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[TouKen4Life3g]

What is pathetic - it's what he got as legacy from previous generations. He didn't get anything from Jiraiya as mentor, Nagato as senpai. He only got rasengan from Minato, and only braged about being hokage in a way Itachi told him - in the end Kakashi choose him as succesor... And shinobi that we all used to know, that description by Obito/Kakashi - is just being changed by "be tough, deal with it, you shinobi" © Psycho-tsundere Sasuke and Naruto that lost all his balls duiring fight.

Yeah...I'm so lost...Sigh. If I have skills, I will overshadows his work. Sigh.

[rocci]

@ns4life3g
Sakuragi has higher ceiling than rukawa. His attribute is his athleticism. If sakuragi could match rukawa who play basketball since middle school only in three month, then imagine what could he do in one or two years.
The rivalry gonna be broken. I think that's why the manga end when they became equal and could work together.
So I don't think it's not wrong if sakuragi born with NBA talent

The same could be said with naruto. By design, naruto is stronger with sasuke. Why? Because of chakra. In this manga chakra > everything.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Well I think that something we can all agree on is that both Naruto and Sakura were completely ruined with this ending. However, if I had to choose which one came out looking worse it'd have to be Naruto since he was practically lying to himself for 15 years and we were told that he hated people who lied to themselves. What a hypocrite.

kittenslap to all fans of Naruto, but who cares? NH and SS CANON!11

 

The same could be said with naruto. By design, naruto is stronger with sasuke. Why? Because of chakra. In this manga chakra > everything.

No, it's not bleach, in this manga - Uchiha's bloodline >>> everything.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 03 January 2015 - 03:58 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

I'm no fan of them but SK is remotly was foreshadowed by Kishimoto as possible.

We were mislead by Kikitten.

I do agree that SK had a chance of becoming canon, but I still think SK is as bad as SS.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 January 2015 - 03:59 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well I think that something we can all agree on is that both Naruto and Sakura were completely ruined with this ending. However, if I had to choose which one came out looking worse it'd have to be Naruto since he was practically lying to himself for 15 years and we were told that he hated people who lied to themselves. What a hypocrite.

Agreed. Naruto and Sakura just got shot in the head with no one noticing. Naruto got sniped while Sakura got silence pistol.

[Popuri]

Can I be frank? Your persistence in calling debates as "fights" is what makes the atmosphere look bad than it actually is. If you cannot contribute to the debate can you keep quite?

Please not me  All I know that everyone seems to wait for your info from Japan.

That's why I kept quite, only post one or two post(s), last night (when you showed up it was yesterday's night.. last night here). Everyone seemed to have something to say, something that has to be got out from mind or chest. While I was "OMG! What they're talking about? Just got back to this fandom on 2013 and I've lost many details of what?  "

Yeah, I'm bad with words so I kept and keep quite until I know for sure what I'm talking about. 

 

EDIT: And what I meant with "burn"t is everyone seems to be active/enthusiast to give opinion. 

Edited by xpopurix, 03 January 2015 - 04:00 AM.

[RedFaction]

 

kittenslap to all fans of Naruto, but who cares? NH and SS CANON!11

That alone just makes it the best ending ever.

I do agree that SK had a chance of becoming canon, but I still think SK is as bad as SS.

I agree that SK is just as bad as SS. I would prefered an ending where Sasuke was alone, or with a woman he didn't physically or mentally abuse.

Edited by RedFaction, 03 January 2015 - 04:01 AM.

[Awes9]

Choosing to blindly go with someone who was willing to kill you on multiple occasions, willing to kill your best friend on multiple occasions, willing to kill your teacher on multiple occasions, willing to kill your mentor, the leaders of the world, as well as your home, who has murdered innocent people, and done absolutely nothing to redeem himself, to me, is as equally disgusting as becoming depressed over the fact that some girl that he never loved (and yes, I'm talking about Hinata) told him to his face that she didn't like him, on top of all the other bullsh** we were fed by Kishi and SP about Naruto.

So, yes, I'm sorry that I think they became equally sh*tty characters and we're both equally f**cked over by the person who drew them up. I must be incredibly terrible for believing so.

ha yes I will never understand people complaining about Naruto while saying Sakura is better, even before chapter 699 in chapter 675 she was more worried about Sasuke's feelings towards her than Madara trying to take over the world or in 693 what was Sakura's reaction after Sasuke's intentions were revealed ? Trying to defend Naruto and Tsunade from Sasuke ? No her reaction was a pathetic plea to get Sasuke back because of her true lub and that she couldn't stand seeing him bad, not even one tought about the fact Sasuke was tring to brutally murder 2 of her most important people, no it was all about her selfish feelings, 699 was just the cherry on the cake. The only reason you can make a case for Naruto being worse is that he's the main character and you shouldn't execpt such things from him but it doesnt change that both Naruto and Sakura are awful characters and no one is better than the other, it would be like comparing kitten and vomit I have no preference.

