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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Aww this is cute So what is exactly going on here

 

Looks like a date between Menma and Sakura from the RtN universe, and a kiss :) Which is why Kushina is snapping a photo.

[Awes9]

So...this begs the question, what exactly Naruto did to fix it? Removing it? That's what it seems like. It's like literally redefined the whole concept of the story. Why do that? No one said it's bad, just not handled perfectly. I don't get it anymore. That's like saying the end of Death Note, everyone is at peace. No, realistically, kitten happens.
Like I always say, the wrong man got this concept. Remember how many of us kept thinking of a good potential moments that it would benefit the series greatly and even others would agree? Then we always ended up with something new but bad idea. Why you think I have invented this "mojo" of mine to think nothing. Because it's always too different and too mishandled. That's why. That's the secret.
Oh boy...

people can now take selfies, what do you want more ? People like you are just whining for the sake of whining.
As much as I disagree with Sasuke at last he had an idea. What did Naruto ever give aside from "believe it""trust me" and other empty words ? Hell even at the end Sasuke is still the one looking for answers, pffff...

You unbeliever just can't understand.

Edited by Awes9, 02 January 2015 - 05:32 PM.

[Gaara's hair]

This is clearly what the RtN world is like;

 

Is he licking her face while the others watch 

[Lady Lys]

Wha?

Can't I fangirl once in a while?! 

[ramenanmitsu]

Well, I looked back on this story with statemens that came up from "The Last". Let's see what story was about, and I'm not going to twist fact's:
1. Shinobi - only tools? (Same place where Naruto started his own nindo to fight for only what he thinks is right) True - Naruto was tool of Hagomoro's plan, SO6P used him to settle the conflict, same did Black Zetsu with Uchiha's.
2. Hardworker vs Natural genius? Hard work will benefit in future (Rock Lee, Gai, TenTen, Sakura, Naruto) False - Rock Lee got nothing, Gai got a weechair for life, TenTen - became misirable, Sakura - became dustcleaner, Naruto achived nothing with his own powers, he only got Hokage title because of Kakshi.
3. Loneliness of Naruto - was his motivation to become someone better than he was, he wanted to make friends, with people. (that's why he used to be prankster) False - Hinata was always there for Naruto.
4. First one who acknowledged Naruto more that jinchuriki was - Iruka. False - Hinata was first on that.
5. Naruto was the only one who understood Sasuke's feelings after he lost his parents, so that's why he wanted to be his friend. False - Naruto saw Sasuke only as rival.
6. Your destiny(Fate) determines your outcome - True - Neji was destined to die for Hinata, and it Naruto wasn't a boy who achived anything by his hardwork he was reincarnation of one strong person, that's all. Sakura that tried to fight a life of mare woman to be strong one - ended up nowhere, as much as Hinata was destined as Hime, and was irrelevant to the whole story - became one main person to the whole world, because of plot reasons. So what is written by Fate - cannot be changed.
7. Naruto's maturity of feelings (One when he fough for his love (Sakura) as we though, against a person who know none of love (Gaara) and pu his life on line, Two when he risked his life to save Tsunade, bring Sasuke back, give'd Sakura - POAL) False - he was a spoiled kid, didn't know what is love to female until 18, and was led only by rivaly with Sasuke.
 
