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[TouKen4Life3g]

Hmm i'd still be quite sure of NS turning canon. We still have a lot of NS moments ( the hug, her running towards 4-tails Naruto, Yamato's unfinished sentence, Sakura crying out of concern for Naruto when she hears the jinchuuriki dies when their tailed beast is extracted,...)
Also NS just fits perfectly with the theme of the anime. You know Naruto overcoming obstacles to achieve his goals(Saving his friend, becoming hokage,getting romantically involved with his dream girl.) and never giving up on them. So it would be weird if he then just gives up on 1 of his goals. It would completely go against his nature and character.
The parallels just reinforce the theme more. Surpassing his masters, succeeding where they failed. Following in the footsteps of his parents.

I agree a lot.

I certainly don't believe the parallels "seal the deal" so to speak. While it may be easy to look at Obito/Rin or even Minato/Kushina (although I think you can compare the former easier than the latter) and think Kishi will do this and this with Naruto and Sakura since the other pairing dynamics look similar, it doesn't mean he'll make it canon because that other thing is .

Right now its easy to lose sight of this. There's been good fan service via anime and some parallels that could suggest ideas, and I feel that its making us not see that when it comes down to it, the chances of NaruSaku happening is directly controlled by their interaction in the manga. Until romance happens between Naruto and Sakura on or off the battlefield, until reinforcements arrive and we see or not see shipping moments, nothing is set in stone.

The good thing is that this won't take too long to come to pass. After the flashbacks are over in some chapters we'll be able to see for ourselves.

I understand what you mean. I just think that these parallels are too coincidence, let alone how the setup is. You know, the loser trying to win his love interest heart. I mean it's basically screaming, "Naruto, surpass us! Make us proud!" Minato is a different story, but has the same setup that Naruto is going through, only taking longer. This is a joke moment, but just imagine SasuSaku happens.

Jiraiya: Hah...Well welcome to the club!
Obito: Wow, you got friendzoned! Even I went down without witnessing Rin rejecting me, let alone going someone's else.
Naruto: Hey, I'm alive, am I?
Obito: But you still lost.
Jiraiya: Don't feel bad. Perhaps you will start writing books like me.
Naruto: But...I'm not good at that. It's so boring...
Minato: You know, your mom in the afterlife told me she's the closest one to her, yet you let it slide.
Naruto: Hey, you're my dad! Support me!
Kushina: Oh, we will support, if you didn't give up!
Naruto: Mom....

Basically, Naruto has to surpass the old generation in every ways. End of story.

[PhenixElite]

I agree a lot.


I understand what you mean. I just think that these parallels are too coincidence, let alone how the setup is. You know, the loser trying to win his love interest heart. I mean it's basically screaming, "Naruto, surpass us! Make us proud!" Minato is a different story, but has the same setup that Naruto is going through, only taking longer. This is a joke moment, but just imagine SasuSaku happens.

Jiraiya: Hah...Well welcome to the club!
Obito: Wow, you got friendzoned! Even I went down without witnessing Rin rejecting me, let alone going someone's else.
Naruto: Hey, I'm alive, am I?
Obito: But you still lost.
Jiraiya: Don't feel bad. Perhaps you will start writing books like me.
Naruto: But...I'm not good at that. It's so boring...
Minato: You know, your mom in the afterlife told me she's the closest one to her, yet you let it slide.
Naruto: Hey, you're my dad! Support me!
Kushina: Oh, we will support, if you didn't give up!
Naruto: Mom....

Basically, Naruto has to surpass the old generation in every ways. End of story.

Agreed!!! To say it easy if kishi would make any other pairing canon it would destroy narutos caracter and the most parts of the story.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I agree a lot.


I understand what you mean. I just think that these parallels are too coincidence, let alone how the setup is. You know, the loser trying to win his love interest heart. I mean it's basically screaming, "Naruto, surpass us! Make us proud!" Minato is a different story, but has the same setup that Naruto is going through, only taking longer. This is a joke moment, but just imagine SasuSaku happens.

