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[TouKen4Life3g]

Welcome back, Ramen!

Happy New Year! Hope you're fine with everything. Addressing the last post, I did recall you posting stuff of when we're thinking logical of SS, which basically the same thoughts we have. It's matter of days of when you find them thinking thoroughly rather than, "Eh, whatever..." It's like you said, they don't care about pairings, it's just Team 7 so basically, they're just whatever when it comes to romance side. It is indifferent feeling, that's for sure.

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I mean if this isn't a clear demonstration of Kishi not knowing his fanbase, than I don't know what it is. 

He get's everything wrong, NH was never popular in Japan yet SP and him made a movie about it, of course gaining so much money opening week with false advertisement

Anyways Happy New Years Ramen!

Edited by TheMagicConch, 02 January 2015 - 02:28 PM.

[Popuri]

@Ramenanmitsu

Didn't you say you wanted to translate a blog where SP said that Neji touches Hinata boobs? Or something like that. Have you finished?

[Nostradamus]

Welcome back James and Ramen.

Happy New Year to both of you.

[六道仙人]

nh has logic only for hikikomori and sicko people.

[James S Cassidy]

I mean if this isn't a clear demonstration of Kishi not knowing his fanbase, than I don't know what it is. 

He get's everything wrong, NH was never popular in Japan yet SP and him made a movie about it, of course gaining so much money opening week with false advertisement

Anyways Happy New Years Ramen!

I going to say this.

Whoever directed and wrote this Naruto movie....you make Micheal Bay look like Stanley Kubrick.

 

Welcome back James and Ramen.

Happy New Year to both of you.

 

Thanks.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 02 January 2015 - 02:33 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Welcome back, Ramen!
Happy New Year! Hope you're fine with everything. Addressing the last post, I did recall you posting stuff of when we're thinking logical of SS, which basically the same thoughts we have. It's matter of days of when you find them thinking thoroughly rather than, "Eh, whatever..." It's like you said, they don't care about pairings, it's just Team 7 so basically, they're just whatever when it comes to romance side. It is indifferent feeling, that's for sure.

Happy New Years! I'm fine except for the broken leg, stomach ache and fever I'm having right now. But I still want to post because I'm bored!

Exactly. Thanks for understanding. It's not that the fandom supports abusive relationship or anything, they just don't care about romance.
  

I mean if this isn't a clear demonstration of Kishi not knowing his fanbase, than I don't know what it is. 
He get's everything wrong, NH was never popular in Japan yet SP and him made a movie about it, of course gaining so much money opening week with false advertisement
Anyways Happy New Years Ramen!

Happy New Years!

It's funny cause the NH fans are the ones who are posting one-star review on Yahoo movie review and ppl think that the reviewers are all butthurt NS fans lol. As if NS fans even cared to watch the movie when the advertisement was all Kakashi and Sasuke, then later NH.

@Ramenanmitsu
Didn't you say you wanted to translate a blog where SP said that Neji touches Hinata boobs? Or something like that. Have you finished?

  
Oh yeah I did. I'll do it when I'm back in health.

Welcome back James and Ramen.
Happy New Year to both of you.

Thanks. I hope the hate is strong.

Me? I turned from anti-THE LAST to anti-THE LAST, anti-NARUTO manga, and anti-Team seven.

Oh and about Hinata? I never cared enough about her to even hate her.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 02 January 2015 - 02:39 PM.

[FireFox]

Happy New Years! I'm fine except for the broken leg, stomach ache and fever I'm having right now. But I still want to post because I'm bored!

Exactly. Thanks for understanding. It's not that the fandom supports abusive relationship or anything, they just don't care about romance.
  Happy New Years!

It's funny cause the NH fans are the ones who are posting one-star review on Yahoo movie review and ppl think that the reviewers are all butthurt NS fans lol. As if NS fans even cared to watch the movie when the advertisement was all Kakashi and Sasuke, then later NH.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS NOW   THIS IS PURE GOLD       .

 

Btw how did you broke your leg  ? So sorry I know the feeling broke mine 3 times   .

[Popuri]

 
Oh yeah I did. I'll do it when I'm back in health.
Thanks. I hope the hate is strong.

Me? I turned from anti-THE LAST to anti-THE LAST, anti-NARUTO manga, and anti-Team seven.

Oh and about Hinata? I never cared enough about her to even hate her.

The latest new comment that you add, I'm speechless 

 

I'm waiting for the blog translation, ramen. I've tried google translate. I think I get the point but without proper translation it's like I get nothing. 

[ramenanmitsu]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!  ARE YOU EVEN SERIOUS NOW   THIS IS PURE GOLD       .
 
Btw how did you broke your leg  ? So sorry I know the feeling broke mine 3 times   .

If you use google translation you can see how many one-star reviews were looking forward to this movie and see how the NH relationship develops as a NH fan. Well after the first few sentences, you can also see how disgusted they were with the way NH was portrayed and how they quit being a fan.

[Advaith]

Happy New Years! I'm fine except for the broken leg, stomach ache and fever I'm having right now. 

Get well soon.

