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[RyohkiFan]

Yeah its a great movie   and this is exactly why I'm watching it again bc I forgot all about it   .

I should do the same...but Dragon Age is calling to me :I

Oh stop it you
But I'm more fantabulous

What he just pulled is career suicide

Now now, don't try to take my spot or we fight!

[rocci]

NS is not always about naruto.
It one side like ss & nh. But Naruto consider sakura feeling.
He acknowledge that sakura love sasuke. Did Hinata do the same? Did sakura do....oh wait sasuke doesn't love anyone.

There's a reason why many people who doesn't like NS think they will be canon prior 699 and 700. Because they are the most develop pairing in this manga to the point that most romantic parallel is based on NS. The privilege only share by narusasu.

Oh and they are selfless.

[Change]

No. It's bad writing. Well, except the part where he "admits" he used narusaku as a parallel of minakushi to "mislead" the fans

Oh the ending showed he's probably one of the worst writers in history(imo, he's bad either way) 

His interviews is what just killed any credibility he had 

One part of me knows ns will never happen but the other part doesn't want to give up.

I know how you feel, I want to move on completely, but there's something in me that's holding me back 

[RyohkiFan]

Naruto used to be my #1 favorite manga, but at this point I would rather pull out my eyeballs and eat them rather than read this manga again/part 3/ watch the anime. I hate it with every fiber of my body
The point is, people's heart change dramatically

Go watch the fate series! Can't go wrong there

[FireFox]

I should do the same...but Dragon Age is calling to me :I Now now, don't try to take my spot or we fight!

Hahahahaha then go for it later   .  

 

Guys, I believe you will feel better if you take a moment and see my cat.

I don't like Cats but yours is cute . Still my dog is more beautiful then your cat . 

[luffyq1]

Idk why RyokiFan suggests this but Ramen here is donut for you

 

 

@DeathGodMack

I admire your faith! But to avoid more "mislead", take it lightly. 

kitten you're making me hungry.

[Candleguy]

Before the pairing stuff even happened

 

I considered Kishi a terrible shonen author officially with how bad the last fight with Sasuke was. If that didn't confirm he no longer cared nothing else would.

 

 

Imagine if the fight between Gutts and Femto in Berserk turns out to be a piece of garbage?

Edited by Candleguy, 03 January 2015 - 05:05 AM.

[Khaleesi]

 

It's only worse in the context of genre

 

As for strictly storytelling I can't see how it's worse when we have already have glaring evidence of kishi backtracking or dropping plotlines.it's actually in line with the how duplicitous he can be with established facts.

...what?

Can't you se how out of place is?  There is written "HAPPY ENDING. FOREVER AND EVER." everywhere.

 

Naruto used to be my #1 favorite manga, but at this point I would rather pull out my eyeballs and eat them rather than read this manga again/part 3/ watch the anime. I hate it with every fiber of my body

The point is, people's heart change dramatically 

And??? It's not the characters fault but Kishimoto. And even then, if we go by the "canon story" to say how the characters are... Sakura is definitely not in the top 10 of Naruto's characters. She fangirled again. That's nothing close to what other characters were depicted to be. 

 

No one is hating on Sakura in here  its just one giant misunderstanding  and this is why I say that debates about who got the worst are utter kitten bc its creating a  negative view around here and comes of as splitting the fandom   .        

What's happening then?

[ramenanmitsu]

I believe I just said maybe two posts ago that I hated Naruto forgiving Sasuke, and I disliked forgiving Obito (even though I'm a Obito fan.) Had you asked me about the whole chasing after Sasuke thing, I would have straight up told you that it ruined the story for me. I hated the Sasuke obsession. The only thing, the only thing, that slightly redeemed that part of the story for me is the fact that I was under the impression that Naruto was fighting tooth and nail to bring back Sasuke because the girl Naruto loved was "in love" with Sasuke, and he wanted to see Sakura happy, so he was willing to sacrifice his feelings to do so. All of that "brothers" stuff was bullsh**. It doesn't matter what you call it, whether it's abandoning the village, or "leaving with permission", it still doesn't change the fact that she was willing to throw everything away for somebody who never cared about her. I hate the three pairings you mentioned as well, at least we can agree on that. 
 
Are being depressed and giving up not one in the same in this circumstance? Did he not give up because he was depressed? Did I really need to state both? As for that long ass list of crimes that I wrote for Sasuke, and how I tried understood Naruto for forgiving him, I said absolutely no such thing. Once again, I hated that Sasuke was forgiven like nothing happened. What I did say is that I disliked Obito being forgiven, and I disliked the "coolest guy" comment, but I felt that I understood what was trying to be said. Obito. Not Sasuke.
 
As for the bold, have I not called Naruto trash on multiple occasions? Have I not said that he's a scumbag that got completely wrecked for Hinata's sake? I don't understand how I can say, and maintain, that Naruto and Sakura equally became trash, but yet somehow be pro-Naruto and anti-Sakura, when I've labeled both their characters as complete and utter garbage, and given them both equal weight by saying how trash they both became. Do I need to call Naruto an a**hole a couple more time in my posts or something?

Glad we agree on how bs the brother bs was.
Willing to throw away everything? Like what? Her friends? Whether she's traveling or not, Ino will still be her friend, Tsunade will still be her mentor, Kakashi will still be her teacher. Heck, even though Tsunade left the village for twenty years, people still respected her. In your opinion, do relationships just die when you travel? What if Sakura left the village to train the Suna medic nins for two years? Will her relationships with Ino or Tsunade fade then? Abandoning a village and her friends is you just creating a flaw about her that doesn't exist. The real disgrace Sakura did was following after a guy who tried killed her like a love sick puppy, NOT abandoning her important people or village.