Jiraiya: Hah...Well welcome to the club!
Obito: Wow, you got friendzoned! Even I went down without witnessing Rin rejecting me, let alone going someone's else.
Naruto: Hey, I'm alive, am I?
Obito: But you still lost.
Jiraiya: Don't feel bad. Perhaps you will start writing books like me.
Naruto: But...I'm not good at that. It's so boring...
Minato: You know, your mom in the afterlife told me she's the closest one to her, yet you let it slide.
Naruto: Hey, you're my dad! Support me!
Kushina: Oh, we will support, if you didn't give up!
Naruto: Mom....

Basically, Naruto has to surpass the old generation in every ways. End of story.

Srsly can you explain to me where did u get this "friendzone" because you keep using that word and i dont think it means what you think it means.
He wasnt rejected by rin because there's a enorme difference between being rejected and being unable to confess your feelings.

And abou jiraya, he wasnt rejected either he could not confess his feelings because tsunade lose her boyfriend and that kid she cared for, two of her loves died tragically even jiraya itself says that she closed her heart after this, it's not jiraya's fault or because he loves her it's because tsunade did not want any kind of relatonship.

Edited by dovahkiin, 21 September 2012 - 10:44 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Srsly can you explain to me where did u get this "friendzone" because you keep using that word and i dont think it means what you think it means.
He wasnt rejected by rin because there's a enorme difference between being rejected and being unable to confess your feelings.

And abou jiraya, he wasnt rejected either he could not confess his feelings because tsunade lose her boyfriend and that kid she cared for, two of her loves died tragically even jiraya itself says that she closed her heart after this, it's not jiraya's fault or because he loves her it's because tsunade did not want any kind of relatonship.

Well actually, it's the first time using that word. I blame Obito for this word to come alive. Actually, I even saw a certain commercial with guy who loves the main character but as of now, they have been friendzoned. Hell, they even use the word, friendzoned with hashtag (twitter). So, I don' even how it got spread in here as well.

Well, if you look at my "script," I clearly made Obito saying that even he didn't get rejected because well, he's "dead" before he knows the outcome. As for Jiraiya, I think Jiraiya said it as one of his fail moments. He said that she turned him down every time. Either way, he failed to earn Tsunade's love.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well actually, it's the first time using that word. I blame Obito for this word to come alive. Actually, I even saw a certain commercial with guy who loves the main character but as of now, they have been friendzoned. Hell, they even use the word, friendzoned with hashtag (twitter). So, I don' even how it got spread in here as well.

Well, if you look at my "script," I clearly made Obito saying that even he didn't get rejected because well, he's "dead" before he knows the outcome. As for Jiraiya, I think Jiraiya said it as one of his fail moments. He said that she turned him down every time. Either way, he failed to earn Tsunade's love.

That's why i told you that friendzone does not work here, there's no IF's when tobi made was trying to made his confession his friends and the circunstances did not let him confess his feelings it's clearly made by kishimoto, this scene tells a lot of things due to that circunstances he would probaly get rejected but still it' not friendzone because obito knew that rin loved kakashi he was trying but the circunstances did not let him, so it remains "OPEN" because it was on purpose if he got rejected he would drop rin, but not he still might have a chance, then kakashi open her eyes and make rin realize that obito is better for her because he cares about her different than himself, jiraya is different he didnt failed after all his problem is more complex, tsunade had an boyfriend wich died and the second person that she cared died too, this is the reason for her start drinking, jiraya never did something to express his feelings for tsunade, and it was obvious when jiraya departs, tsunade thinks that she's cursed and the people that she deeply cares for end up dying, jiraya knew ths and did not wanted her to suffer more pain, and i think you realize this, i hate when people start saying friendzone to those relationships this does not describe.