[Hanabi]

If you use google translation you can see how many one-star reviews were looking forward to this movie and see how the NH relationship develops as a NH fan. Well after the first few sentences, you can also see how disgusted they were with the way NH was portrayed and how they quit being a fan.

yeah i saw that too

 

yahoo

 

今回の映画はナルトとヒナタが結ばれると知って凄く楽しみにしていました。
私はずっとヒナタの恋を応援していました。

いざ、映画を見てみると。
私はあんなお話になっているとは思いませんでした。
あんなかっこ悪いナルトを見たかった訳ではなく。
時間が経つにつれドキドキ感が何ともいたたまれない気持ちになってしまいました。
術の事など他色々矛盾も感じますし、ヒナタもあの描写だとただマフラーを編み続けている痛い女になってしまっている。
私の好きなヒナタとナルトは、そこにはいませんでした。

サスケの登場時間の短さにも驚かされ…。
ナルトと結ばれた事はヒナタの恋がかなって良かったね…！って感じなのですが
素直に喜べませんでした。

友人は感無量…！と言ってましたが私はそう思えませんでした。

とは言え、ナルトとヒナタが結ばれた事によって新たな生命が誕生し
次世代へと道筋が出来、新たに楽しみも増えたとは思うのですが…
もしかすると今回の映画で何とも言えない気持ちが残ってしまったので
次世代に思い入れが入るかは解りませんが、とりあえず見守っていきたいと思います。

率直な意見最後の映画があれでは残念です。

I was looking forward to really know that this time of the movie is tied Naruto and Hinata.

I was much cheering the love of Hinata.

 

Emergency, and a look at the movie.

I did not think it is that made Anna talk.

Cry mean I wanted to look at the Anna parentheses bad Naruto.

Pounding feeling has become downright Itatamarenai feeling as time goes by.

Etc. then you feel also other various contradictions that of the operator, it is turned into painful woman who has continued knitting Hinata also that's that depiction only muffler.

My favorite Hinata and Naruto did not stomach there.

 

Also surprised to shortness of Sasuke appeared time ....

That was tied with Naruto I was good makes the love of Hinata ...! The feeling is but the me

I did not rejoice obediently.

 

Friends fullness of the heart ...! I was saying that I did not think so.

 

However, a new life is born by that Naruto and Hinata were tied

Can route to the next generation, but new I think the fun also increased ...

Since the leftover is indescribable feeling in this movie possibly

I do not know fondness enters the next generation, but I want to watch anyway.

 

Candid opinions last movie is disappointing in there.

 

 

[ichigo500]

A long time ago I saw one post after the LAST came out that made a comment about Sakura's growth being in reset after chapter 699. That's the only post I can recall, sorry. And I think I posted that here.

And as you said the huge victimizing of Sakura started AFTER the LAST. People were sympathetic towards Naruto regarding Sakura, but all that sympathy turned into hate after the movie. The more sympathetic they were the more they felt betrayed by Naruto. People who hated on Sakura for how she treated Naruto (especially the NH fans) now victimizes her and hates on Naruto, because now they think she was a poor victim who got harassed by a man who never loved her and being called a liar despite said man being a bigger liar. They think they were "mislead" to hate her when the real one that deserves hate was Naruto all along. So your assumptions are right.

Ooh there weren't a lot of reactions about sakura's nor Sasuke's character assassination :/ at least, almost everybody noticed that the pairings destroyed the manga ! I think every character is a victim...victim of SP and kishi's twisted mind and writing, victim of some characters "popularity" ...

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I going to say this.

Whoever directed and wrote this Naruto movie....you make Micheal Bay look like Stanley Kubrick.

 

 

Thanks.

I know, it so sad :c

It's funny cause the NH fans are the ones who are posting one-star review on Yahoo movie review and ppl think that the reviewers are all butthurt NS fans lol. As if NS fans even cared to watch the movie when the advertisement was all Kakashi and Sasuke, then later NH.

Well haven't you heard, anybody who didn't like The Last or the last chapters are all butthurt NS fans

But they can't coup with the idea that even people from their fandom doesn't like The Last and stop talking with logic(you're last sentence), it's obviously butthurt NS fans trying to ruin Naruto

 

Talking about NH fans, did you know takL said that Junko didn't silence Kishimoto and just wanted for Chie(or was it Nana) to keep talking(apparently Kishimoto interrupted her) and the tweet that said that was probably mistranslated.  He's just telling lies at this point 

Edited by TheMagicConch, 02 January 2015 - 02:57 PM.

[FireFox]

If you use google translation you can see how many one-star reviews were looking forward to this movie and see how the NH relationship develops as a NH fan. Well after the first few sentences, you can also see how disgusted they were with the way NH was portrayed and how they quit being a fan.

Oh I've seen the rumors I just didn't knew if they were legit  until you confirm them  now  LOL . And trust me I know all their reasoning for NH  and this movie contradicted them all  as well as the whole manga  basically all the NH were made useless bc there was no point to them at all Hinata's confession and their holly  handhold meant nothing  NH happened bc of a scarf and aspulled filler flashback  nothing more nothing less  .  Its still funny though      .