Part 1 end
 
8. Saving Gaara - because he was one of his closest friends, who achived what Naruto wanted, and because he had suffered almost same childhood. False - Hinata was always there for Naruto. So he only went to save Gaara because of mission.
9. Naruto - the only one who can supprass 4th Hokage - True - Naruto managed to finish Rasengan.
10. You can only trust money (Kakuzu) - as we saw the ending and part 3 - True for Kishimoto.
11. You can't trust anyone except yourself (Zetsu) - True, Madara, Obito and etc. 
12. Nagato's way of "justice" - True - Naruto kicked Sasuke's ass, so he only lived the way Naruto wanted it, he didn't changed his feelings, it wasn't shown to us.
13. There is exit to this cursed world (Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't change anything at all.
14 . Next generation will surpass previous (to Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't get a girl he loved (due to original Manga), he didn't became hokage as Itachi/Jiraiya taugh him, he didn't became good father at all.
15. I never go back on my word! That's my nindo, my ninja way! (Naruto) - False, didn't confesse to Sakura after saving Sasuke, didn't changed Hyuga clan, didn't found answer to how exit this cirlce of hatred curse.
16. Mother dying wish came true - False not even one bit of it.
17. Uchiha - the one who's love is the strongest one - False? - Obito awakes MS due to strong feelings to Rin - true. But only time when Sasuke awaked something with MS - was due to his feelings to Karin, and where did that ended up? Nowhere. 
18. "Those who break the rules..." - False - Hinata many times left her teammates on battlefield only to fail on the way to Naruto.
 
And that's not even all "messages" that "The Last" and chapter 700 sends you.
So far story will teach little childrens only:
- Be where you are, if you worth enough - everything will come in hands of yours.

As of now, I'm super annoyed that this guy had the nerve to talk about "loneliness" and lecture Neji, Sasuke, Gaara and Nagato of all people. His words have no depth and they are all empty promises.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 02 January 2015 - 05:35 PM.

[六道仙人]

Hiretsu-sama :3:3

[Gaara's hair]

Wha?

Can't I fangirl once in a while?! 

...I guess Grand sophisticated Italian Duchess 

[Advaith]

Well, I looked back on this story with statemens that came up from "The Last". Let's see what story was about, and I'm not going to twist fact's:

1. Shinobi - only tools? (Same place where Naruto started his own nindo to fight for only what he thinks is right) True - Naruto was tool of Hagomoro's plan, SO6P used him to settle the conflict, same did Black Zetsu with Uchiha's.

2. Hardworker vs Natural genius? Hard work will benefit in future (Rock Lee, Gai, TenTen, Sakura, Naruto) False - Rock Lee got nothing, Gai got a weechair for life, TenTen - became misirable, Sakura - became dustcleaner, Naruto achived nothing with his own powers, he only got Hokage title because of Kakshi.

3. Loneliness of Naruto - was his motivation to become someone better than he was, he wanted to make friends, with people. (that's why he used to be prankster) False - Hinata was always there for Naruto.

4. First one who acknowledged Naruto more that jinchuriki was - Iruka. False - Hinata was first on that.

5. Naruto was the only one who understood Sasuke's feelings after he lost his parents, so that's why he wanted to be his friend. False - Naruto saw Sasuke only as rival.

6. Your destiny(Fate) determines your outcome - True - Neji was destined to die for Hinata, and it Naruto wasn't a boy who achived anything by his hardwork he was reincarnation of one strong person, that's all. Sakura that tried to fight a life of mare woman to be strong one - ended up nowhere, as much as Hinata was destined as Hime, and was irrelevant to the whole story - became one main person to the whole world, because of plot reasons. So what is written by Fate - cannot be changed.

7. Naruto's maturity of feelings (One when he fough for his love (Sakura) as we though, against a person who know none of love (Gaara) and pu his life on line, Two when he risked his life to save Tsunade, bring Sasuke back, give'd Sakura - POAL) False - he was a spoiled kid, didn't know what is love to female until 18, and was led only by rivaly with Sasuke.

 

Part 1 end

 

8. Saving Gaara - because he was one of his closest friends, who achived what Naruto wanted, and because he had suffered almost same childhood. False - Hinata was always there for Naruto. So he only went to save Gaara because of mission.

9. Naruto - the only one who can supprass 4th Hokage - True - Naruto managed to finish Rasengan.

10. You can only trust money (Kakuzu) - as we saw the ending and part 3 - True for Kishimoto.

11. You can't trust anyone except yourself (Zetsu) - True, Madara, Obito and etc. 

12. Nagato's way of "justice" - True - Naruto kicked Sasuke's ass, so he only lived the way Naruto wanted it, he didn't changed his feelings, it wasn't shown to us.

