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[Derock]

I highly doubt that there was a kind of interview like that and Kishimoto answered with that said quote. If he did said that "vague" statement, that while we all be jumping up and down like maniacs right now, it sounded like he spoiled what's going to happen on the future. Pink and Yellow will catch the attention of many fans whenever they find out (and we know well that NH/SS groups will desperately try to get rid of it and the source itself, so that their pairings will still be popular and "tries their best" to be canon. They had already got rid of the more accurate translation of Jump Fiesta 2009 interview). And you have to understand when it comes to colors, those 2 are very bright and easy to identify.

[Paptala]

I do think that there will be a final pairing, due to :

a) The amount of time Kishimoto has spent exploring the romance subplot
b) The interview where he said that he wanted(?)/was planing(?) to make at least one pairing requited

And honestly, looking at the overall story in the larger context, I still think NS is the strongest contender by far - where is Sasuke in SasuSaku? Where is Naruto in NaruHina?

Part 2 has been all about Sakura developing feelings beyond friendship for Naruto, while part one was coming to understand him as a person. Part 2 was where Kishi said he wanted to add romance in, despite feeling that he is not very good at it. Which pairing has had the most focus in part two? NaruSaku.

Ask yourself this - has Sasuke ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two? Has Naruto ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two?

No.

Also consider the fact that Kishimoto stated that the theme of the manga was bonds, and that he wanted to "depict the struggles and complications of those bonds". Where is the struggle in NaruHina? Where are the complications in NaruHina? There aren't any - it's a straightforward relationship that revolves around Hinata.

And that is why I find it hard to believe that NS is simply the red herring, in order to make way for pairings that horribly one-sided in all ways that they can possibly be lopsided. When looking and comparing the overall development of these three relationships, and the time Kishi has invested into them, it seems rather glaringly obvious which one he finds more important.

Edited by Paptala, 06 July 2011 - 04:19 AM.

[merryGOflava]

i have this shounen jump magazine that has a naruto relationship chart XDD and it says naruto loves sakura of course, but it also says for sakura that she USED to like sasuke XDD i found that funny

i dont know if that magazine is right :T ( i dont entirely believe it) but its funny that it says that X3

though this magazine was during pain's fight.

[Darth Krypt]

To make it short and simple, the main pairing has always been NS. NH and SS are just distractions and its their shippers who got caught and made a big deal out of it.

I have to admit I got distracted by NH during part 1 and early part 2 but once I saw alot of NS developments then I got to see the real big picture.

Edited by Darth Krypt, 06 July 2011 - 05:54 AM.

[ciardha]

I do think that there will be a final pairing, due to :

a) The amount of time Kishimoto has spent exploring the romance subplot
b) The interview where he said that he wanted(?)/was planing(?) to make at least one pairing requited

And honestly, looking at the overall story in the larger context, I still think NS is the strongest contender by far - where is Sasuke in SasuSaku? Where is Naruto in NaruHina?

Part 2 has been all about Sakura developing feelings beyond friendship for Naruto, while part one was coming to understand him as a person. Part 2 was where Kishi said he wanted to add romance in, despite feeling that he is not very good at it. Which pairing has had the most focus in part two? NaruSaku.

Ask yourself this - has Sasuke ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two? Has Naruto ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two?

No.

Also consider the fact that Kishimoto stated that the theme of the manga was bonds, and that he wanted to "depict the struggles and complications of those bonds". Where is the struggle in NaruHina? Where are the complications in NaruHina? There aren't any - it's a straightforward relationship that revolves around Hinata.

And that is why I find it hard to believe that NS is simply the red herring, in order to make way for pairings that horribly one-sided in all ways that they can possibly be lopsided. When looking and comparing the overall development of these three relationships, and the time Kishi has invested into them, it seems rather glaringly obvious which one he finds more important.

And as well how Kishimoto has shown you through character interactions and outright statements that the ideal relationship is the one where the girl at first isn't terribly impressed with the boy. Kishimoto has Shikaku and Jiraiya both tell the readers this. You see it played out with Jiraiya and Tsunade, Minato and Kushina, implied with Shikaku and Yoshino, Naruto and Sakura. (and more subtly with Shikamaru and Temari and Chouji and Ino. Considering the way he uses this pattern it was more than likely also true for Asuma and Kurenai- there's bit of a vague hint in the direction- we know she was irritated about his smoking and was vocal about that.)

