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#4521 ciardha

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:29 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jul 29 2012, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, for one thing, we know that the movie takes place somewhere in July. But we don't know if it's before his birthday or after.


Ah yes, Kushina's birthday in the genjutsu world, but I don't think time frame even matters there at all since it's so far off from the manga...

I was thinking about the movie real world (but even it has some noticeable differences from manga canon. Some divergence before- Konoha doesn't seem to have been attacked by Pain, no 4th Ninja World War, etc... all the Akatsuki are dead at what, based on Naruto's facial appearance and Sakura's facial appearance and hair length is fairly early on in part 2. Things just don't fit with manga canon chronology, so even it's a variant, where it may be Naruto and Sakura may have never encountered Sasuke after that first time in part 2, and he might very well be dead, without them knowing, having not been swayed by Madara's story and rejecting his membership offer- while still recovering from almost dying from fighting Itachi. Note, Sasuke is not attacking Konoha with the Zetsu Akatsuki in the real world at the start of the movie, note the Konoha 11 still are wearing their pre ninja war uniforms with the Konoha head bands on those that wear them... Yet Jiraiya appears to be dead, Naruto has had Sage training, doesn't show the Rikudo Sennin mode though, but yet he knows his parents looks and names....

Even the movie real world is a significant variant from the manga canon world. So yeah we now have 5 variants including the anime adaption of the manga with it's filler, three by Kishimoto, two by Pierrot. (I like manga canon best, so I'm hoping Mebuki and Kazashi make an appearance in manga canon now, hopefully there was enough fan enthusiasm at their making an appearance in the TV adaption, and the movie that Kishimoto will give them at least a cameo- would like to see them dressed in the standard Chunin/Jonin uniforms (like in "Road to Sakura's" flashback) with the Shinobi headbands in the current war mega arc. Wouldn't even have to have dialogue just a crowd scene with them in it.

Speaking of the Road to Sakura episode, I was quite amused to hear Mebuki declare that Sakura was more like her father than her. "Like father, like daughter" (Since Naruto is much more like Kushina than Minato) Perhaps Kazashi is where Sakura's high intelligence comes from and her intensely compassionate nature, where her feisty side comes from her mother (the last is probably the main reason why they argue all the time- and why little Sakura was so meek and fearful)

Sakura isn't an Alpha like her mom, but once she developed a backbone she started fighting her mother trying to dominate her- which is more than likely why she came to find Ino's dominant nature in their friendship so chaffing too. Her mother wasn't accepting her as as someone who was getting old enough to make her own decisions (and still doesn't seem to), and Ino was still seeing Sakura as weaker than her...

Neither significant female in her life was accepting Sakura as a person with her own goals and dreams. Tsunade finally plays that role for Sakura, which is why Sakura has a warm mother/daughter like relationship with Tsunade- mutual respect and support... Also Tsunade demanded a lot from Sakura because she believed Sakura was capable of it, so Sakura strove even harder to fulfill Tsunade's belief in her. (you can see hints of those dynamics played out in Tsunade's and Sakura's interactions. Shizune and Sakura also have a very subtle sister-like bond that occasionally gets hinted at. And Chiyo and Sakura quickly developed a kind of grandmother/grandaughter like bond. Ino does come to accept Sakura as her equal when they fight to a draw in their first Chunin exams and that restores their friendship. But Sakura's relationship with her mother is still troubled in the end because Mebuki isn't seeing her daughter as a young woman yet. She's still treating Sakura as a child who can't make her own informed decisions, which makes Sakura react intensely.

Edited by ciardha, 29 July 2012 - 09:06 AM.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:14 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 29 2012, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you read the chapter, Yamato doesn't react negatively to her until she says, "Won't you stop chasing Sasuke?"

Chapter 469 Spoils~ --Click here to view--
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v50/c469/12.html

It's not a question of whether or not he believes in her feelings for Naruto; he simply didn't like the fact that she was asking him to ditch Sasuke. Especially since Naruto had just taken a beating from Karui in order to protect Sasuke, and later humiliated himself by literally getting down on his hands and knees and begging the Raikage to spare him. After watching Naruto show such passion for Sasuke, it's not surprising to see Yamato or even Kakashi get angry with her over that request.


This is the impression i got from the confession, it could works if she didnt put sasuke on the conversation, because her intention was to bring naruto home while konoha deal with sasuke, if she said let's go back to konoha naruto probably would accept it.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 29 2012, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you read the chapter, Yamato doesn't react negatively to her until she says, "Won't you stop chasing Sasuke?"

Chapter 469 Spoils~ --Click here to view--
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v50/c469/12.html

It's not a question of whether or not he believes in her feelings for Naruto; he simply didn't like the fact that she was asking him to ditch Sasuke. Especially since Naruto had just taken a beating from Karui in order to protect Sasuke, and later humiliated himself by literally getting down on his hands and knees and begging the Raikage to spare him. After watching Naruto show such passion for Sasuke, it's not surprising to see Yamato or even Kakashi get angry with her over that request.