Naruto as well had an evolution, in the begining of part 2 and in the whole part 1 if naruto says that he loves sakura she migh probably say "i love someome else" or "but my feelings for sasuke", now if he says "i love you", sakura will accept it but the problem is she stills love sasuke, this is bad, her feelings for naruto is growing while sasuke's is diminishing, the same happened with rin, her feelings for kakashi diminished when kakashi himself told her that "he might abandon her"

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's why i told you that friendzone does not work here, there's no IF's when tobi made was trying to made his confession his friends and the circunstances did not let him confess his feelings it's clearly made by kishimoto, this scene tells a lot of things due to that circunstances he would probaly get rejected but still it' not friendzone because obito knew that rin loved kakashi he was trying but the circunstances did not let him, so it remains "OPEN" because it was on purpose if he got rejected he would drop rin, but not he still might have a chance, then kakashi open her eyes and make rin realize that obito is better for her because he cares about her different than himself, jiraya is different he didnt failed after all his problem is more complex, tsunade had an boyfriend wich died and the second person that she cared died too, this is the reason for her start drinking, jiraya never did something to express his feelings for tsunade, and it was obvious when jiraya departs, tsunade thinks that she's cursed and the people that she deeply cares for end up dying, jiraya knew ths and did not wanted her to suffer more pain, and i think you realize this, i hate when people start saying friendzone to those relationships this does not describe.

Naruto as well had an evolution, in the begining of part 2 and in the whole part 1 if naruto says that he loves sakura she migh probably say "i love someome else" or "but my feelings for sasuke", now if he says "i love you", sakura will accept it but the problem is she stills love sasuke, this is bad, her feelings for naruto is growing while sasuke's is diminishing, the same happened with rin, her feelings for kakashi diminished when kakashi himself told her that "he might abandon her"

Well, I never said that Obito got friendzoned. I just made that joke of a script ironic, making Obito telling someone else that he got friendzoned. To be honest, I don't even know how he got friendzoned. He was never friendzoned. The main problem is that he never got the answer and he never will. Now that he's alive, the role is reversed. She's dead and he will never know the answer. It's sad for Obito to deal with this.

As for Jiraiya, while that is true, rejection is a rejection. He said every time. He could be rejected before her brother's death, Dan, or whatever. It's still listed as a failure by Jiraiya himself. That's really all to him.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 21 September 2012 - 04:24 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Just asked myself why kishi included hinata in the manga if shes useless in the end. The only use for her i think is that it would be to obvious who naruto gets with in the end without hinata also loving naruto to bring more excitement.

But thats just what i think whats your opinion about that??

Only to add: i have a feeling that hinatas going to be with neji. Would be kind of incest bit there are some hints not only naruto sd.

Edited by PhenixElite, 21 September 2012 - 04:47 PM.

[T XD]

Just asked myself why kishi included hinata in the manga if shes useless in the end. The only use for her i think is that it would be to obvious who naruto gets with in the end without hinata also loving naruto to bring more excitement.

But thats just what i think whats your opinion about that??

Hinata's role in the manga is a side character who has a minor role to offer like other side characters: Tenten, Choji, Lee... and the majority of her character is based as being interested in Naruto which many manga has side characters that are interested in the protagonist. That all there's to it.

If Kishi decided for Hinata to be with someone, i don't think it's going to be Neji though, it's more towards Kiba.

Edited by T XD, 21 September 2012 - 04:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just asked myself why kishi included hinata in the manga if shes useless in the end. The only use for her i think is that it would be to obvious who naruto gets with in the end without hinata also loving naruto to bring more excitement.

But thats just what i think whats your opinion about that??

Only to add: i have a feeling that hinatas going to be with neji. Would be kind of incest bit there are some hints not only naruto sd.

Hinata's character is meant to be a character who needed a influence for her to be confidence and strong. She is going to be the next heir, but she don't have the necessary to be one. She's not confidence and not strong. She saw Naruto as inspirational to her. Her standing up to Pain is her proof that she has shown confidence and strong to do something life threatening. When Naruto meets her in the battlefield, she finally got her answer to her doings. It's like taking a test and waiting for the teacher to give you the result. Naruto is like a hero model to her, so hearing a good feedback from a hero is like a dream come true to her. It's the last development to her character. I don't think she will get her love and doubt Kishi would go deep in it. Kishi only shows the deepness from Team 7.

If anything, I see an epilogue that she will be the heir to the clan, along with Neji in the backgroud, knowing that he's her right-hand man. It's hard to say if Kishi has in mind to pair them up, nor it's impossible. He only left one clue back in part 1 and SD has been exposing more. If anything, it will be like FMA ending. Hard to say if they're a couple, but you know they're close and loyal.

