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[VanitasDS76491]

Plus this is not DC Marvel or Dragon ball which says why some can breath in space hell I've created a character that can breath is space only for 5 min mind you but I explain how and why this can happen.
 
With Superman we know why he can breath in space same with other DC characters.
 
The same can be said with Marvel as well as mnay either have suites or are robots that don't need air to beath or are god like Aliens.
 
Frieza and others in DB well with that it is harder but as MasakoX said they can have Ki around them but that too would not last long.
 
So ones like Naruto and the others would all die the moment they got into space, even Doctor Who knows this the 12th Doctor went blind because of it.

Interesting on the 12th doctor in doctor who. Sad that the continuity of child's play the chucky series is more straight forward cause all 7 are written by the same guy and the last two movies are the best since the first movie or so I've heard. Also sad that ed, Edd and eddy and chowder had better finale than naruto and Ed, Edd, eddy had a better finale that was a movie and it was so good and had more character development for the Ed's than hinata in the almost 2hr the last wasted on her.

[Shashank95]

 

Good thing that doesn't happen! 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I see this script error pointed out all the time. SP's staff missed it, Kishimoto missed it. It was missed. It's an error, and I've no issues acknowledging that's what it is.

 

Claiming though that they had every intention to make people forget the original plot though? That's a stretch. And I mean, what other errors really are there like this, continuity wise, in the Last? 

 

 

 

This is going to require a lengthy answer, as there are many questions being asked here. I will re-quote this when I've written it up and devoted some time to this. 

Could you rather not do that? No one is interested enough nor respects you enough nor finds you credible enough to take you seriously. Do us a favor and stop wasting our time and I seriously don't care what you do with your time though, and not post your speculations and insults on this forum?

[Illnevergiveup3]

someone finally got a full time shift. ^^^

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 12 October 2017 - 02:32 AM.

[Catra]

too bad amaterasu has barely any feats.

 

it was said to be as hot or hotter than the sun that burns for 7 days and nights yet couldn't burn a single layer of skin off karin.

[Illnevergiveup3]

too bad amaterasu has barely any feats.

 

it was said to be as hot or hotter than the sun that burns for 7 days and nights yet couldn't burn a single layer of skin off karin.

 

the definition of hyperbole.

[My Living Curse]

too bad amaterasu has barely any feats.

 

it was said to be as hot or hotter than the sun that burns for 7 days and nights yet couldn't burn a single layer of skin off karin.

 

I remember when we first saw Itachi use it in Part 1 to escape when Jiraya appeared in that (hotel?) room. The inextinguishable Black Flames. Especially how it was a last resort considering it exacted a heavy toll on him with each use.

 

Unfortunately the focus shifted onto the Susanoo so the original abilities of the MS were just kinda left back in the dirt.

[Catra]

remember tsukuyomi and how frightning that genjutsu was? it was enough to put anyone into a coma. heck remember when itachi reversed kurenai's genjutsu and turned it on her? he never did that (latter) again :/

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 

I agree, slow loss of sight into eventual blindness, was a pretty good penalty for using such power. I'll be honest, I loved the usage of Amaterasu and Tsukuynomi. They were powerful and feared but they exacted a heavy toll on the user. But then we get that Eternal silliness where you can use the MS at full power with no penalty at all. Oh and then we have the 50 foot glowing samurais. Oh and then apparently it turns into the Rinnegan and summons meteors! 

 

Which reminds me, why couldn't Pain/Nagato summon meteors? (I'm not talking about Planetary Devestation, as Madara plainly summons two meteors when he fights the Shinobi force).

 

Let me reverse that and ask this question as well. Why couldn't Madara use powers that Pain/Nagato used like Shinra Tensei and the other Deva Paths? Oh boy, don't you just love this stuff! 

I can only guess it was because of (the sudden reveal of) the fact that they were Madara's Rinnegan and not his own and so probably couldn't use them fully or something (how the heck could Obito plant them in Nagato without him knowing AND somehow "turn them off" to allow them to be "awakened" later?) Probably could only even use them in the first place because of (yet another sudden reveal) Nagato being from the Uzumaki.

As for why Madara didn't (like I brought up before)...uncaring inconsistency?

 

too bad amaterasu has barely any feats.

 

it was said to be as hot or hotter than the sun that burns for 7 days and nights yet couldn't burn a single layer of skin off karin.

Yeah, if it were truly that hot, enough that it could "consume" normal fire as Itachi demonstrated, then it should have incinerated Karin and Ay extremely quickly, if not instantly. Instead, there's barely a mark on Karin and Ay simply chops off his arm without so much as a flinch.

Tsukuyomi was only used a few times, mostly by Itachi. Sasuke could barely pull off a weak one against Danzo (who easily broke it). Probably because of Genjutsu being seen as "boring" compared to the bombastic and flashy abilities you see with Ninjutsu or the Dragon Ball style of action fighting you can get from Taijutsu.

