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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:28 PM

oh i forgot about the stupid it "i thought it was about ramen" bs wtf were they thinking?! this was the worst handling of a main titled character i've ever seen. why the hell did they hire a guy who never read the manga or at least should have done his damn homework?



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:30 PM

oh i forgot about the stupid it "i thought it was about ramen" bs wtf were they thinking?! this was the worst handling of a main titled character i've ever seen. why the hell did they hire a guy who never read the manga or at least should have done his damn homework?

 

I'm guessing they didn't want Hinata to be perceived as a silver medal, so they retconned it to where Naruto never knew what love was in the first place, thus never loved anybody else before Hinata. :ermm:


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:39 PM

 

I'm guessing they didn't want Hinata to be perceived as a silver medal, so they retconned it to where Naruto never knew what love was in the first place, thus never loved anybody else before Hinata. :ermm:

 

Yeah, Hinata obviously got the best treatment in The Last even if she was a lame big sister obsessed with a scart, so they didn't mind if they ruined Narutos' character. 

 

However, can we really blame SP? I mean, if Masashi-contradiction-Kishimoto didn't care about his own work, then why should them? :wot:


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:44 PM

The easiest solution is trying being like Sasuke and Hinata in real life.

Know someone you really love? Stalk them. Take pictures, hide behind trees, make them scarfs, and just act weird around them. See what happens. 

 

Which reminds me!  :th_yeah:

 

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oh i forgot about the stupid it "i thought it was about ramen" bs wtf were they thinking?! this was the worst handling of a main titled character i've ever seen. why the hell did they hire a guy who never read the manga or at least should have done his damn homework?

 

Honestly they just didn't care. Hell, even the author didn't care so why would they. Whatever would help set the way for the part 3 series so we can keep the cash cow padding wallets. Sad really.


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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:56 PM

Holy kitten, in one post "he understands, he doesn't understand", Analyzer does a triple salto from a stand still position  :lmao:



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Posted 12 October 2017 - 10:59 PM

When you-know-who eventually gets banned or finally stop with this eternal I'm right-Y'all wrong nonsense, I'm hoping for a big party in plug.dj. Anyone up? 

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:00 PM

In the page you quoted, he literally says he understands it. Think about it, why would he say that? Why would he be drawn with so much pain in his expression. Because he - understands unrequited romantic love -. It was Sakura —> Sasuke/ Naruto—> Sakura. It’s not hard to comprehend, really.

Blind to reasons won't see it even if you show it at point blank range.

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Posted 12 October 2017 - 11:08 PM

i laughed when i read the villain wanted a scarf too. that was like a punchline to a joke i could just hear the sitcom audience laugh in the back of my head XD



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:23 AM

The Last is something that should be preserved in Formaldehyde and dissected by future generations to learn how not to kitten up a franchise.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:39 AM

 you know, id like to read up on who Yugito used to be. i can see her as a master thief for missions who was raised by her grandmother. something to start out with



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:09 AM

The Last is something that should be preserved in Formaldehyde and dissected by future generations to learn how not to kitten up a franchise.

 

Rather just drop it in Mount Doom from whence it came. It's the only way to be sure.

 

The future generations do not need to suffer such torture and anguish.  :D


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 04:18 AM

The easiest solution is trying being like Sasuke and Hinata in real life.

Know someone you really love? Stalk them. Take pictures, hide behind trees, make them scarfs, and just act weird around them. See what happens.
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Go to your "loved on" and just treat them like trash. Call them useless, tell them they have no business in matters they don't understand, choke them, attempt to kill them (this one is very important), and just all around act like you don't care. If you find yourself in court or under arrest just tell them "It is okay, truth is, I am afradi to love her so I treat her this way because I have a hard time expressing my emotions." Again, see what happens.

I swear try this at home. See what happens.

Also don't forget to say, "Yeah...sorry..."

EDIT: Also, yeah, it's easy to say they "love" a fictional and say they're "perfect", but we all know that if someone just like Hinata or Sasuke were to be around them in real life, they would not stick around them long. Hinata would be exactly the "creepy" girl that Naruto initially thought her as while they would never stand for Sasuke mistreating them.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 06:55 AM

 

This is a failure on your part of not trying to see other interpretations of things. Consider a view for example that Naruto turning into Six Tails, and Pain's words used at the time "Love turning into Hate", and then the text Naruto feeling the worst feelings he has ever felt, which is specified to be because of Hinata. An implication of deeper feelings is absolutely credible. 

 

This isn't "inventing", this is "interpreting", this is "Reading", which is perfectly valid, as that is what the Last suggests. 

 

Work of arts exist to be interpreted. Some interpretations are going to be more valid than others, but unfortunately your postulations that it MUST be this, or it is A): Bad Writing, or B): A Retcon, thus A, is the same risky position suggesting greater understanding of things than the Author, thus your position of "OOC" used on the Fake Confession. 