13. There is exit to this cursed world (Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't change anything at all.

14 . Next generation will surpass previous (to Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't get a girl he loved (due to original Manga), he didn't became hokage as Itachi/Jiraiya taugh him, he didn't became good father at all.

15. I never go back on my word! That's my nindo, my ninja way! (Naruto) - False, didn't confesse to Sakura after saving Sasuke, didn't changed Hyuga clan, didn't found answer to how exit this cirlce of hatred curse.

16. Mother dying wish came true - False not even one bit of it.

17. Uchiha - the one who's love is the strongest one - False? - Obito awakes MS due to strong feelings to Rin - true. But only time when Sasuke awaked something with MS - was due to his feelings to Karin, and where did that ended up? Nowhere. 

18. "Those who break the rules..." - False - Hinata many times left her teammates on battlefield only to fail on the way to Naruto.

 

And that's not even all "messages" that "The Last" and chapter 700 sends you.

So far story will teach little childrens only:

- Be where you are, if you worth enough - everything will come in hands of yours.

THIS 

 

Truth

[NarutoUzumaki01]

As of now, I'm super annoyed that this guy had the nerve to talk about "loneliness" and lecture Neji, Sasuke, Gaara and Nagato of all people. His words have no depth and they are all empty promises.

This is outrageous, people who claimed The Last - canon, did awful work, becuase on opposite - Road to Ninja had it ALL, to be considered as canon, IC characters, plot relevant plot with old enemy that is known about in actuall story.

The Last served only one purpose - to justify Hinata as choise of Naruto, and it's failed even this way, I'm not gonna talk about how other aspects of movie is out of control to the whole Naruto universe in general. Whole story was revrited in worst possible way.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I looked back on this story with statemens that came up from "The Last". Let's see what story was about, and I'm not going to twist fact's:
1. Shinobi - only tools? (Same place where Naruto started his own nindo to fight for only what he thinks is right) True - Naruto was tool of Hagomoro's plan, SO6P used him to settle the conflict, same did Black Zetsu with Uchiha's.
2. Hardworker vs Natural genius? Hard work will benefit in future (Rock Lee, Gai, TenTen, Sakura, Naruto) False - Rock Lee got nothing, Gai got a weechair for life, TenTen - became misirable, Sakura - became dustcleaner, Naruto achived nothing with his own powers, he only got Hokage title because of Kakshi.
3. Loneliness of Naruto - was his motivation to become someone better than he was, he wanted to make friends, with people. (that's why he used to be prankster) False - Hinata was always there for Naruto.
4. First one who acknowledged Naruto more that jinchuriki was - Iruka. False - Hinata was first on that.
5. Naruto was the only one who understood Sasuke's feelings after he lost his parents, so that's why he wanted to be his friend. False - Naruto saw Sasuke only as rival.
6. Your destiny(Fate) determines your outcome - True - Neji was destined to die for Hinata, and it Naruto wasn't a boy who achived anything by his hardwork he was reincarnation of one strong person, that's all. Sakura that tried to fight a life of mare woman to be strong one - ended up nowhere, as much as Hinata was destined as Hime, and was irrelevant to the whole story - became one main person to the whole world, because of plot reasons. So what is written by Fate - cannot be changed.
7. Naruto's maturity of feelings (One when he fough for his love (Sakura) as we though, against a person who know none of love (Gaara) and pu his life on line, Two when he risked his life to save Tsunade, bring Sasuke back, give'd Sakura - POAL) False - he was a spoiled kid, didn't know what is love to female until 18, and was led only by rivaly with Sasuke.
 