[Deej]

Hinata is the classic Satellite Character since all her motivations and personality revolve around another character. Take that character away and you have nothing. I believe Hinata's role is to show how the main character gives inspiration to others to better themselves. Hinata wanted to be better because of Naruto. There is a huge difference between Hinata and other side characters like Gaara and Shikamaru. They exist and have storylines on their own. That is why they are much higher up on the character food chain. Same thing with Neji and Lee, although they have fallen down the chain since Shippuden started.

I don't think Hinata will be paired with anyone since nothing else has been hinted. Her love life beyond Naruto is not important. Unless Kishimotp decided that everyone must be paired in order to start the next generation. Then it could be with some unnamed ninja. NejiHina is huge in Japan, but that doesn't mean it will happen.

Edited by Deej, 21 September 2012 - 05:13 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Hinata's character is meant to be a character who needed a influence for her to be confidence and strong. She is going to be the next heir, but she don't have the necessary to be one. She's not confidence and not strong. She saw Naruto as inspirational to her. Her standing up to Pain is her proof that she has shown confidence and strong to do something life threatening. When Naruto meets her in the battlefield, she finally got her answer to her doings. It's like taking a test and waiting for the teacher to give you the result. Naruto is like a hero model to her, so hearing a good feedback from a hero is like a dream come true to her. It's the last development to her character. I don't think she will get her love and doubt Kishi would go deep in it. Kishi only shows the deepness from Team 7.

If anything, I see an epilogue that she will be the heir to the clan, along with Neji in the backgroud, knowing that he's her right-hand man. It's hard to say if Kishi has in mind to pair them up, nor it's impossible. He only left one clue back in part 1 and SD has been exposing more. If anything, it will be like FMA ending. Hard to say if they're a couple, but you know they're close and loyal.

Yeah thats all true but why do we need a side charakter in naruto who is in love with the main protoganist.
I just cant see any reason for it then making the realationship between Naruto and Sakura more exciting.

I mean why are there so even so many mangas who have a second person who is in love with the main protoganist?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah thats all true but why do we need a side charakter in naruto who is in love with the main protoganist.
I just cant see any reason for it then making the realationship between Naruto and Sakura more exciting.

I mean why are there so even so many mangas who have a second person who is in love with the main protoganist?

Oh that's natural in manga/anime. There are couple of them, whether the main character is boy or girl. I think Shoujo got more of this situation than Shounen. They usually there for fans to adore and/or make the love battle a little exciting. It's always good to have fan fiction spread more since if they only know the main characters' love, then you only get a few. If you somewhat spread, people can create much more. Like I said long ago, romance is a big deal in Japan (or anywhere else), so it's only natural to build up with more couple potential. I think Harem got it easy in terms of creating fan fiction.

[PhenixElite]

Oh that's natural in manga/anime. There are couple of them, whether the main character is boy or girl. I think Shoujo got more of this situation than Shounen. They usually there for fans to adore and/or make the love battle a little exciting. It's always good to have fan fiction spread more since if they only know the main characters' love, then you only get a few. If you somewhat spread, people can create much more. Like I said long ago, romance is a big deal in Japan (or anywhere else), so it's only natural to build up with more couple potential. I think Harem got it easy in terms of creating fan fiction.

Ahh ok so its kind like i thought that its there to bring excitement.
(great replies @ all )

@deej: sorry, seen your replie to late cause it also answered my question.

[ultranx]

Anyone here who's all worried about Naruto and Sakura being too close as friends to get together, did you even read my previous post? If not, here:

"For once I feel like posting a rant. I am tired of the nh excuse that Naruto and Sakura are too close as best friends to be together so here's my counter argument. Any of you ever played the Mega Man Battle Network game series or watched the Mega Man NT Warrior/Rock Man EXE anime or Mega Man NT Warrior manga based off it? Basically there are 2 characters who are best friends, Lan and Mayl. They know each other since preschool and are next door neighbors, are in the same class in school, and are pretty much best friends and have the biggest bond out of anyone in the series. You'd think they're too close as best friends to get together right? Wrong. At the end of Battle Network 6 after the credits it says they got married and have a son named Patch. So pretty much that being too close as best friends to get together and being like brother and sister is a load of crap, nuff said. Hopefully that will make anyone here have more faith in NaruSaku now. And another thing is Lan is pretty much as much of an idiot at times as Naruto lol. And there were hints pretty similar to NaruSaku in some of the Battle Network games too (and the games are the true canon lol)like Lan dreaming of Mayl (battle network 2) and little dates as friends (anime and a few games)and Lan peeping on Mayl and Lan saving her carrying her bridal style a couple of times in the anime and manga(sound familiar?). Only difference is no tragic past other than Lan's twin brother dying(and Mega Man is pretty much the twin brother revived by the dad) and the fact that both had no feelings for anyone except each other, though there was Dex crushing on Mayl and Lan had fangirls since he was the savior of the world a lot of times."