Edited by Awes9, 03 January 2015 - 04:07 AM.

[RyohkiFan]

Well I think that something we can all agree on is that both Naruto and Sakura were completely ruined with this ending. However, if I had to choose which one came out looking worse it'd have to be Naruto since he was practically lying to himself for 15 years and we were told that he hated people who lied to themselves. What a hypocrite.

I can agree with this, which is a shame because many people looked up to him and to see what happened to his character is hurtful :/

It's alright thanks for the update Ryo    

You are welcome, YouTube star

Can I be frank? Your persistence in calling debates as "fights" is what makes the atmosphere look bad than it actually is. If you cannot contribute to the debate can you keep quite? And no, I'm not attacking you.
  Yeah yeah, because it's understandable if Naruto goes blind after Sasuke or Obito, but it isn't when Sakura does it right? You're alright with it, that's why you're only complaining when Sakura does it right? Can you explain to me what's the difference? And stop with the "abandoning the village" nonsense because you and I both know that leaving a village temporary for a year or two with with permission does not equate to "abandoning" it. I hate that Naruto and Sakura chased after Sasuke for a guy who never cared about them. I hate SS/SK/SN. And I hate arguments that justify one after the other.
So Naruto was only depressed after a girl he didn't love? He didn't try to give up on her? Yeah, you made Naruto seem a lot more sympathetic and Sakura more demonic by undermining what Naruto did by saying he was only "depressed" when we both know that were it not for Shikamaru he would not have saved a friend in danger, and writing a long ass sentence about Sasuke's previous crimes which you really didn't do when talking about how you understood that Naruto forgave him.
Stop putting words to my mouth. I never said you were terrible. And I don't hate you either. I just believe you're a pro-Naruto and anti-Sakua from the way you use your words and arguments.

*gives a cookie with milk*

[TouKen4Life3g]

@ns4life3g
Sakuragi has higher ceiling than rukawa. His attribute is his athleticism. If sakuragi could match rukawa who play basketball since middle school only in three month, then imagine what could he do in one or two years.
The rivalry gonna be broken. I think that's why the manga end when they became equal and could work together.
So I don't think it's not wrong if sakuragi born with NBA talent

The same could be said with naruto. By design, naruto is stronger with sasuke. Why? Because of chakra. In this manga chakra > everything.

But Naruto is a reincarnation, Destiny and all. Sakuragi has natural potential but he has to unlock it. Naruto is like "Oh hey, you have it, so rejoice. Ready for more powerup?" Put it this way. Hard work natural was gone when finding world peace comes in play, which failed to address.

[ramenanmitsu]

Please not me  All I know that everyone seems to wait for your info from Japan.
That's why I kept quite, only post one or two post(s), last night (when you showed up it was yesterday's night.. last night here). Everyone seemed to have something to say, something that has to be got out from mind or chest. While I was "OMG! What they're talking about? Just got back to this fandom on 2013 and I've lost many details of what?  "
Yeah, I'm bad with words so I kept and keep quite until I know for sure what I'm talking about.

Oh okay, sorry I wasn't attacking you. I just want to say that "debate is a debate". So either contributing to it or ignoring it would be okay. But stop trying to create fights or that never exist. If you know what I mean. :)

Edit: I was talking about the "fight" comment or did I misquote someone else?

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 03 January 2015 - 04:09 AM.

[RyohkiFan]

That alone just makes it the best ending ever.

I agree that SK is just as bad as SS. I would prefered an ending where Sasuke was alone, or with a woman he didn't physically or mentally abuse.

I was hoping he would end up alone and travel with Team Taka while in good terms with Team 7 :o

[NarutoUzumaki01]

We were mislead by Kikitten.

Worst damage control ever, "parallels was misleading" then WTF actuall story was about? If he coudn't stay to himself, he just could just stay true to the story, sacrifice some of his money - but end it as he planned it, not this "all was planed 8 years ago, *and goes with 5 chapters to final fight*".

 

I agree that SK is just as bad as SS. I would prefered an ending where Sasuke was alone, or with a woman he didn't physically or mentally abuse.

SK would make the best way to end curse of hatred between two clans, and would redeem Sasuke, never saw it as bad as SS, because he never tried to assasinate her directly, only as Tobirama would do it.