Part 1 end
 
8. Saving Gaara - because he was one of his closest friends, who achived what Naruto wanted, and because he had suffered almost same childhood. False - Hinata was always there for Naruto. So he only went to save Gaara because of mission.
9. Naruto - the only one who can supprass 4th Hokage - True - Naruto managed to finish Rasengan.
10. You can only trust money (Kakuzu) - as we saw the ending and part 3 - True for Kishimoto.
11. You can't trust anyone except yourself (Zetsu) - True, Madara, Obito and etc. 
12. Nagato's way of "justice" - True - Naruto kicked Sasuke's ass, so he only lived the way Naruto wanted it, he didn't changed his feelings, it wasn't shown to us.
13. There is exit to this cursed world (Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't change anything at all.
14 . Next generation will surpass previous (to Naruto) - False - Naruto didn't get a girl he loved (due to original Manga), he didn't became hokage as Itachi/Jiraiya taugh him, he didn't became good father at all.
15. I never go back on my word! That's my nindo, my ninja way! (Naruto) - False, didn't confesse to Sakura after saving Sasuke, didn't changed Hyuga clan, didn't found answer to how exit this cirlce of hatred curse.
16. Mother dying wish came true - False not even one bit of it.
17. Uchiha - the one who's love is the strongest one - False? - Obito awakes MS due to strong feelings to Rin - true. But only time when Sasuke awaked something with MS - was due to his feelings to Karin, and where did that ended up? Nowhere. 
18. "Those who break the rules..." - False - Hinata many times left her teammates on battlefield only to fail on the way to Naruto.
 
And that's not even all "messages" that "The Last" and chapter 700 sends you.
So far story will teach little childrens only:
- Be where you are, if you worth enough - everything will come in hands of yours.

You should be banned for making me hate the series further...

[Gaara's hair]

people can now take selfies, what do you want more ? People like you are just whining for the sake of whining.
As much as I disagree with Sasuke at last he had an idea. What did Naruto ever give aside from "believe it""trust me" and other empty words ? Hell even at the end Sasuke is still the one looking for answers, pffff...
You unbeliever just can't understand.

It's too must for my puny brain to understand 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

You should be banned for making me hate the series further...

I see you asking for part 2...

[Change]

Oh my..they said that? Lol I feel so behind on the whole naruto hate in Japan

Yea, I'll look for it when im on my computer

[RyohkiFan]

As of now, I'm super annoyed that this guy had the nerve to talk about "loneliness" and lecture Neji, Sasuke, Gaara and Nagato of all people. His words have no depth and they are all empty promises.

Ohhh you're Ramen, it's nice to meet you :) The guy just contradicts himself everytime he's speaks and it's shown in the last :/

[redrose3443]

A sketch I found on tumblr for Tobirama lovers; http://40.media.tumb...qajvo1_1280.png

[RyohkiFan]

Yea, I'll look for it when im on my computer

Oh, thank you very much I hope it won't bother you :o

[RyohkiFan]

A sketch I found on tumblr for Tobirama lovers; http://40.media.tumb...qajvo1_1280.png

I love Tobirama!! His attitude cracks me up xD

[Gaara's hair]

How many of Tobirama lovers are in here? Raise your hand! 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Such ending just wiped out 90% of story, really, in epilogue, we never saw anything changed at all, apart from technologies, so that part about "bring revolution" to world of shinobi was about Sreve Jobs, or what?

[Atheck]

I didn't say it was forgery. I just said it was unreliable when most people don't know this otaku magazine existed and therefore the voters only represent a small portion.

Remember the character poll chatte posted? It had Sakura in the top three but that poll itself isn't a reliable enough source because it's a poll asking Japanese businesswoman.

The total actual character polls are in the databook. Go check it out. I might be wrong but I thought
1. Sasuke
2. Naruto
3. Kakashi
4. Iruka
5. Shikamaru
6. Sakura
7. Neji

I may be wrong though.

 

Didn't you extract this listing from 2chan? It's hardly much better in terms of officialness in the polling. Characters such as Itachi, Sasori, Minato have been ranking highly at popularity for some time now. Moreover, if what you say is true about Naruto's name being stigmatise then he should be ranking much lower than second.