I'm starting to wonder if these NH fans making the argument even know that childhood friends even closer than Naruto and Sakura have gotten together....

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Anyone here who's all worried about Naruto and Sakura being too close as friends to get together, did you even read my previous post? If not, here:

"For once I feel like posting a rant. I am tired of the nh excuse that Naruto and Sakura are too close as best friends to be together so here's my counter argument. Any of you ever played the Mega Man Battle Network game series or watched the Mega Man NT Warrior/Rock Man EXE anime or Mega Man NT Warrior manga based off it? Basically there are 2 characters who are best friends, Lan and Mayl. They know each other since preschool and are next door neighbors, are in the same class in school, and are pretty much best friends and have the biggest bond out of anyone in the series. You'd think they're too close as best friends to get together right? Wrong. At the end of Battle Network 6 after the credits it says they got married and have a son named Patch. So pretty much that being too close as best friends to get together and being like brother and sister is a load of crap, nuff said. Hopefully that will make anyone here have more faith in NaruSaku now. And another thing is Lan is pretty much as much of an idiot at times as Naruto lol. And there were hints pretty similar to NaruSaku in some of the Battle Network games too (and the games are the true canon lol)like Lan dreaming of Mayl (battle network 2) and little dates as friends (anime and a few games)and Lan peeping on Mayl and Lan saving her carrying her bridal style a couple of times in the anime and manga(sound familiar?). Only difference is no tragic past other than Lan's twin brother dying(and Mega Man is pretty much the twin brother revived by the dad) and the fact that both had no feelings for anyone except each other, though there was Dex crushing on Mayl and Lan had fangirls since he was the savior of the world a lot of times."

I'm starting to wonder if these NH fans making the argument even know that childhood friends even closer than Naruto and Sakura have gotten together....

Do you still bother to argue with them?
If they say that they are too close as friends to date let them be, they will make every excuse to try to counter arguments, you dont need to post a wall of text to counter this, just reply "this is not a valid argument, try hard next time".
and say being too close as friends is not an embarrassment to have a love couple and then leave as it is.

Edited by dovahkiin, 21 September 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[candycane-chan]

/\ okay so we're supposed to date total strangers this argument has always failed anyway,the whole thay have a brother /sister relationship ,because I don't think it's normal to have vivide deams about your sister or to want to kiss her and a sister doesnt usually flirt or tease her brother,....right?

They have a strong friendship ,that I agree of,but they're not brother and sister,it's too awkward for a brother and sister relationship now anyway,sakura knows that naruto loves and she confessed in public( true or fake still everyone was there )

[Gravenimage]

/\ okay so we're supposed to date total strangers this argument has always failed anyway,the whole thay have a brother /sister relationship ,because I don't think it's normal to have vivide deams about your sister or to want to kiss her and a sister doesnt usually flirt or tease her brother,....right?

They have a strong friendship ,that I agree of,but they're not brother and sister,it's too awkward for a brother and sister relationship now anyway,sakura knows that naruto loves and she confessed in public( true or fake still everyone was there )

lol but true.

[swagosaurus]

In my opinion, delving too deep into things is useless, especially for an action manga like Naruto. You really have to take things at face value (for the most part, anyways.)
So here's the facts.

Naruto loves Sakura.
Sakura loves Sasuke, and it's strongly hinted that she has romantic feelings for Naruto.
Hinata loves Naruto.
Naruto holds NO romantic feelings for Hinata at all, or at any rate, it hasn't been shown.