Yep, but remember Sakura knew none of that- she was on purpose kept in the dark by Naruto (note here- Naruto was hiding things from Sakura too... people forget this) and look how readily Naruto keeps yet another incredibly crucial secret from (the info they got from Madara) when Kakashi reminds him not to tell anyone, even though this was something Sakura deserved to know as much as Naruto and might have changed her plans if she had known.... sad.gif


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:19 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jul 29 2012, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, but remember Sakura knew none of that- she was on purpose kept in the dark by Naruto (note here- Naruto was hiding things from Sakura too... people forget this) and look how readily Naruto keeps yet another incredibly crucial secret from (the info they got from Madara) when Kakashi reminds him not to tell anyone, even though this was something Sakura deserved to know as much as Naruto and might have changed her plans if she had known.... sad.gif


Yes but the info he got from madara, they do not know if it was true or not, naruto knows that it's true when he meets itachi.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

QUOTE (Slextrem @ Jul 29 2012, 03:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you read the chapter, Yamato doesn't react negatively to her until she says, "Won't you stop chasing Sasuke?"

Chapter 469 Spoils~ --Click here to view--
http://mangafox.me/manga/naruto/v50/c469/12.html

It's not a question of whether or not he believes in her feelings for Naruto; he simply didn't like the fact that she was asking him to ditch Sasuke. Especially since Naruto had just taken a beating from Karui in order to protect Sasuke, and later humiliated himself by literally getting down on his hands and knees and begging the Raikage to spare him. After watching Naruto show such passion for Sasuke, it's not surprising to see Yamato or even Kakashi get angry with her over that request.


To be honest, that panel is the only panel that gives me some doubt about NS future. We know Kishi is a master of flashbacks, I only hope that since the scene was cut off he would not create something like Sakura saying that she knows exactly what to say to change Naruto's mind about Sasuke. To me that is the only plot hole that could explains Hinata's statement and determination, but if she is using that to show Naruto that she cares about him and Sakura confession was just a set up, then that will be the end of NH as well it would mark her as a clear selfish person without any deny by NH.
Apart from that I don't see any hole in NS and like Sasuke, Naruto has not given Hinata any hope that he will love her and to us the readers he has never thought about her that way.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Jul 29 2012, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be honest, that panel is the only panel that gives me some doubt about NS future. We know Kishi is a master of flashbacks, I only hope that since the scene was cut off he would not create something like Sakura saying that she knows exactly what to say to change Naruto's mind about Sasuke. To me that is the only plot hole that could explains Hinata's statement and determination, but if she is using that to show Naruto that she cares about him and Sakura confession was just a set up, then that will be the end of NH as well it would mark her as a clear selfish person without any deny by NH.
Apart from that I don't see any hole in NS and like Sasuke, Naruto has not given Hinata any hope that he will love her and to us the readers he has never thought about her that way.


I think he will not use it because they both know what sasuke is now, naruto probably say that he will die with sasuke together but i think it's lie becasue this naruto it's not the same as the one fighting tobi now because he's more focused on saving the world and bringing peace than sasuke itself.
If sasuke attack konoha that i think he will, naruto will try to save sasuke but he will not die with him, because there are things he will accomplish and i dont think kishi will kill him because he had a sad backstory and i think naruto needs to have a happy future not dying like a legend.
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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (TerrorKing @ Jul 29 2012, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then how do you explain the Yamanaka clan not having any kekkei genkai yet still being considered a clan?

Do you forgot the mind transfer technique is exclusive of the Yamanaka Clan, plus they read the person's mind in a matter of seconds by simply touching their head.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:41 PM

anymore spoilers today?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:44 PM

I just read this in case no one has poated it yet

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i guess her dad is also a ninja cos sakra says "when he himself couldnt even make a jonin"


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I think this finally answers that yes The Haruno are a ninja clan though not one of note


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Jul 29 2012, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
anymore spoilers today?

Well, according to Shadow, Sakura apologized to Naruto about everything, including the Sasuke comment. I guess it did play a role, then again, we always knew. Earlier post did say that when she says that, Naruto got ticked until Tobi arrives. Basically, that line was like a bashful statement to Naruto. Interesting.

@Ver: Interesting. It seems like her dad is considered a failure to her eyes. I wonder that's the reason why she doubt Naruto to be a Hokage in the first place. Interesting.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:50 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jul 29 2012, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, according to Shadow, Sakura apologized to Naruto about everything, including the Sasuke comment. I guess it did play a role, then again, we always knew. Earlier post did say that when she says that, Naruto got ticked until Tobi arrives. Basically, that line was like a bashful statement to Naruto. Interesting.

