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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:04 PM

Well, let's not get our hopes up too high, either. I don't think we're out of the game, and I even think we're at an advantage, but still. A little reservation is healthy. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than sorely disappointed from expecting too much.

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:05 PM

More reason for getting something big back for it. We will know one way or another.

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:05 PM

same here i've been reading to this thread for 2 to 3 hrs but it seems like there's no end to this lol :D

however ur right, yesterday many narusaku fans kept on panicking losing hope to this couple. but now i guess many fans have gain confident that this couple is canon which is good :D

Yup it seems some users posiive atittude finally infected the other users XD

 

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:06 PM

Well, let's not get our hopes up too high, either. I don't think we're out of the game, and I even think we're at an advantage, but still. A little reservation is healthy. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than sorely disappointed from expecting too much.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:07 PM

So what have we got thus far hinting at NaruSaku in the movie?

 

  1. Initial trailer hinting Naruto will have some kind of reaction to Sakura's increased womanhood
  2. Juxtaposed promotional material of Naruto and Sakura
  3. Yamato quote from 297 hinting Sakura loves Naruto

Am I missing something here?

 

^ repost. Are we missing anything?

 

btw, who can direct me to the post detailing all the times SP marketed their movies based on snippets?



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:08 PM

 

LOL What? That can't be possible. Kakashi is supposed to be 181cm, therefore 1cm taller than Naruto.

 

Naruto and Kakashi should look the same height (1cm means nothing), but Naruto clearly looks taller. Did Kakashi shrink? :lmao:

If this has already been discussed sorry, but what do the red arm bands mean? i didnt know kakashi wore one too is it a special division like anbu or a sign of leadership/respect or honor, or maybe it is just a new ninja fashion in the leaf


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:09 PM

Well, let's not get our hopes up too high, either. I don't think we're out of the game, and I even think we're at an advantage, but still. A little reservation is healthy. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than sorely disappointed from expecting too much.

Yeah, that's true. Confidence i good, but overconfidence is not.

 

By way your avatar is very cute.

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:11 PM

Sorry to butt in but I read both posts and I thought I should give some "evidence" :) lol

http://www.mangapand...hapter-244.html

Here Ya Go!!!! :D

OMG so Rin did love Kakashi.

 

Now ObiRin seems so odd to me. Rin loved kakashi but suddenly when obito dies she loves Obito. I mean what the hell kishi. This is not how love works.

 

If this is how NS is going to happen i.e Naruto won't be getting a justified ending where he is like a silver medal for Sakura, I really wish for an open ending.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:16 PM

Honestly I'm more pissed/disappointed by how Kishimoto went to resolve the parings  not that NH will be "canon" bc that ain't happening you just have to look at the story and foreshadowing to know that NH has zero of that and NS is the end game .  

 

The biggest mistake of Kishimoto is associating himself with biased Hinata kittenheads such as SP  if it weren't for them Hinata wouldn't have been given this much focus that I'm 100% sure .  To me its obvious that SP has some influence in the making of this filler disgusting plot  this smells more like something they would do then Kishimoto himself   it looks like something that they have suggested to Kishimoto  and I wouldn't be surprise if this is the case bc this whole project is collaboration  between Kishimoto and SP  so  they (SP) can have proffit and its disgusting bc it comes as Kishimoto selling his soul and long live work  to them  :sick: .  Things would have been so much better for this manga if another company was animating Naruto  I'm positive that we wouldn't be facing this BS right now .

 

But there is one reason we shouldn't fear about who's couple is gonna be canon  and that's bc the story doesn't support NH at all  NH has always been put in the theme  of nakamas  and nothing more  outside of Hinata's obsessed love which Kishimoto has emphasized that its doing more harm to Hinata then good and that she's not the one to reach to Naruto to support him and to be involved with his problems and life goals that role is given to  Sakura .

 

The second reason is even though SP is marketing this kitten and are biased Hinata lovers  they have never been supporters of NH but more of Hinata's who they see her as a "Love Martyr" and they love her for that  but don't want NH, You can see this in almost all of their fillers  with Hinata's love for Naruto   they always make her suffering bc she loves Naruto but in the end  she finds her place among Neji , her clan or her teammates  and If you think about it this kitteny filler plot of a movie is no different then this  that is why you have the Hyuga plot and Hanabi involved in here so she can find her place among them   , so for those who say that there is no chance for this movie to be about Hinata gaining closure and why  would it be the case  I suggest to think again    bc this is all Hinata is about , a  "Love Martyr Paring Fooder " that only purpose is to create drama in the romance plot  nothing more nothing less  . But like I said this plot events are unnecessary and  full of kitten  and it only makes this resolution of romance seems ridiculous and contradict manga events  bc Kishimoto had the perfect chance to resolve it with the IT  but no lets have more paring fooder dramu so SP can have a job and pocket full of $$$$  :down: .


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:17 PM

 

They redid the "Story" section on the film's website, and it has a subdivision for all the characters. That pic of the squares is a screenshot of the "Characters" page.

Thanks a lot! Wonder what does it say around there... AAAH WHY DON'T I KNOW JAPANESE??? T_T


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:18 PM

If NaruHina was intended to be canon, then the manga, especially in its final arc, would have reflected that. That isn't the case though. The manga seems to be pushing NS. Just relax, people.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:18 PM

OMG so Rin did love Kakashi.