Depressed is only a reason of why he abandoned Hinata and is not a depiction of the action Naruto did. It's like saying "Obito is bad because he was depressed over Rin" instead of saying "Obito was bad because he conducted mass-murder". Usually, I wouldn't mind you use that wording, however I find it a problem when you use actions to describe Sakura and compare them to Naruto by the reasons and in the same sentence. It's like saying, "Sasuke trying to kill his teammates is as equally as bad as Obito feeling sad about Rin's death". It might not be your intention, but it does look like you're trying to make Sakura look worse and Naruto look better.

Are you saying that they are equals in that they are trash? Or equals in what they did?
If it's the former I completely agree with you,
If it's the latter I don't agree. Because it's like saying Obito and Sasuke are equals in what they did. And if people say that a mass-murderer who killed millions are the same as murderer who killed 2, 3 people I think that is quite pro-Obito and anti-Sasuke because it's undermining Obito's crime and overstating Sasuke's crime to match each other. As trash as they both are, dragging one down to be on the same level with the other only benefits the other and it's unfair to the one who had to get dragged down. If you know what I mean?

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 January 2015 - 05:11 AM.

[luffyq1]

Before the pairing stuff even happened

 

I considered Kishi a terrible shonen author officially with how bad the last fight with Sasuke was. If that didn't confirm he no longer cared nothing else would.

 

 

Imagine if the fight between Gutts and Femto in Berserk turns out to be a piece of garbage?

same here. the story had gone to kitten long before the ending xD.

[RyohkiFan]

NS is not always about naruto.
It one side like ss & nh. But Naruto consider sakura feeling.
He acknowledge that sakura love sasuke. Did Hinata do the same? Did sakura do....oh wait sasuke doesn't love anyone.

There's a reason why many people who doesn't like NS think they will be canon prior 699 and 700. Because they are the most develop pairing in this manga to the point that most romantic parallel is based on NS. The privilege only share by narusasu.

Oh and they are selfless.

I felt that NS was about both compare to NH and SS: o

[LuckyChi7]

Glad I came when I did I would like to ask, do you feel that the NS fandom grew after this ending?

 

Hmm I'd say it's kinda been at a stand still since the ending. Yeah people may have fell out for sure, but some people have also joined the NS fandom causing it to grow too. So I guess what I'm trying to say is kind of and kinda not if that makes any sense. 

[Khaleesi]

  I don't like Cats but yours is cute . Still my dog is more beautiful then your cat . 

Why would you not like cats?? I don't want to read you ever again 

[RyohkiFan]

Hahahahaha then go for it later   .  
 
I don't like Cats but yours is cute . Still my dog is more beautiful then your cat . 

Is it on Netflix? :O

[luffyq1]

Why would you not like cats?? I don't want to read you ever again 

cats > dogs

[Popuri]

kitten you're making me hungry.

It's lunch time here. Please take a rest and enjoy your lunch.. with this region's world time. 

[RyohkiFan]

 
Hmm I'd say it's kinda been at a stand still since the ending. Yeah people may have fell out for sure, but some people have also joined the NS fandom causing it to grow too. So I guess what I'm trying to say is kind of and kinda not if that makes any sense. 

Ahh, yeah I see but at least we got majority compare to before and we are making contacts in Japan

[Candleguy]

...what?

Can't you se how out of place is?  There is written "HAPPY ENDING. FOREVER AND EVER." everywhere.

 

And??? It's not the characters fault but Kishimoto. And even then, if we go by the "canon story" to say how the characters are... Sakura is definitely not in the top 10 of Naruto's characters. She fangirled again. That's nothing close to what other characters were depicted to be. 

 

What's happening then?

 

That's why I said in terms of "genre" it doesn't work. For a kid's story happily ever after is what usually works

 

If terms of the overall Naruto story, I am talking about the story and how Kishi tells his story, take away that the audience is children, with the way Kishi reconstructed characterization at the end to fit the need of whatever plot line he wanted E.G this is a story where 15 years of Naruto liking Sakura could be dismissed in one incoherent sentence about a rivalry which contradicts everything that came before it. in such a story a divorce in twenty years is not crazy and is in no way worse than anything he did before.

 

It would not be anything different or worse than what he's done before that was my point. It only seems worse because divorce is an adult theme.

Edited by Candleguy, 03 January 2015 - 05:15 AM.

[FireFox]

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What's happening then?

People trying to who is better or worse then Naruto and Sakura in treatment and the actions they take  which I think its ridiculous but to each their own .

[Change]

 Now now, don't try to take my spot or we fight!

ᕙ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕗ I don't think you want to mess with this

Go watch the fate series! Can't go wrong there

Sorry I don't read mangas/watch anime anymore

And??? It's not the characters fault but Kishimoto. And even then, if we go by the "canon story" to say how the characters are... Sakura is definitely not in the top 10 of Naruto's characters. She fangirled again. That's nothing close to what other characters were depicted to be. 

I was just saying that people's heart changed and saw what they saw and felt how they felt

I mean I agree that it's not the character's fault but Kishimoto's,. I never hated any character of any written story/visual story, I don't know why people do. But I guess what people saw and felt, was different from what you saw/felt. 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 03 January 2015 - 05:14 AM.