[Awes9]

Removed my post because I got everything wrong but could you tell me ramen what are people's opinion on Kishimoto ?

[ichigo500]

Oh I've seen the rumors I just didn't knew if they were legit  until you confirm them  now  LOL . And trust me I know all their reasoning for NH  and this movie contradicted them all  as well as the whole manga  basically all the NH were made useless bc there was no point to them at all Hinata's confession and their holly  handhold meant nothing  NH happened bc of a scarf and aspulled filler flashback  nothing more nothing less  .  Its still funny though      .

They can't even make NH canon properly without retconing the entire manga !
And once again, this proved that neji died for absolutely NOTHING ! He was way more developed than a lot of other characters...Hinata being one of them..I really liked Neji...
It's good to see some rational NH fans...at least they care about naruto and hinata's character development ...

[TouKen4Life3g]

Happy New Years! I'm fine except for the broken leg, stomach ache and fever I'm having right now. But I still want to post because I'm bored!

Exactly. Thanks for understanding. It's not that the fandom supports abusive relationship or anything, they just don't care about romance.
  Happy New Years!

It's funny cause the NH fans are the ones who are posting one-star review on Yahoo movie review and ppl think that the reviewers are all butthurt NS fans lol. As if NS fans even cared to watch the movie when the advertisement was all Kakashi and Sasuke, then later NH.

  
Oh yeah I did. I'll do it when I'm back in health.
Thanks. I hope the hate is strong.

Me? I turned from anti-THE LAST to anti-THE LAST, anti-NARUTO manga, and anti-Team seven.

Oh and about Hinata? I never cared enough about her to even hate her.

Yeah. Which in a way tells you who SP truly are after and it's a shame because it's like all they can think of is romance. This series isn't romance but that's not to say it can't end with one. NaruSaku was a pairing that can happen at any genre, while others need redefined logic to their likings. Take The Last. The movie is pure shoujo and no one can say otherwise. The actions are much less than any other movies, yet it's supposed to be Shounen. What? I read it for story but action is like the very second. That's like One Piece doing that. Could you imagine how insane that would be?

Let me say this: SS and NH type of relationship could work when done from the top and alteration has to be made. Sakura has to drop her real personality and Sasuke has to be sympathetic to her to make SS work. Naruto has to drop his personality and be way too calmed and serious as Hinata remain the same to make it work. Think about it. A lot of series with shy or no confidence girl usually pair up with a guy who is bored at life or not really know what to expect. A energetic girl usually ends up with a guy who is goofy in any ways and/or energetic that they have to calm him down. The funny thing is Fairy Tail once parallel Naruto pairings because it had similar traits, even for SK. Sadly, money spoke and the rest is history.

So they too wrote reviews? Wow, the plot thickens.

I pretty much went the same route as you did on anti. I'm planning to write my last LAPs concerning on Naruto and tomorrow is part 1. I got my materials ready.

Never the less, it's good to see you back. Hope you recover very soon. :)

[AHK]

A long time ago I saw one post after the LAST came out that made a comment about Sakura's growth being in reset after chapter 699. That's the only post I can recall, sorry. And I think I posted that here.
And as you said the huge victimizing of Sakura started AFTER the LAST. People were sympathetic towards Naruto regarding Sakura, but all that sympathy turned into hate after the movie. The more sympathetic they were the more they felt betrayed by Naruto. People who hated on Sakura for how she treated Naruto (especially the NH fans) now victimizes her and hates on Naruto, because now they think she was a poor victim who got harassed by a man who never loved her and being called a liar despite said man being a bigger liar. They think they were "mislead" to hate her when the real one that deserves hate was Naruto all along. So your assumptions are right.

Hmm. Ok. Thanks! If you don't mind, if you find any posts that criticize the both of them equally, would you mind sharing those? I'm interested in those responses.

It's funny, looking back we said that we're fans of the series and the characters before the pairing, but in hindsight, it's easy to see how much Naruto and Sakura were interconnected through the pairing. NS didn't happen, which on its own might have been fine, but the result of NS not happening was the complete destruction of both characters equally, so much so that it's impossible to recognize either one of them. Naruto was forced to be a piece of scum, and Sakura turned into a superficial shallow woman. Looking back, it's clear just how much their NS depended on their relationship, and how much their characters depended on NS.

Just goes to show how terrible they both became.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Hmm. Ok. Thanks! If you don't mind, if you find any posts that criticize the both of them equally, would you mind sharing those? I'm interested in those responses.

It's funny, looking back we said that we're fans of the series and the characters before the pairing, but in hindsight, it's easy to see how much Naruto and Sakura were interconnected through the pairing. NS didn't happen, which on its own might have been fine, but the result of NS not happening was the complete destruction of both characters equally, so much so that it's impossible to recognize either one of them. Naruto was forced to be a piece of scum, and Sakura turned into a superficial shallow woman. Looking back, it's clear just how much their NS depended on their relationship, and how much their characters depended on NS.

Just goes to show how terrible they both became.

I got it. He did post it a long time about looking in depth of SS and pretty much, when you think hard, yeah, it's pretty bad.

Give me a moment to find it.