Debating with NH fans is, well, pointless. I'm not saying that they are 'bad' fans or whatever, it's just that they hold Hinata up on a pedestal, for whatever reason. Sure, they like the pairing as much as we like ours, but ours is the most logical. I know most of this has been said over and over, but it's true. We don't hold any character on a pedestal, except for maybe Naruto (but he IS the main protagonist, so we want him to win. Everything. )

We can't really look into the dynamics of a relationship for Naru/Saku, or any pairing for that matter. Kishimoto has said before that he sucks at writing romance (which is amusing, since he somehow created some of the most vicious pairing wars ever for a piece of entertainment). NH fans tend to do just that. Not that I'm bashing them or anything, but they can say that Naruto and Sakura are too good of friends to get together. THAT's getting too deep into the context of the situation. All pairing fans can, and will go, too deep.

For our side, we say that Naruto loves Sakura, Sakura could hold feelings for Naruto, and that Naru/Saku will happen based on the themes that Kishi has drilled into our heads from the beginning; New generation surpassing the previous, Naruto completing his dreams and keeping his word, etc.

If you paid attention, everything revolves around Naruto fighting and coming to a conclusion with Sasuke. 1) He said that he can't/won't tell Sakura of his feelings because he can't keep his promises (said that to Sai, who is now the #1 NS fan next to Kishi himself), leading us to believe that he will confront her about his feelings after/soon before he fights Sasuke in the climax of the manga.
2) When Naruto saves Sakura and Team 7 is together again, after Sasuke kills Danzo, Kakashi says that Naruto still has his dream of being Hokage. Naruto retorts by saying 'how can I be hokage if I can't even save a friend.' Thus stating that he won't become Hokage until after he saves/kills/whatever's Sasuke.

So yeah. NH/SS, while they do have a chance of happening, most likely probably won't.

SS is pretty much non-existent. Sakura may love Sasuke, but Sasuke has no romantic feelings...for anyone. Sasu/Karin has a greater chance of happening, plus I have a feeling it might be a possible pairing.

NH is a little tricky. Unless Kishi decides to show Naruto giving up on Sakura (which is like, impossible), NH can only happen one way. After the battle that's currently going on in the manga, and the reinforcements arrive, Hinata will somehow confront Naruto about her feelings. Then he will say he's in love with someone else (Sakura), thus ending NH. Or something along those lines.

Anyways, that's just my two cents on this whole pairing fiasco. Case in point, you really can't delve too deep into things such as facial expressions, inferring dialogue, and even evidence such as parallels. Minato/Kushina is a parallel which is obvious; hell, she hits him, has a catchphrase, looks the same as Sakura when she's pissed, and told Naruto to find a woman like her. Plus Kishi drew the whole bridal-style scene in almost the exact same way. (When Minata saves Kushina from Tobi/Madara/Whoever the hell that is during that time.)

Obito/Rin is a pretty decent parallel for the most part, same with Jiraiya and Tsunade, which both go along with the themes of the story. Though when Obito/Rin get's more development, IF it get's more development, it will be on the same level as Mina/Kushi. (Even though Obi/Rin is a blatant copy of Naru/Saku; they even look similar.)

Edited by swagosaurus, 21 September 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[Arachnia]

In my opinion, delving too deep into things is useless, especially for an action manga like Naruto. You really have to take things at face value (for the most part, anyways.)
So here's the facts.

Naruto loves Sakura.
Sakura loves Sasuke, and it's strongly hinted that she has romantic feelings for Naruto.
Hinata loves Naruto.
Naruto holds NO romantic feelings for Hinata at all, or at any rate, it hasn't been shown.

Debating with NH fans is, well, pointless. I'm not saying that they are 'bad' fans or whatever, it's just that they hold Hinata up on a pedestal, for whatever reason. Sure, they like the pairing as much as we like ours, but ours is the most logical. I know most of this has been said over and over, but it's true. We don't hold any character on a pedestal, except for maybe Naruto (but he IS the main protagonist, so we want him to win. Everything. )

We can't really look into the dynamics of a relationship for Naru/Saku, or any pairing for that matter. Kishimoto has said before that he sucks at writing romance (which is amusing, since he somehow created some of the most vicious pairing wars ever for a piece of entertainment). NH fans tend to do just that. Not that I'm bashing them or anything, but they can say that Naruto and Sakura are too good of friends to get together. THAT's getting too deep into the context of the situation. All pairing fans can, and will go, too deep.

