so badass and highly resistant and large chakra pools.

Sorry I might sound rude, but trust me I'm not trying to be rude, I will only ask you to back of from that thought since Kishi made many foreshadowing about Sakura being powerful in the future, once by Kakashi at the start of the manga by saying that she has genjutsu skills, again by Kakashi saying that she will surpase Tsunade and finally by Chiyo stating that she will surpase Tsunade.
The only problem I see here is Kishi failing to fallow up with what he already hinted.

[Chatte]

I have a huge crush on Tsunade so part of me wants her to live.

Why you resemble me so much?? Tsunade is my other fav. after Sakura. I mean, they both share my no. 1 spot and it's so hard to accept her death.

Sorry I might sound rude, but trust me I'm not trying to be rude, I will only ask you to back of from that thought since Kishi made many foreshadowing about Sakura being powerful in the future, once by Kakashi at the start of the manga by saying that she has genjutsu skills, again by Kakashi saying that she will surpase Tsunade and finally by Chiyo stating that she will surpase Tsunade.
The only problem I see here is Kishi failing to fallow up with what he already hinted.

No, don't worry, you didn't sound rude at all and I know about the foreshadowing that's why I've been waiting. We have Kakash stating that and only imagining to be a good medic/tank like Tsunade is with those genjutsu abilities already my heads starts spinning round, however, seeing that Kishi doesn't do anything, it's kinda... sad.
Not to mention if I look at the drawings back in Part 1... Everything for Sasuke/Naruto/Kakashi have been some way or another transformed to cannon, only Sakura...nothing. No Slugs, no axes, no knife, whereas Naruto's scrolls have been present, Sasuke's mangekyo and gourd and that flute, Sasuke with his only scroll but Sakura... Sakura nothing.
It hurts to see so much potential being trashed away... I know I sound negative, but for a bit, try to be me, a Sakura fan that has been waiting for years for something, yet, all that we kinda got was nothing of that kind, only romantic involvement.
I don't want her to be just a...how people would call her "pairing fodder".
To me, she means much more than that.

[KnS]

Finnaly a very good post.
It's a time for hinata to grow for her own and become strong not for naruto but to assume the leadership of her clan.
I think kishimoto will make hinata obssession for naruto stop.

Thanks, man. And yes, yes, yes to Hinata moving forward in her own, positive direction.

Perfectly put. So true. And it really helps bring into perspective Hinata's hero worship as her personal thing to overcome. Neji's death may be the catalyst that helps her "grow up" into her role as Hyuga head.

In all honesty, it was my immediate impression even upon reading the early spoilers. After reading the chapter, and thinking it through to make my wall-of-text post, it's the only thing that makes sense to me.

But Obito seems to have a personal vendetta. To that end, he wants to make people suffer. With the parallels in the team stories, and Obito's lust for despair, it seems reasonable that something could happen to Sakura and/or Kakashi.

Exactly. Who knows if it will happen for sure, or if it does how it will, but I can see Obito pouring fuel on the fire trying to break Naruto's spirit.

@KnS

You, my friend, have just made a post full of epic win.

That's precisely what I'm hoping to see from Hinata in the next chapters. I want her attitude to go from the timid girl she always is to one that if full of resolve so that she doesn't let Neji's sacrifice go in vain.

Thanks! I have never been able to relate to Hinata, nor do I find anything realistic or interesting about her, but she is nevertheless a nice girl. I really want to see her become the leader of her clan, a strong person capable of standing on her own -- and not defined entirely by her crush on a boy who appears destined to be with another girl. As I said, I want to think that's exactly what Kishimoto is shooting for with Neji's death.

This thread has gone way off topic for several pages now, and maybe no one is interested in talking about the chapter. But I'm still thinking about all the other stuff that happened so forgive me.

Obito said, "Next... we slowly cripple them with despair." Then he did the Mokuton piercing element and Neji died from it. Is that it? Or is there more "crippling despair" and death ahead?

What is Naruto's next move going to be? Will Obito target someone else? Will Sakura make it to Naruto to see if anything can be done for Neji? Will she heal Naruto's shoulder? I'm really curious where people think all this is going next....

Edited by KnS, 20 December 2012 - 05:51 AM.

[Chatte]

Well, I am more curious about what is happening to the Kages, to be honest, Sakura's and Naruto's reaction if Tsunade dies. And also if finally Sakura will get to Naruto, it's the third time Kishi postpones their interaction...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Is it wrong that I felt absolutely nothing when Neji died? Am I a monster?

God help me!

Because neji was a underdeveloped character, there was any better character for kishi to kill

[neoshadow]

Something I really want to know is how Naruto is going to take this, during the Kage Summit and his fight with Sasuke (at least I think it was there) Naruto mentioned how can he be considered for Hokage if he can't even save his friend, meaning Sasuke. It's obvious that he holds his friends in high regard considering how willing he is to shoulder everything alone so they don't have to, his words to Obito and Madara that he won't let them hurt his friends continue to reinforce this.

Now not only has he failed to save a friend, that friend is now dead. Considering his dream to be Hokage is connected to his ability to protect his friends what will this mean for his confidence or his will or even his dream to be Hokage. If Tsunade dies and he is chosen to be Hokage will he feel he is worthy.

I'm curious to see how he will respond to Obito's taunting his inability to save his friend. Because i truly believe that is what Naruto is going to feel these coming chapters and for someone who has been giving a lot of pep talks lately I expect Naruto will need one himself, probably from the K11 hopefully from Sakura.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

First off i dont think hinata and naruto will hold hands it's totally out of place and unecessary.
Second probably shikamaru, kakashi or killer bee will appear.

[Namaenash]

Now not only has he failed to save a friend, that friend is now dead. Considering his dream to be Hokage is connected to his ability to protect his friends what will this mean for his confidence or his will or even his dream to be Hokage. If Tsunade dies and he is chosen to be Hokage will he feel he is worthy.