 

And Frankly, on the moon part, it is. They -are- breathing on the moon. That is a detail alone signaling that the moon operates on a different set of rules. That -is- establishing it. This is the other error of your arguments, you want everything "told" to you, you won't take a "shown" example, which connects in your failing of taking in other interpretations. 

 

That's really all I have to say in my defense of frankly, how Literature works. 

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how you don't seem to operate by this rule. We were shown and told that Naruto loved Sakura yet you just seem to fail to "interpret, "Critically analyze" that. Frankly, you're like that mosquito in One Punch man.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 08:40 AM

Also don't forget to say, "Yeah...sorry..."

EDIT: Also, yeah, it's easy to say they "love" a fictional and say they're "perfect", but we all know that if someone just like Hinata or Sasuke were to be around them in real life, they would not stick around them long. Hinata would be exactly the "creepy" girl that Naruto initially thought her as while they would never stand for Sasuke mistreating them.


Sadly, I have seen a few scenarios in real life where girls do tend to stick with abusive guys (or guys who psychologically torture them) because "she loves him" and because "he will change". Mind that these are just a minority, but I have seen it happen.

As for Hinata, if we make her discard the "stalking", we end up with a shy girl who has lack of confidence. They could get into a relationship (for there are outspoken guys out there who may like her body and maybe a bit of her personality), but the lack of confidence can take a toll on a relationship. Not to mention that shyness can be frustrating to deal with in several aspects of a relationship, thus it could lead to the girl submitting to something she doesn't truly want or for the guy to be frustrated because he can't try new things (no sexual pun intended).

I could speculate as to how NS works better as a relationship, but I think most of us know that already.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 10:37 AM

And this interpretation of Naruto possibly loving Sakura -is- valid in the moment, but so is the interpretation that it is only a crush.

Nice trolling there.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:01 AM

In the end, it always boils down to this (and this is why nearly every discussion with a pro-Ender seems to be fruitless and a waste of time):

 

"It might have been directly stated like that, but it must've meant something else because otherwise it would contradict the 699/700/"The Last" narrative."


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 12:56 PM

In the end, it always boils down to this (and this is why nearly every discussion with a pro-Ender seems to be fruitless and a waste of time):

 

"It might have been directly stated like that, but it must've meant something else because otherwise it would contradict the 699/700/"The Last" narrative."

Pro-Enders know when to eventually concede either out of frustration or a deluded sense of self-satisfaction in their belief that they "won" the debate, Anal-chan just can't take the hint that nobody gives credibility to her arguments nor is she going to convince members to conform to her fanatical worship of Kishimoto and NH/SS.  Instead of accepting our opinions and moving on, she magnifies her rhetoric. That's why the only conclusion you can plausibly draw based on her behavior is a need for attention. 


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:26 PM

Pro-Enders know when to eventually concede either out of frustration or a deluded sense of self-satisfaction in their belief that they "won" the debate, Anal-chan just can't take the hint that nobody gives credibility to her arguments nor is she going to convince members to conform to her fanatical worship of Kishimoto and NH/SS.  Instead of accepting our opinions and moving on, she magnifies her rhetoric. That's why the only conclusion you can plausibly draw based on her behavior is a need for attention. 

That is true me well I think this is all I can say on pro enders trying to force this BS on us.

 



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Posted 13 October 2017 - 01:47 PM

Pro-Enders know when to eventually concede either out of frustration or a deluded sense of self-satisfaction in their belief that they "won" the debate, Anal-chan just can't take the hint that nobody gives credibility to her arguments nor is she going to convince members to conform to her fanatical worship of Kishimoto and NH/SS.  Instead of accepting our opinions and moving on, she magnifies her rhetoric. That's why the only conclusion you can plausibly draw based on her behavior is a need for attention. 

Bolded : :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 

All joke aside , "IF" people have the will to STOP reply/quote and feed her she will leave. But sadly it's hard for some people to do it , because it's amusing and they have nothing better to do than playing with a person like that. But just take the positive of her being here she keep the forum somewhat lively , notice how old member coming back just simply because of her argument :grouphug: . Some people just never understand that pro ending fan like her will NEVER change no matter what , it's like you try to open a securely shut blast door that can withstand a nuclear blast just with your bare hand .... it's not gonna budge.


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Posted 13 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

Pro-Enders know when to eventually concede either out of frustration or a deluded sense of self-satisfaction in their belief that they "won" the debate, Anal-chan just can't take the hint that nobody gives credibility to her arguments nor is she going to convince members to conform to her fanatical worship of Kishimoto and NH/SS.  Instead of accepting our opinions and moving on, she magnifies her rhetoric. That's why the only conclusion you can plausibly draw based on her behavior is a need for attention. 

 

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