For our side, we say that Naruto loves Sakura, Sakura could hold feelings for Naruto, and that Naru/Saku will happen based on the themes that Kishi has drilled into our heads from the beginning; New generation surpassing the previous, Naruto completing his dreams and keeping his word, etc.

If you paid attention, everything revolves around Naruto fighting and coming to a conclusion with Sasuke. 1) He said that he can't/won't tell Sakura of his feelings because he can't keep his promises (said that to Sai, who is now the #1 NS fan next to Kishi himself), leading us to believe that he will confront her about his feelings after/soon before he fights Sasuke in the climax of the manga.
2) When Naruto saves Sakura and Team 7 is together again, after Sasuke kills Danzo, Kakashi says that Naruto still has his dream of being Hokage. Naruto retorts by saying 'how can I be hokage if I can't even save a friend.' Thus stating that he won't become Hokage until after he saves/kills/whatever's Sasuke.

So yeah. NH/SS, while they do have a chance of happening, most likely probably won't.

SS is pretty much non-existent. Sakura may love Sasuke, but Sasuke has no romantic feelings...for anyone. Sasu/Karin has a greater chance of happening, plus I have a feeling it might be a possible pairing.

NH is a little tricky. Unless Kishi decides to show Naruto giving up on Sakura (which is like, impossible), NH can only happen one way. After the battle that's currently going on in the manga, and the reinforcements arrive, Hinata will somehow confront Naruto about her feelings. Then he will say he's in love with someone else (Sakura), thus ending NH. Or something along those lines.

Anyways, that's just my two cents on this whole pairing fiasco. Case in point, you really can't delve too deep into things such as facial expressions, inferring dialogue, and even evidence such as parallels. Minato/Kushina is a parallel which is obvious; hell, she hits him, has a catchphrase, looks the same as Sakura when she's pissed, and told Naruto to find a woman like her. Plus Kishi drew the whole bridal-style scene in almost the exact same way. (When Minata saves Kushina from Tobi/Madara/Whoever the hell that is during that time.)

Obito/Rin is a pretty decent parallel for the most part, same with Jiraiya and Tsunade, which both go along with the themes of the story. Though when Obito/Rin get's more development, IF it get's more development, it will be on the same level as Mina/Kushi. (Even though Obi/Rin is a blatant copy of Naru/Saku; they even look similar.)

Nice post like you said its a big chance on Narusaku but there are always small chances on NH.
BUT SS is just (impossible) if that happens i will be pist xD thought what you said about sasuke karin who knows, I know that karin is free now lack of gaurding skills hahah but i think sasuke will meet her pretty soon again where ever hes going.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

So yeah. NH/SS, while they do have a chance of happening, most likely probably won't.

SS is pretty much non-existent. Sakura may love Sasuke, but Sasuke has no romantic feelings...for anyone.

Sorry but it has a small chance of happening, because you forgot to add the current sasuke has romantic feelings for anyone(while i'm not saying that he will have romantic feelings for sakura i do think he is a typoe of character that does not "love" someome romantically it does not fit him) and plus we do not get an closure for it so yeah they have a small chance of happening, two the relationship in naruto is utopic, the pairing last for the entire life even in the afterlife too, when a guy or a girl marry it lasts forever you didnt noticed this yet but there's no divorce or other stuff for the absurd is everyone has a perfect family, marriages with no problems on their relationship relationship.

What i'm telling is it's difficult for a character to change their feelings, i'm not saying this has to do with the japanese culture because it does not have, what i'm saying is, narusaku is a pairing with the most probability of a sucess but it does have an probability to fail, sakura feelings for sasuke will last forever .

If she does not confront it, until now she just accept it despite everything he did but in other hand naruto's feelings for sakura will last forever too wich would be hipocrit if he accept hinata's request because he would not love her, look at karin she will probably return to aid sasuke despite everything he did,

Edited by dovahkiin, 21 September 2012 - 10:55 PM.