That's why I think it'll make the possibility of Naruto making the ultimate sacrifice to bring the victims back is slightly higher. To take that path would be a fitting conclusion to Naruto. If you linked back to his previous commitment about protecting his friend, yet he failed to do so, wouldn't it send a bad message to the readers?

So, we got a fictional hero who talk and dream big (creating a world free of hatred, promise of a lifetime to bring his comrade back, become hokage, never go back on his words, protecting his friends, etc), yet one by one it seems that these so called hero claims and promises don't seems to be deliverable. I don't think we want that aren't we? Readers clinging to the hope that he'll deliver all these promises. If he can't succeed, what's the point?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That's why I think it'll make the possibility of Naruto making the ultimate sacrifice to bring the victims back is slightly higher. To take that path would be a fitting conclusion to Naruto. If you linked back to his previous commitment about protecting his friend, yet he failed to do so, wouldn't it send a bad message to the readers?

So, we got a fictional hero who talk and dream big (creating a world free of hatred, promise of a lifetime to bring his comrade back, become hokage, never go back on his words, protecting his friends, etc), yet one by one it seems that these so called hero claims and promises don't seems to be deliverable. I don't think we want that aren't we? Readers clinging to the hope that he'll deliver all these promises. If he can't succeed, what's the point?

why naruto? when we have obito, this does not make any sense.
Obito will do the same as nagato and bring back everyone.
The same asspull twice.
Does not make sense for him to make an ultimate sacrifice this is the worst ending possible.

IF he cant succeed just die? stop living as obito? he will fail anyway.
I tried to understand this, the ultimate sacrifice for me was on Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, he give up his powers to bring his brother back, he didnt fail.
He did not die and at the same time he fullfilled, he was a hero if naruto would have to do a sacrifice the best possible option was to give up Kyuubi or Juubi if it was possible.
And moving forward still alive become hokage etc but not the same powerfull shinobi as before.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 December 2012 - 10:40 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

Something I really want to know is how Naruto is going to take this, during the Kage Summit and his fight with Sasuke (at least I think it was there) Naruto mentioned how can he be considered for Hokage if he can't even save his friend, meaning Sasuke. It's obvious that he holds his friends in high regard considering how willing he is to shoulder everything alone so they don't have to, his words to Obito and Madara that he won't let them hurt his friends continue to reinforce this.

Now not only has he failed to save a friend, that friend is now dead. Considering his dream to be Hokage is connected to his ability to protect his friends what will this mean for his confidence or his will or even his dream to be Hokage. If Tsunade dies and he is chosen to be Hokage will he feel he is worthy.

I'm curious to see how he will respond to Obito's taunting his inability to save his friend. Because i truly believe that is what Naruto is going to feel these coming chapters and for someone who has been giving a lot of pep talks lately I expect Naruto will need one himself, probably from the K11 hopefully from Sakura.

But here's the thing, Neji and Sasuke are two completely different scenarios. One is the savior, the other needs to be saved. Naruto couldn't protect Neji if it was on Neji's own whim to sacrifice himself for Naruto. Granted, it is indirectly Naruto's fault, but this chapter is the perfect reminder for Naruto and the viewers that Naruto is the person who changes people, alluding to the future TnJ of Obito.

[Gravenimage]

It doesn't surprise me how opposite fandoms will neglect and forget the NS development that has been done for over 400 chapters and obviously till this day they can't tell when Kishi is trolling, his biggest trolling to NH was her confession (Hinata almost gets kill Naruto almost goes 9 tails and in the end after everything was done Naruto NEVER went to see her and gets a hug from Sakura in front of the entire village) His biggest trolling to SS (Sasuke about to kill Sakura with a chidori when their fans expected an apology from him and both were going to kiss and make up). Lol lol I really can't wait till Kishi trolls them again, he even did it during the RTN movie, during the trailers it look like he was supporting NH and SS and when the movie was released BAM! its the complete opposite it was all NS and he trolled NH and SS yet again. I'll seat all relax very confident that Kishi is taking his time to build a big NS moment and give another trolling moment to those opposite fandoms.

Edited by Gravenimage, 20 December 2012 - 11:21 AM.

[Chucky-kun]

It doesn't surprise me how opposite fandoms will neglect and forget the NS development that has been done for over 400 chapters and obviously till this day they can't tell when Kishi is trolling, his biggest trolling to NH was her confession (Hinata almost gets kill Naruto almost goes 9 tails and in the end after everything was done Naruto NEVER went to see her and gets a hug from Sakura in front of the entire village) His biggest trolling to SS (Sasuke about to kill Sakura with a chidori when their fans expected an apology from him and both were going to kiss and make up). Lol lol I really can't wait till Kishi trolls them again, he even did it during the RTN movie, during the trailers it look like he was supporting NH and SS and when the movie was released BAM! its the complete opposite it was all NS and he trolled NH and SS yet again. I'll seat all relax very confident that Kishi is taking his time to build a big NS moment and give another trolling moment to those opposite fandoms.

I don't know whose the bigger troll, the Mayans, or kishi?

[Gravenimage]

I don't know whose the bigger troll, the Mayans, or kishi?

Lol I see what you did there.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't know whose the bigger troll, the Mayans, or kishi?

Still this guy

[sushi.]

Well, I am more curious about what is happening to the Kages, to be honest, Sakura's and Naruto's reaction if Tsunade dies. And also if finally Sakura will get to Naruto, it's the third time Kishi postpones their interaction...

Mhm. Just like NH fans say now that Naruto and Hinata connected a deeper bond when they saw Neji die for them, Tsunade has an even deeper bond with Sakura and Naruto. They'll mourn together