[FireFox]

Choosing to blindly go with someone who was willing to kill you on multiple occasions, willing to kill your best friend on multiple occasions, willing to kill your teacher on multiple occasions, willing to kill your mentor, the leaders of the world, as well as your home, who has murdered innocent people, and done absolutely nothing to redeem himself, to me, is as equally disgusting as becoming depressed over the fact that some girl that he never loved (and yes, I'm talking about Hinata) told him to his face that she didn't like him, on top of all the other bullsh** we were fed by Kishi and SP about Naruto.

So, yes, I'm sorry that I think they became equally sh*tty characters and we're both equally f**cked over by the person who drew them up. I must be incredibly terrible for believing so.

Can I be frank? Your persistence in calling debates as "fights" is what makes the atmosphere look bad than it actually is. If you cannot contribute to the debate can you keep quite? And no, I'm not attacking you.
  Yeah yeah, because it's understandable if Naruto goes blind after Sasuke or Obito, but it isn't when Sakura does it right? In regards to blindness regarding Sasuke, Naruto was always the more devouted one. Yet, I never see you complain about that. I hate that Naruto and Sakura chased after Sasuke for a guy who never cared about them. I hate SS/SK/SN. And I hate arguments that justify one after the other.

So Naruto was only depressed after a girl he didn't love? He didn't try to give up on her? Yeah, you made Naruto stand a lot more sympathetic and Sakura more demonic by undermining what Naruto did by saying he was only "depressed" when we both know that were it not for Shikamaru he would not have saved a friend in danger, and writing a long ass sentence about Sasuke's previous crimes which you really didn't do when talking about how you understood that Naruto forgave him.

Stop putting words to my mouth. I never said you were terrible. And I don't hate you either. I just believe you're a pro-Naruto and anti-Sakua from the way you use your words and arguments.

Both Naruto and Sakura was kittented on in the end both of their characters were made pathetic so opposite if what they were and all the development rectoned  . Neither of their actions was good or made sens in the long run and by the manga .

 

In the end Kishimoto f**cked them up so bad  so I ask the both of you  does it really matter who got the worst more or less ? So why do you guys even try to defend this kitten  logically when all the logic  was thrown out of the window  ? You both do realize both Naruto and Sakura's action contradict each other right ?  I hope you guys realize how stupid this is  and your debate is only causing a splitting in the fandom which I think is wrong .  But if you guys still think that in both of their actions you can find some ridiculous logic or justifying the whole kitten  then be my guest .

 

I did not mean to interrupt and I'm sorry  but really I'm sick of the whole  one is more sympathetic then the other   when in reality they were both trashed  by Kikitten and SP   and I've been saying this from the start  its pointless to blame them  but whatever  I guess if people don't see this .

 

 *gives a cookie with milk*

I'll take it I need one so bad    .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 January 2015 - 04:07 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The one who change sasuke is itachi, then what is the job of naruto again?

That's another change after the first editor. Itachi died and left Naruto all the work. Nope. Time to change that and take over a good portion.

[RyohkiFan]

Please not me  All I know that everyone seems to wait for your info from Japan.
That's why I kept quite, only post one or two post(s), last night (when you showed up it was yesterday's night.. last night here). Everyone seemed to have something to say, something that has to be got out from mind or chest. While I was "OMG! What they're talking about? Just got back to this fandom on 2013 and I've lost many details of what?  "
Yeah, I'm bad with words so I kept and keep quite until I know for sure what I'm talking about. 
 
EDIT: And what I meant with "burn"t is everyone seems to be active/enthusiast to give opinion. 

we are on the same boat, my friend.

[RedFaction]

 

SK would make the best way to end curse of hatred between two clans, and would redeem Sasuke, never saw it as bad as SS, because he never tried to assasinate her directly, only as Tobirama would do it.

That is true but it's just my opinion that Karin would deserve a better ending than being with a man who was willing to throw her life away like she was nothing. I guess it really doesn't matter though since Karin completely disappeared from the story without a trace.

[RyohkiFan]

That is true but it's just my opinion that Karin would deserve a better ending than being with a man who was willing to throw her life away like she was nothing. I guess it really doesn't matter though since Karin completely disappeared from the story without a trace.

My team taka...my Suigetsu

[rocci]

kittenslap to all fans of Naruto, but who cares? NH and SS CANON!11
 

No, it's not bleach, in this manga - Uchiha's bloodline >>> everything.

That's why I said by design.
How do you think sasuke could be on par with naruto?
The answer is asspull no jutsu.
Oh and hashi is OP because his chakra is as big as naruto in Kyubi mode.
It answer the question why madara need kurama to challenge hashi.

@luffy
Can't agree anymore.

[TouKen4Life3g]

We were mislead by Kikitten.

I do agree that SK had a chance of becoming canon, but I still think SK is as bad as SS.

If it was going to be canon, so be it. The point is that's not our business. A second main character took the protagonist's love interest. That's so sad.