[Chew]

I'm curious as to where one could read the interviews with Kishi-sensei...darn.

And I feel like I need some more to quench my shipping thirst

[Paptala]

And as well how Kishimoto has shown you through character interactions and outright statements that the ideal relationship is the one where the girl at first isn't terribly impressed with the boy. Kishimoto has Shikaku and Jiraiya both tell the readers this. You see it played out with Jiraiya and Tsunade, Minato and Kushina, implied with Shikaku and Yoshino, Naruto and Sakura. (and more subtly with Shikamaru and Temari and Chouji and Ino. Considering the way he uses this pattern it was more than likely also true for Asuma and Kurenai- there's bit of a vague hint in the direction- we know she was irritated about his smoking and was vocal about that.)

This is a great point - if all of his canon relationships follow this pattern (some a bit more loosely than others, but still there), then why wouldn't his main couple with the main characters follow it as well?

I don't see how points like this get shot down in debate threads as weak parallels, including stuff life the sannin parallel and the similarities between Minato and Kushina's back story to Naruto and Sakura's (especially the compliment over a physical feature the girls were made fun of for when they were little, and that they disliked the most about themselves), when it seems like its obviously meant to connect back to NaruSaku (again - where are the parallels/foreshadowing hints for SS and NH of this nature?).

[Phantom_999]

I do think that there will be a final pairing, due to :

a) The amount of time Kishimoto has spent exploring the romance subplot
b) The interview where he said that he wanted(?)/was planing(?) to make at least one pairing requited

And honestly, looking at the overall story in the larger context, I still think NS is the strongest contender by far - where is Sasuke in SasuSaku? Where is Naruto in NaruHina?

Part 2 has been all about Sakura developing feelings beyond friendship for Naruto, while part one was coming to understand him as a person. Part 2 was where Kishi said he wanted to add romance in, despite feeling that he is not very good at it. Which pairing has had the most focus in part two? NaruSaku.

Ask yourself this - has Sasuke ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two? Has Naruto ever shown anything remotely close to the level of affection and/or attraction that Sakura has shown for Naruto in part two?

No.

Also consider the fact that Kishimoto stated that the theme of the manga was bonds, and that he wanted to "depict the struggles and complications of those bonds". Where is the struggle in NaruHina? Where are the complications in NaruHina? There aren't any - it's a straightforward relationship that revolves around Hinata.

And that is why I find it hard to believe that NS is simply the red herring, in order to make way for pairings that horribly one-sided in all ways that they can possibly be lopsided. When looking and comparing the overall development of these three relationships, and the time Kishi has invested into them, it seems rather glaringly obvious which one he finds more important.

WEEEEELLLLLL.... If you consider know interaction at all and just suddenly falling in love a struggle and an effort just saying NH/SS fans would think that

And as well how Kishimoto has shown you through character interactions and outright statements that the ideal relationship is the one where the girl at first isn't terribly impressed with the boy. Kishimoto has Shikaku and Jiraiya both tell the readers this. You see it played out with Jiraiya and Tsunade, Minato and Kushina, implied with Shikaku and Yoshino, Naruto and Sakura. (and more subtly with Shikamaru and Temari and Chouji and Ino. Considering the way he uses this pattern it was more than likely also true for Asuma and Kurenai- there's bit of a vague hint in the direction- we know she was irritated about his smoking and was vocal about that.)

It's True. BUT fans try to deny it because as you see on sites like narutopedia such comments were deleted just because some wackos consider it speculation rather than canon and yet they kept the stuff like that mistranslated "Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura" statement MAN that site is full of B***S***!

Edited by Phantom_999, 06 July 2011 - 08:45 PM.

[Haaky]

Seems my previous comment got stoned, burned and tossed in the trash. There was a point in my life
I would be all hysterical if NS didn't happen. All I am saying I am past that, although my strong love for
the pairing, remains.

