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[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Pretty much showing she didn't do MUCH even if it was just a bit, and killing Neji was just done to be a Cupid thing.

That is the thing if Naruto went evil and left the village saying he would kill everyone in it I can see Hinata joining him after all her only true loyalty, is not to her home or her family, but just Naruto. Hell if Naruto did go evil and kill of all her family Hinata would not care as long as she has Naruto lovve that is all she cares for.

[sushi.]

That is the thing if Naruto went evil and left the village saying he would kill everyone in it I can see Hinata joining him after all her only true loyalty, is not to her home or her family, but just Naruto. Hell if Naruto did go evil and kill of all her family Hinata would not care as long as she has Naruto lovve that is all she cares for.

I don't think she would, because she's in love with Naruto's ideals, not the person himself. She doesn't know or talk much about him except his beliefs to not give up.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

That is the thing if Naruto went evil and left the village saying he would kill everyone in it I can see Hinata joining him after all her only true loyalty, is not to her home or her family, but just Naruto. Hell if Naruto did go evil and kill of all her family Hinata would not care as long as she has Naruto lovve that is all she cares for.

That's a stretch, Hinata wasn't even in love with person that Naruto was, she was in love with his motto.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 01 October 2017 - 09:50 PM.

[Kagomaru]

I don't think she would, because she's in love with Naruto's ideals, not the person himself. She doesn't know or talk much about him except his beliefs to not give up.

Sadly, this is what the NaruHina fandom believes if all the fanfiction summaries and arguments that I had the misfortune to read is an indication.  And they find it perfectly acceptable for Hinata to follow Naruto if he decided to go a quest in the name of power and vengeance so that he can burn Konoha to the ground, but for Sakura to do the same for Sasuke?  Boooooo!  Burn her at the stake! 

[sushi.]

Sadly, this is what the NaruHina fandom believes if all the fanfiction summaries and arguments that I had the misfortune to read is an indication.  And they find it perfectly acceptable for Hinata to follow Naruto if he decided to go a quest in the name of power and vengeance so that he can burn Konoha to the ground, but for Sakura to do the same for Sasuke?  Boooooo!  Burn her at the stake! 

Have you read this or is it your speculation? I haven't read ant fan ideas where Naruto takes a Sasuke and goes on a quest for vengeance.

[Kagomaru]

Have you read this or is it your speculation? I haven't read ant fan ideas where Naruto takes a Sasuke and goes on a quest for vengeance.

Based on what I've read in some Pro-NaruHina pages on Tumblr, there are definitely NaruHina fans who have said that if Naruto decided to go down a dark path and he usurped/destroyed Konoha, he would be fully justified because of how the village treated him as a child and they sympathize more with him than Sasuke. They also like to cite Gaara whenever this is brought up. Do all of them feel that way and are they the standard?  I don't think so, but they exist.  As for fanfiction, yeah.  Fanfiction.net is particularly saturated with "Naruto Revenge" fanfiction and a good number of them are either straight NaruHina or NaruHarem (with Hinata being the head of said-harem).

Edited by Kagomaru, 01 October 2017 - 10:36 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

That's a stretch, Hinata wasn't even in love with person that Naruto was, she was in love with his motto.

Relax he's just kidding but that would be cool to see evil naruto and he just uses hinata like wesker did to excella in re 5.

[VanitasDS76491]

Based on what I've read in some Pro-NaruHina pages on Tumblr, there are definitely NaruHina fans who have said that if Naruto decided to go down a dark path and he usurped/destroyed Konoha, he would be fully justified because of how the village treated him as a child and they sympathize more with him than Sasuke. They also like to cite Gaara whenever this is brought up. Do all of them feel that way and are they the standard?  I don't think so, but they exist.  As for fanfiction, yeah.  Fanfiction.net is particularly saturated with "Naruto Revenge" fanfiction and a good number of them are either straight NaruHina or NaruHarem (with Hinata being the head of said-harem).

I've read some of them they are good but it gets old with Hinata always their it's guy other girls exist in Naruto not just hinata.

[Catra]

its like

"i read this cool idea for evil naruto! so will I! only i'll reference devil may cry this time or [insert other superior anime here]!"

[VanitasDS76491]

its like
"i read this cool idea for evil naruto! so will I! only i'll reference devil may cry this time or [insert other superior anime here]!"

What does dmc have to do with evil naruto, you mean Dante from dmc4 when he was portrayed as a villain?

[Kagomaru]

What does dmc have to do with evil naruto, you mean Dante from dmc4 when he was portrayed as a villain?

I think she's talking about how in some Evil/God! Naruto fics, they tend to have Naruto either A) have a background similar to another character's, like Dante's for instance. Or B) He'll be raised by that character(typically after a violent mob tries to kill when he's still a toddler) and somehow gain their powers.

Edited by Kagomaru, 02 October 2017 - 02:59 AM.