@Ver: Interesting. It seems like her dad is considered a failure to her eyes. I wonder that's the reason why she doubt Naruto to be a Hokage in the first place. Interesting.


So Shadow confimed that to you?

Sorry just making sure.

Great i can't wait to watch that scene tongue.gif

Edited by Living Lavish, 29 July 2012 - 03:58 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jul 29 2012, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, according to Shadow, Sakura apologized to Naruto about everything, including the Sasuke comment. I guess it did play a role, then again, we always knew. Earlier post did say that when she says that, Naruto got ticked until Tobi arrives. Basically, that line was like a bashful statement to Naruto. Interesting.

@Ver: Interesting. It seems like her dad is considered a failure to her eyes. I wonder that's the reason why she doubt Naruto to be a Hokage in the first place. Interesting.

Did you ask Shadow about his view on NaruSaku in the movie, did it look like it had hidden romance in their bond in the movie.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Living Lavish @ Jul 29 2012, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Shadow confimed that to you?

Great i can't wait to watch that scene tongue.gif

He did confirm. Her role is to understand Naruto's sorrow and having no parents. In the beginning, it stars okay for them. She rants about her parents to Naruto, knowing that Naruto understands her the most. Unfortunately, Naruto was in a bad mood, so he didn't support her at all, which is a no-no with girls (at least that's what I experienced). She got upset that he didn't support her, so she got mad and said the Sasuke line, which pissed Naruto off. Basically they were in horrible mood. And yes of course, they make it up for it throughout the movie. It's a nice drama by Kishi, which is why I think this pairing is going to be canon, especially Kishi wrote this story leaving off with a good end to their problems.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:05 PM

Interesting, although it doesn't really confirm that there is a Haruno clan. If anything, it just proves that Sakura's parents, or at least her dad is or was a ninja. Still, I'm hoping that there might actually be a Haruno clan or that we will at least get to see more of Sakura's family. smile.gif

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 29 2012, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you forgot the mind transfer technique is exclusive of the Yamanaka Clan, plus they read the person's mind in a matter of seconds by simply touching their head.


No, a kekkei genkai is a technique passed down genetically. For example, the sharingan is a kekkei genkai. If anything, the mind transfer technique is a secret technique, although I think it was mentioned somewhere that that may not even be the case.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jul 29 2012, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He did confirm. Her role is to understand Naruto's sorrow and having no parents. In the beginning, it stars okay for them. She rants about her parents to Naruto, knowing that Naruto understands her the most. Unfortunately, Naruto was in a bad mood, so he didn't support her at all, which is a no-no with girls (at least that's what I experienced). She got upset that he didn't support her, so she got mad and said the Sasuke line, which pissed Naruto off. Basically they were in horrible mood. And yes of course, they make it up for it throughout the movie. It's a nice drama by Kishi, which is why I think this pairing is going to be canon, especially Kishi wrote this story leaving off with a good end to their problems.

I had understood that she wanted to apologies but didn't get the chance because she saw how happy Naruto was with his family. So Shadow said she indeed apologized to Naruto in the middle of the movie? Could you quote the post where Shadow said that? I can't seem to find it.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:26 PM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Jul 29 2012, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you ask Shadow about his view on NaruSaku in the movie, did it look like it had hidden romance in their bond in the movie.


I would like to know that too, since the last time someone mentioned NaruSaku and asked Shadow, he (Shadow... He or she I dont know xD) Mislead it with NaruSasu and said something about sitting next to eachother at onsen :|
mind to ask about NaruSaku again?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:35 PM

QUOTE (Heaven on Earth @ Jul 29 2012, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would like to know that too, since the last time someone mentioned NaruSaku and asked Shadow, he (Shadow... He or she I dont know xD) Mislead it with NaruSasu and said something about sitting next to eachother at onsen :|
mind to ask about NaruSaku again?

He answered it a long time ago. He finally corrected it and said that you can pick and choose because the whole movie involves with them, especially when they switch side with parents/no parents life. There are a lot of scenes with them together and then he highlighted the fence scene, which he thought it was a well done scene. Rightfully so.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:35 PM

can we just get Shadow on this forum?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 29 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
can we just get Shadow on this forum?

I don't know if he's a fan of this pairing, let alone any. He seems like neutral fan that enjoys Naruto as a whole. I do appreciate his help a lot though. I like the fact he's not biased about what's there, and didn't dismiss that NS has tons of scenes and good development for both of them.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:44 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Jul 29 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He answered it a long time ago. He finally corrected it and said that you can pick and choose because the whole movie involves with them, especially when they switch side with parents/no parents life. There are a lot of scenes with them together and then he highlighted the fence scene, which he thought it was a well done scene. Rightfully so.

I just want to know did Shadow seen any hidden romance scene between Naruto & Sakura, I know there's a lot of NaruSaku moments in the movie, I just want to know if any of them were romantic scenes.




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