And everyone could be happy IF Naruto got a change of heart. Witch is NOT likely, I KNOW.
But it is not IMPOSSIBLE.

Just saying

[CloudMountainJuror]

Seems my previous comment got stoned, burned and tossed in the trash. There was a point in my life
I would be all hysterical if NS didn't happen. All I am saying I am past that, although my strong love for
the pairing, remains.

And everyone could be happy IF Naruto got a change of heart. Witch is NOT likely, I KNOW.
But it is not IMPOSSIBLE.

Just saying

I understand; however, if NaruHina is to happen plausibly, Kishi needs to provide a sh*tload of development for them.

[Haaky]

I understand; however, if NaruHina is to happen plausibly, Kishi needs to provide a sh*tload of development for them.

I totally agree. I think the uncertainty Kishi is making is genious though. He builds, he builds and he builds. Than
he bumps it down. Sakuras confession was a bumpdown. I mean you can anylize yourself green and find some sincerety
in what she said. But most people found the confession fishy, thus me calling it a bump. Then he builds, builds and builds.
And bumps it down again with that "sakura thinking about Sasuke as his true love thing" again, and even does some "Hinata
gets inpsired by fighting for Naruto" crap to get our NS esteem even further down.

And don't you guys deny you get insicure when he does those bumps, because I have seen all the
discussions it creates here. Prooves my pont. Witch is that he keeps the tention on a perfect lvl.

I hate it!
I love it!
It's a gift!
It's a curse!
He is...
THE BUMPDOWN MAN!

yeah...

[Anguyen92]

Hmmm, I respectfully see your point, well I have no rebutal on that one. Those moments has always have me on the edge. However, there are always certain things that reassures me, like Toasty's fanfics and that picture with Naruto, Sakura, and his parents from Ladygt, so as a result, I'm not that worried that much. Though there is that 1% of me that thinks that there is gonna be a huge swerve that would cause the forums to explode.

Edited by anguyen92, 06 July 2011 - 10:03 PM.

[Darth Krypt]

Those "bumps" didn't affect me like how the others overreacted over it. Especially the Sakura thinking of Sasuke part because I know she's not thinking of him romantically. Anything from Sakura and Hinata won't worry me because we've seen it before hence no development. Now I would be worried as hell if Naruto starts to think about Hinata and Sasuke about Sakura romantically. But that is highly unlikely because those have always been one-sided.

[Amrikandesi93]

Those "bumps" didn't affect me like how the others overreacted over it. Especially the Sakura thinking of Sasuke part because I know she's not thinking of him romantically. Anything from Sakura and Hinata won't worry me because we've seen it before hence no development. Now I would be worried as hell if Naruto starts to think about Hinata and Sasuke about Sakura romantically. But that is highly unlikely because those have always been one-sided.

Idk. i doubt Sasuke has ever thought about anyone romantically and i doubt he ever will...

[Phantom_999]

He might you never know well I'd only imagine that if there was a girl put into the story just for him

[Amrikandesi93]

He might you never know well I'd only imagine that if there was a girl put into the story just for him

Well, why else is Tenten here?

[bthug]

If sasuke started to think about Sakura, I would lose it

But I would trust Sakura to turn him down



Question: How would u guys feel if at the end their was no kiss and maybe anywhere from little to no closure, but in the epilogue it was Narusaku.

Me beggers cant be choosers, but Fu*k that I aint no begger I want a kiss, a passinoate kiss and confession from both parties and some god damn emotion.

[Darth Krypt]

Question: How would u guys feel if at the end their was no kiss and maybe anywhere from little to no closure, but in the epilogue it was Narusaku.

I thought I asked that question in this thread already? I compared with FMA ending.

[Chew]

I want mutual confessions. I want a big hug. I want fluff. I want a kiss. Beggars can't be choosers, but dammit Kishi-sensei, you've been trolling us for a long a** time! Don't throw me a bone, I want a steak!

But yes, I want fluff. And maybe you know...that

[Chew]

If anyone's ever seen Full Metal Panic, with Sousuke and Chidori, you'll understand why "Chidori" is the only one for Sasuke (<-- joke)

It's the one beloved of his that he will never part with.

As for our blonde hero...