[My Living Curse]

 They she shot herself in the foot in that scene where she commented on naruto's hand when neji's still fresh corpse is at her feet.

 

Neji dies to oversized twigs launched from the Scooby Doo Tar Monster (great look alike right?).

 

Hinata: "Holy crap! Thanks Kishi! This is my chance to make my move on Naruto-kun! Oh yea!" 

 

Hell, even Lee cried more for Neji... 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Based on what I've read in some Pro-NaruHina pages on Tumblr, there are definitely NaruHina fans who have said that if Naruto decided to go down a dark path and he usurped/destroyed Konoha, he would be fully justified because of how the village treated him as a child and they sympathize more with him than Sasuke. They also like to cite Gaara whenever this is brought up. Do all of them feel that way and are they the standard?  I don't think so, but they exist.  As for fanfiction, yeah.  Fanfiction.net is particularly saturated with "Naruto Revenge" fanfiction and a good number of them are either straight NaruHina or NaruHarem (with Hinata being the head of said-harem).

Yeah, I've mostly been reading stories involving different girls with Naruto (usually far less common ones like Kin or Tayuya, lol) or Naruto cross-over stories and refuse to read them if they have Hinata listed as more often than not they'll follow the canon and have Naruto "loving" her and retconning things and such. At least with some cross-overs, there have been ones with common sense or even having Naruto brutally shoot her down or something XD



https://www.fanfiction.net/s/5267552/3/A-Midsummer-Night-s-Dream (same)

....for a couple examples.

 

its like

"i read this cool idea for evil naruto! so will I! only i'll reference devil may cry this time or [insert other superior anime here]!"

Same.

While I don't mind other anime / games/ etc. being referenced or used as influence for stuff, but it just really shows laziness when people do little but copy/paste such things into their stories - literally or metaphorically, as in something like a weapon Naruto wields doing exactly the same things as a weapon(s) from another anime / game / etc., but doing nothing but giving it a different name. Not even using it any differently either.

[Kagomaru]

Yeah, I've mostly been reading stories involving different girls with Naruto (usually far less common ones like Kin or Tayuya, lol) or Naruto cross-over stories and refuse to read them if they have Hinata listed as more often than not they'll follow the canon and have Naruto "loving" her and retconning things and such. At least with some cross-overs, there have been ones with common sense or even having Naruto brutally shoot her down or something XD



https://www.fanficti...r-Night-s-Dream (same)

....for a couple examples.

 

Same.

While I don't mind other anime / games/ etc. being referenced or used as influence for stuff, but it just really shows laziness when people do little but copy/paste such things into their stories - literally or metaphorically, as in something like a weapon Naruto wields doing exactly the same things as a weapon(s) from another anime / game / etc., but doing nothing but giving it a different name. Not even using it any differently either.

In fact, let me share this list that someone on FF.net compiled about the standard cliches of a God/Evil Naruto fic:

 

I've recently found an interesting guide to an "Epic" Naruto story that I more or less agree with. Look down this list and think about how many stories you've read that have followed or based itself around at least some of this formula...

Step One: Naruto is being chased by an angry mob even though he's only three years old (barely old enough to wipe his own ass) and living alone for some reason.

 

Step Two: He trips and/or reaches a dead end (oh noooo's) and they proceed to inflict grievous, crippling, and all around over exaggerated unsurvivable wounds.

 

Step Three: After ten minutes of stabbing and beating (Which miraculously avoided his vitals) someone comes in to inflict the the final blows at the crowds jeering.

 

Step Four: In a 'thrilling' and 'suspenseful' moment a giant war-hammer is swung down on Naruto, only to be stopped an inch from his head by token superhero #25.

 

Step Five: Token superhero #25 yells at crowd. "WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO THIS POOR BOY?!," crowd replies. "KILLING THE DEMON!" or the like. Slaughter ensues.

 

Step Six: Sarutobi and an Anbu squad show up. (perfect timing) Hokage confronts token superhero #25. "WHO ARE YOU?!" hero responds. "I'm super awesome-man! (Relation to Naruto's parents optional) Now why are your villagers attacking this poor boy?"

 

Step Seven: The Hokage proceeds to break his own law and tells to complete strangers Naruto's life story, much to their outrage.

 

Step Eight: Token superhero #25 says he's taking the boy away to train him. Sarutobi agrees immediately without argument, but pleads for them to return for the Genins exams. #25 agrees. (The fact that he agreed to bring the kid back to a place that delivered a massive beating to a three year old didn't seem to bother him.)

 

Step Nine: Naruto wakes up after the ten minute conversation completely healed, energetic, and with enough brain damage to forgive the entire ordeal. (Apparently he's Jesus, filled with infinite forgiveness for the unforgivable)

 

Step Nine Alt: Naruto wakes up a broken boy who becomes a bitter kitten who can't find it in himself to ever trust people fully again save for a close few, and doesn't try to hold back his contempt for everyone save behind thinly veiled sarcasm/smugness.

