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[rocci]

NS is too strong to the point you need to kill it by assassinating both characters. That's why naruto and sakura suffer from this ending.

[ramenanmitsu]

The difference between Tsunade leaving (pretty sure Jiraiya was more than irritated with her for that, as he did get on her about that) and Sakura leaving is that, in your own words, Sakura was electing to follow after someone who tried to kill her like some love sick puppy. In doing so, in my eyes, she weighed Sasuke against everything else, and decided he was better. Thus my use of abandonment. 

Actually you know what? I agree. That's the complete same argument that I used when I explained how much I hate Naruto's obsession over Sasuke. Because Naruto will always care about a guy who tried to kill him more than the people who cares for him back in the village. And if it was a matter of choice he would hands down choose Sasuke and abandon his friends. I can see how my previous argument applies to Sakura as well. Thanks for reminding me that. They really are satellite characters to Sasuke.

Fine. Sakura is trash for the reason I listed, and Naruto is equal trash for getting depressed and giving up. No problem in saying it, didn't think there was much difference. 

Giving up isn't really anywhere close to the wording of "abandon" you used with Sakura though.....
 

I feel that they are equals in that they are trash, but at the same time they are equally trash. Many things that they had apparently done and thought are similar in my eyes, thus to me, they are both at the same level of trash. They both turned out to be shallow, hypocritical, terrible people, and I probably won't ever forgive Kishi for portraying them as such.

I agree that they are both trash and that we shouldn't forgive Kishi. Let's agree to disagree for the rest of your post.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 January 2015 - 05:45 AM.

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It's too late! Got your wallet Aww, was it Naruto's fault?

Jokes on you, I have no money in it

Yea, that part of my life is dead

Ok, let me explain you something: I don't believe there is a real reason to hate on Sakura even with this ending. Ok, she fangirled, but that didn't destroy everything she accomplished. Ok, he married the guy who tried to kill her. And I don't like that, but...does that makes her a terrible person? No. The difference between both Sakura's and Hinata's fangirling is that... Sakura doesn't let the other people she cares about behind for this person. When 699 happened I thought that it made her look like she only used Naruto, but in the movie she's honestly worried about Naruto and healed him 3 days straight. 

She "made" a decision that is not the best for her development, her own good, but she didn't harm anyone else, unlike how other people are depicted. 

You're explaining it to the wrong person

I'm not agreeing with anybody, I'm just telling you why people might hate her cause of it. I'm just acknowledging that two point of views exists. You can explain it to the people who hate her though

[Candleguy]

It's worse because it's really uncalled for and "playing with the audience" is seem with bad eyes in Japan, for all I know. He can't do that "again". This time would be explicit.

 

 

So him doing something he's already done is worse? Because he's already admitted to playing with the audience as if there wasn't enough evidence in the manga

 

No, from from my perspective it's not worse at all, I am not saying its good, I am saying it would be business as usual. If it wasn't career suicide the first time no reason to believe it would be the second or third time.

Edited by Candleguy, 03 January 2015 - 05:40 AM.

[Khaleesi]

Bc you can't find logic in this no matter what  and I think people don't see this as both Naruto and Sakura are so involved in eachother  that their action contradict by this ending   so I don't see the point  bc both of them were made to look like pathetic trash  but to each their own . 

That's kitten and doesn't make sense. Even if the ending doesn't make sense itself, we are seeing them now as how they were despicted because of it. You can be kittening rational about the conclusion of the characters.

Anyway   , how was your New Year? 

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More money for Kishi  Naruto shippuden Latino

Lol how XD

Most Latinos I know are cheap as hell and won't buy kitten from Naruto 

[RyohkiFan]

Jokes on you, I have no money in it
Yea, that part of my life is dead
You're explaining it to the wrong person
I'm not agreeing with anybody, I'm just telling you why people might hate her cause of it. I'm just acknowledging that two point of views exists. You can explain it to the people who hate her though

Ahhh snap doodles! Dat Naruto q.q

[Khaleesi]

 

So him doing something he's already done is worse? Because he's already admitted to playing with the audience as if there wasn't enough evidence in the manga

 

No, from from my perspective it's not worse at all, I am not saying its good, I am saying it would be business as usual. If it wasn't career suicide the first time no reason to believe it would be the second or third time.

No, the difference is that this time will be explicit. I don't know how to explain it better. 