[My Living Curse]

remember tsukuyomi and how frightning that genjutsu was? it was enough to put anyone into a coma. heck remember when itachi reversed kurenai's genjutsu and turned it on her? he never did that (latter) again :/

 

He literally crucified Kakashi and kept stabbing him for (3 days I believe it was?) Or when he slammed Sasuke on the wall, broke his arm/wrist and made him relive the murder of his parents and clan over and over. Man, part 1 was really dark and gritty. 

 

Now THAT is the Itachi I remember. I don't buy that redemption BS Tobi tried to shoehorn in later in the manga.

 

 

I mean just look at that. Crazy right?

Edited by My Living Curse, 12 October 2017 - 05:49 AM.

[Shashank95]

Part 1 was dark, gritty and even though there were flashy techniques, it was still believable given what we'd seen. Part 2 threw everything out of the water and instead of clever, calculative fights it became chakra kitten measuring contest.

[Shadow Wolf]

Part 1 was dark, gritty and even though there were flashy techniques, it was still believable given what we'd seen. Part 2 threw everything out of the water and instead of clever, calculative fights it became chakra kitten measuring contest.

This was after the Pain Arc, though, for before that, we still had dark moments, like Kakuzu and his hearts (literal organs I mean), Hidan's techniques, Gaara's, Asuma's, Jiraiya, and Kakashi's death (although the first and the last were brought back), among other moments.

Edited by Shadow Wolf, 12 October 2017 - 12:20 PM.

[winter-serenade]

 
I'll definitely not be posting insults, nor any more weight of speculation than yourself might. Literally, it will just be an explanation of what isn't being grasped in the source material.
 
When a group of readers go "That was a predictable outcome for the narrative", and another goes "That suddenly came out of nowhere!", the latter had to have missed something. You could argue more clarification was needed, but that really wouldn't change that the information was there. 
 
Frankly though, please don't tell me what I should or should not post.

In your example, the former could have COMPLETELY misinterpreted or misunderstood something. It happens all the time. I agree you have your right to free speech, but that's where our agreements end.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I'd counter that the War Arc was pretty dark as well.

And who from the good side died?

[winter-serenade]

And who from the good side died?

Neji, Inojin, Shikaku, they died.

[Catra]

 

He literally crucified Kakashi and kept stabbing him for (3 days I believe it was?) Or when he slammed Sasuke on the wall, broke his arm/wrist and made him relive the murder of his parents and clan over and over. Man, part 1 was really dark and gritty. 

 

Now THAT is the Itachi I remember. I don't buy that redemption BS Tobi tried to shoehorn in later in the manga.

 

 

I mean just look at that. Crazy right?

yeah loving and caring brother my butt XD

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Neji, Inojin, Shikaku, they died.

One character of 2nd row (turned out to be cupid), and 2 characters of 4th row?

[NarutoUzumaki01]

You know that it was more than just a simple cupid thing, right? Neji died for the people he loved. 

No it's not, you can't even face what author said in intirview (many of those where he contradicted himself).

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

He said Neji was a cupid, which honestly goes back to part one, where he also brought Naruto and Hinata closer together. He did -not- say Neji died just to be a cupid. Frankly, his death has more impact than that in simple analysis anyway.

Stretches all over the place. 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

I don't think you know what stretching means, then, granted, that this is a non-argument as it is. 

 

I.E, it is Naruto's Battle with Neji that sets up the entire Proud Failure Speech. It's a simple point to find to. I'm baffled at your statement's invalidity. 

I mean, you give so much ammo, that its laughable. Author that you praised so much answered what was the idea of Neji dying, nothing stated about part one, just another one of your poor attempts to pull one's ears. Now you even trying to picture "proud failure speech" as something meaningful, in terms of anything. When it really wasn't and all the things (apparently for your favorit ship?) wasn't meaningful in terms of story, as author stated, it took movie to make and failed attempt to build it.

You played yourself yet another time. 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 12 October 2017 - 03:59 PM.

[Shashank95]

 

 

Along with Ao(?), Obito, Madara (Again) and countless Alliance soldiers, along with permanent injuries on the part of Might Guy.

 

 

 

You know that it was more than just a simple cupid thing, right? Neji died for the people he loved. 

 

 

 

This is true, the former could have -completely- misinterpreted or misunderstood something.

 

But canon acknowledges that they did not misinterpret or misunderstand. So they are not the issue then. It either is the writing isn't clear enough to get to all of the audience what the clear intent is, or folks just were missing what was established, or both even.

 

 

Nobody gives two kittens about Obito and Madara dying. Uchihas ruined the story. Kishimoto wanked off to the Uchihas so much and he made Madara so powerful, that he needed to pull out powers out of his ass to give Sasuke and Naruto a chance and even then, he had to pull out an entirely new character out of his ass to kill Madara.

Proving once again, how kitten Kishimoto's writing is. Neji's death was purely for bridging the huge gap that NS had over NH and if you think otherwise, you lack common sense.