 

Now ObiRin seems so odd to me. Rin loved kakashi but suddenly when obito dies she loves Obito. I mean what the hell kishi. This is not how love works.

 

If this is how NS is going to happen i.e Naruto won't be getting a justified ending where he isn't like a silver medal for Sakura, I really wish for an open ending.

 

I think what it was is that Rin may have always had feelings for Obito if you also saw some of Obito's flashbacks later on in the manga, like here, after Obito told her that her healing him was the same as saving the world to him.

http://www.starkana..../chapter/653/11 < Here ya go.

So I think even if she had feelings for Kakashi that she also cared a lot for Obito, and after his death, that grew into love after finding out from Kakashi that Obito loved her. I presume that that's why she also waited for him in the afterlife as he was dying. So that tells you a lot of how important to her both Kakashi and Obito are.



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:26 PM

SOoooooooo, could someone help me with the part on what they say about Sakura on that story part of the site or point me to somewhere where it was translated? Thanks a lot!


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:27 PM

I think what it was is that Rin may have always had feelings for Obito if you also saw some of Obito's flashbacks later on in the manga, like here, after Obito told her that her healing him was the same as saving the world to him.

http://www.starkana..../chapter/653/11 < Here ya go.

So I think even if she had feelings for Kakashi that she also cared a lot for Obito, and after his death, that grew into love after finding out from Kakashi that Obito loved her. I presume that that's why she also waited for him in the afterlife as he was dying. So that tells you a lot of how important to her both Kakashi and Obito are.


Naruto and Sakura anyone!!! PLUS, Yamato's comment comes into play as well.


 


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:29 PM

We may not have any romantic resolution in manga and even in the movie. :zaru:  Maybe they'll kill Sakura and have Hinata console Naruto.

I'm betting on the reverse.



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:30 PM

 

I think what it was is that Rin may have always had feelings for Obito if you also saw some of Obito's flashbacks later on in the manga, like here, after Obito told her that her healing him was the same as saving the world to him.

http://www.starkana..../chapter/653/11 < Here ya go.

So I think even if she had feelings for Kakashi that she also cared a lot for Obito, and after his death, that grew into love after finding out from Kakashi that Obito loved her. I presume that that's why she also waited for him in the afterlife as he was dying. So that tells you a lot of how important to her both Kakashi and Obito are.

The bolded part, even if true just seems a bit odd. She said "what about my feelings" after kakashi told her that obito LOVED her, and I don't know what to think of it now. ObiRin ruined for me as well.

 

But in NS Sakura already know how much Naruto loves her(thanks to sai) and she still seems to have no problem in saying I LOVE YOU to Sasuke. I do think it is  more worse than ObiRin right now, but yeah it will remain far better than SS and after 693 a little bit equivalent to NH.

 

Just have to somehow w8 for the last chapters and finally get to know whether NS happening will be able to justify NS after 693 or not. My mind says Naruto will become a silver medal, My heart says Kishi will find a way to make NS canon with Naruto having total unconditional love from Sakura and without him becoming silver medal, but unfortunately what my mind says has always come out to be true in the end. I hope this record of my mind winning breaks this time.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:33 PM

Let them enjoy this marketing because it will only be their last time to be happy. We all know NS is going to happen, but not in a easy way.

My only worry is will it happens in a satisfying way or not ?



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:34 PM

My only worry is will it happens in a satisfying way or not ?

No, that ship has sailed. We'd need more than two chapters to fix the mess Kishimoto made in a convincing way.



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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:34 PM

Soooooo?What did I miss?Nothing?


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 03:34 PM

 

^ repost. Are we missing anything?

 

btw, who can direct me to the post detailing all the times SP marketed their movies based on snippets?

 

You mean like Sai telling Sakura Naruto loves him, or when he asked Naruto why he didn't confess he bought up how he can't keep his promise so he doesn't have the right to confess? Her actual confession is a sticky topic, I am of the personal beleif that it was made more from the brain than the heart? Ofcourse we have the part later with Sai who talked about how Sakura cares so much about Naruto that she willing to make the ultimate sacrife for him. We have the part when Minato asked him if Sakura was her Girlfriend his reply was something like that, which is the strongest hint, less than 24 hours before in the current timeline Naruto did not deny the possability of Sakura being his girlfriend, and ofcourse there is Kushina's final words to him about finding a girl like her, and Minato's first thought about Sakura was her reminding him of his late wife, (or would that be current with them both being dead?)

 

There is also the forshadowing using past generations, first we had Yahiko and Konon, the students of Jiraiya that wanted world peace and were falling in love but Yahiko ended up sacrificing his life for her, then we have Jiraiya and his love for Tsunade, something that he never got pass, but she never looked pass his idiotic outlook until it was too late and he died after it looked like Tsunade might be finally seeing Jiraiya for more than just the pervert he acted as. And finally we have Obito and Rin, two almost complete parralels, with her death almost completely distroying Obito and setting off the events of the manga. Naruto has been set up as being the child who will succeed where his predocessors failed. They all wanted to save the world but failed, Naruto didn't, they all gave up on their dreams, Naruto didn't, they all failed to be with the only girl they ever loved who was also their teammate but failed...Naruto has to succedd here as well. In fact Naruto falling for Hinata would be a manga first, a charactor in the manga who moved on from one person to another.

 

I can't shake the feeling that Kishi had this dumb idea for a movie a couple of years ago and he screwed up his entire plans in the manga to force the issue.


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