[Khaleesi]

Lol how XD

Most Latinos I know are cheap as hell and won't buy kitten from Naruto 

Hey, easy, Latina here   My caribbean body is triggered  

Edited by theunburnt, 03 January 2015 - 05:45 AM.

[Liu bie]

Lol how XD

Most Latinos I know are cheap as hell and won't buy kitten from Naruto 

LOL I hope so, There are many nh .

[RyohkiFan]

Lol how XD
Most Latinos I know are cheap as hell and won't buy kitten from Naruto 

Haaa, I know this sooo much xD

[Liu bie]

Hey, easy, Latina here   My caribbean body is triggered  

Easy girl Magic is Latino and Ryouki too we are in community.

[RyohkiFan]

Easy girl Magic is Latino and Ryouki too we are in community.

Latina here! Yooo

[Khaleesi]

I'm joking. We really don't like to buy expensive things, lmao. Or anything original by the matter. It's very weird, lol. Like, for..."special occasions".

[rocci]

@ryohkifan
That's because both of them doesn't fulfill the people expectation as hero and heroine. Because it turn out to be the true hero is sasuke and the true heroine is Hinata.

I can't wait for April. Can't wait for archer GAR moment.

Edited by rocci, 03 January 2015 - 05:53 AM.

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Ahhh snap doodles! Dat Naruto q.q

more like that Kishimoto 

Hey, easy, Latina here   My caribbean body is triggered  

I thought you were peruvian

Pls, if I can take on my mom, I can take on any Latina

LOL I hope so, There are many nh .

My friend complains to me on how every latino person he attains is very cheap(he works as a cashier)

"Dammit TMC, why are you spanish people so cheap man" 

Haaa, I know this sooo much xD

Edited by TheMagicConch, 03 January 2015 - 05:52 AM.

[FireFox]

Hahaha xD 

 

He is always "mauw, mauw", sometimes "mamauw" and when I call him "Hijo" he looks at me and says "Mamaaa~" :3

Hahahahaha !  That's funny   but wait he really did call you Mamaaaa  or  with meowing  ? And why call him Hijo I thought his name was Kotaro ?

 

cats can be a man's best friend too 

 

LOL That's one hell of a Cat    Ok Ok cats can be that to but there are Cats like that dog to you know  especially my neighbors Cat she's nasty as kitten   . 

 

All this discussion got me thinking, the hate for Naruto from my point of view is due to the fact that he was suppose to be a character who inspire people and shows that hard work do pay off also the fact that he is a great and loyal guy for his feelings and consideration for Sakura and Sasuke but the Last changed him completely that many feel betrayed and lied to :/ As for Sakura, people hate her because they can't look past the part 1 fangirl but those who did were inspired by how she grew and worked hard despite the fact she wasn't special, so it made her a role model but the ending destroyed that and the movie made her into nothing but a matchmaker who can't move on, that is what I feel that has people frustrated with these two characters

Spot on  .

 

That's bullsh** and doesn't make sense. Even if the ending doesn't make sense itself, we are seeing them now as how they were despicted because of it. You can be kittening rational about the conclusion of the characters.

Anyway   , how was your New Year? 

If by that you mean pointing all the rectons then yeah  that's the only thing we can do   as for how they turned the conclusion   only the word "utter pathetic disgusting kitten "  fits in this case .

 

My ass  freeze it was - 15 degrees  .  Apart from that it was casual with my girfriend and friends  we were in a private party it was still OK though XD . How about you ?   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 January 2015 - 05:55 AM.

[RyohkiFan]

I'm joking. We really don't like to buy expensive things, lmao. Or anything original by the matter. It's very weird, lol. Like, for..."special occasions".

Right?..

[luffyq1]

so what grade would you guys give the series before 699-700? i'd give it a D.

[Candleguy]

No, the difference is that this time will be explicit. I don't know how to explain it better. 

I don't know about you but I don't see how it's any more explicit then him coming out and saying he misled people. That is the most explicit thing I could think of from an author. This is addition to what you could perhaps reasonably conclude yourself just by reading the manga,

 

He clearly doesn't care what people think as long as profit could be had. I can understand if you are saying he wouldn't do something based on it messing with profit, but based on the story and his storytelling on it own merit, well I don't see how a second punch to the face is any more more explicit than the first.

Edited by Candleguy, 03 January 2015 - 05:55 AM.