 

Step Ten: They fill Naruto in on the details and he begs to be able to come back to be Hokage, (a three year old can comprehend that... how?) and the duo is off.

 

Step Eleven: Time skip. Naruto returns, covered in trench coats and pictures of foxes (throwing all stigmas to the wind) and acting like a self-righteous kitten with an attitude.

 

Step Twelve: Meets Hokage and dishes out all his skills in painful detail (Throwing all ninja sense to the wind). Assigned to go to the academy, which happens to be having its exam that day.

 

Step Thirteen: Shows off dramatically for the test and remainder of story, pwning everyone but Orochimaru in the Forest of Death.

 

Step Fourteen: Total bashing of Konoha villagers and/or other characters the author doesn't like (glance towards Sasuke and Sakura) and are flanderized to practically total kitten/uselessness levels.

 

Step Fifteen: Harem with Naruto! (Includes every female character imaginable *glance towards Sakura* with all the guys staring in envy).

 

Step Sixteen: Naruto is self-righteous (sometimes not unjustifiably so) and doesn't hesitate to call out others on their kitten, to which they can do nothing but agree (never mind if they have an actually valid excuse for it all...)

Edited by Kagomaru, 02 October 2017 - 12:21 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

I think she's talking about how in some Evil/God! Naruto fics, they tend to have Naruto either A) have a background similar to another character's, like Dante's for instance. Or B) He'll be raised by that character(typically after a violent mob tries to kill when he's still a toddler) and somehow gain their powers.

 
So you're going off reboot Dante with evil naruto, cause I don't think original Dante went through that after Eva died.
 

Neji dies to oversized twigs launched from the Scooby Doo Tar Monster (great look alike right?).
 
Hinata: "Holy crap! Thanks Kishi! This is my chance to make my move on Naruto-kun! Oh yea!" 
 
Hell, even Lee cried more for Neji... 

And that's really sad Lee cried hard the a member of neji's own family. I wouldn't be surprised if in hinata's head she like yes everything is going as planned.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

This runs counter to Hinata's words though, when she admires who Naruto really is, not the mask of himself, which runs counter into not knowing much too.

Wich is speculation of yours?

[TheFirstEvil100]

Wich is speculation of yours?

To be far the whole nice act Hinata is can be fake, my nan said never judge a book by its cover, true Hinata may seem all sweet and nice, but that could be just a mask that she has something that shows her darker half the side she wants no one to see mainly Naruto as she wants to be all sweet to him, as she does have that obsession with him, but as I said she would have the nasty side which would be only shown to Sakura.

True this is all a guess on my part but no one and I mean no one is this sweet we all have a dark side to us no one is truly good Naruto proved by saving a killer while saying the guy who caused his parents to die is a cool guy, Yeah.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Speculation would be guessing. This is reading. We know how the manga ends. Kind of easy to base opinion in evidence. 
 
I.E., Reading that Hinata admires Naruto despite his flaws, rather than Hinata admires Naruto because of his motto, because she acknowledges he is imperfect, thus "proud failure".

How many of Naruto's life Hinata saw? 2% at best.

 

Guessing is fine, but non-existent facts is another thing entirely. 

"Crush", "Misundestanding" etc 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

First part: 
 
1: Incorrectly suggests that one needs to see a substantial part of one's entire life to be a solid partner. Most are lucky to see any aspect of a childhood. 
 
2: Infers that all on-panel interactions are the only interactions.
 
3: Ignores Academy life. This connects with two.
 
4: How is this an argument at all? What is your point? This connects to one, really. 
 
As for the second, well, it is a crush. Feel free to update the Naruto Wiki if this is blatantly wrong, as it has this wrong too. I'm actually not 100% against a Naruto love's Sakura interpretation, particularly in the lens of a childhood sort of love. I would love to see a good theory that doesn't rely on claiming retcons or company conspiracy level intervention on the story. But that in mind, I do think it is less valid than the much stronger, and more accurate crush term.

If I write it on wiki, it's automaticly become more valid? lol
Everybody here already got your idea that everything is okay, in Naruto and all, no need to repeat yourself.
And still contradicting youself. Naruto rarely interacted with Hinata at all, but she still a solid partner to him... that is straight up fanfiction.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

First part is snark. 

Second, that's not my point. There's plenty to praise and criticize in Naruto, but I find much criticism that it does receive unwarranted, particular pairing stuff. 

Last part: Perhaps one should question the weight of those "rare" interactions. I think one is also ignoring the passage of time between 699 and the Last where they spent more time together. By all means criticize it for not being in the manga if you wish.

Well, aren't you are a bright one? At least you got something from others people pov.

Again, if you think it's all right in terms of pairings, that's fine, but here people think it's not. Because here people think both main final pairings is kitten and totally undeveloped in all 700 canon chapters. But you can keep doing your crusade against people with different from your opinions.