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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:12 PM

I guess that the ones who really care about the manga are the ones who saw that chapter 699 and 700 were just terrible. and they were because they had to make some kind of stupid prlogue to the new series and movie. And I don't really understand how can't people see that. 

I'm really beginning to think that Shonen manga become more and more about how much money you make and how many fanservice you can give (of course, not all of them... but I think it's really going to be more like this from now on ... ) 

I think I'll really start to look after Seinen mangas more than Shonen. 

And this is why I decided to drop manga for GOOD !!!  bc there is no purpose in telling a story when all it matters is  fanservice  not to mention how toxic this fandoms in general  are . This whole world after this ending just managed to disgust me till no end  and I seriously regret for picking up  something like this to read   when the only thing it does is butchering literature kittens on logic basic reading comprehension  and what not  .

 

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:15 PM

I don't get it either, I liked them in part 1 because even tough at the beginning they were disconnected they were slowly learning to understand each other but then in part 2 it has been turned into this so called unbreakable bond when it had nothing to stand on, I was already raising eyebrows when at the end of part 1 Sasuke told Naruto he was his best friend and all the extra bias (sorry but as soon as Sasuke tried to pierce Narutos heart this nonsense should have stopped) but in part 2 it has been turned into a monstruosity Narutos and especially Sakura's feelings don't make any kind of sense and their devotion towards a man who has done nothing to deserve it is mindblowing. The worst part tough is not that Kishi can get away with this garbage it's that many people find it endearing.

The only level of understanding I've seen is from NS POV  S/N  a little but it was more rivalry then anything else  the rest I totally agree with . 


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:22 PM

Guys, have you seen this ? apparently another interview, but I don't know if it's legit :It looks like something an NH fan could write  

 

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:25 PM

Guys, have you seen this ? apparently another interview, but I don't know if it's legit :It looks like something an NH fan could write  
 
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Fake.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:30 PM

naah fake. the interviewer would never address to kishi like in that way.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:32 PM

Ramen please explain to me how does Narusasu and SS are the same thing, as much as I hate Narusasu at least it's fleshed out during the whole manga with tons of flashbacks and Naruto can stand up to Sasuke. SS on the contrary is never fleshed out beyond Sakura's shallow feelings, even Sakura's flashback is of her fangirling about Sasuke while Sasuke is completely apathetic, there's nothing from Sasuke's side during the whole part 2 while for Narusasu you can see how much Naruto affects him.

Sure, as a hater of all SN/SS/SK I don't see the difference of these three. Sasuke was shown to care for Naruto/Sakura/Karin at one point of his life and disregard them at another. The only person who really affected Sasuke and changed him was Itachi. The others are second-handed bonds compared to that. And you might argue about chapter 698, but to me chapters from 670 or so onward are asspulls after asspulls so I don't count them as canon "developments". But that's just me. I can't speak for the NARUTO fandom in Japan so feel free to disagree.

Sasuke treats Sakura like horsehit and Sakura doesnt even stand up to him even one time but thats okay because the 2 are main characters wow.

Stop putting words in my mouth. I said that ppl were okay with chapter 699 and 700 and the pairings. However, they started to hate only on NH because a NH-focused movie destroyed the story. They are okay with the pairings, or should I say, indifferent? It has nothing to do with them being main characters, but more to do with how people don't give a kitten about pairings.

As for the "coolest guy" comment are you telling me people over there accepts it ?

No. That was me pointing the double standards of the NS forum here. People here were alright with Naruto calling Obito a "cool guy", after he killed his parents, killed his friend and did a whole mass-murdering. And yet, these guys can't stand people being alright with Sakura forgiving Sasuke, when Sasuke has done something far less worse than what Obito did. That's what I call a double-standard.

But I shouldn't be surprised after all a kitten character like Sasuke is the most popular over there.

Good to know you view Sasuke as "kitten". Although, I don't share your opinion until chapter 698, now I do.

I may dislike NH but it doesnt compare to how disgusting SS is, if thats the japanese's fandom view then I don't want anything to do with them, that an abusive relationship based on shallow feelings is deemed ok completely conflicts with my values (and any sane person's values for that matter).

I think it's quite alright for you to have your own opinion and get together with people who share your opinion. As long as you don't be judgemental and insult a fandom because they are indifferent to an anime couple/don't share your opinion on hating it all is good.

It seems to me that most of these people are kittening about why their personal's favorite didnt get more screentime instead of why the story failed on every level and is inconsistent and incoherent with what was written beforehand while not providing any answers to the important plot points and leaving plotholes left and right.

Did you read my previous posts on how they were mad about the movie because it destroyed the manga?

Edit: Forget it.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:40 PM

naah fake. the interviewer would never address to kishi like in that way.

Plus they wouldn't use words like "Narusaku" ... right ?


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:59 PM

I think i got a picture of how things go.

I don't. My brain works slow these 7 days. Mind to share what you've got?


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 01:59 PM

Guys, you all are asking questions that either have no answers or rather they have lackluster answers.

This is how I see the truth:
-SS happened because you had to get Sakura out of the way so NH can happen. That's it. That's why there is no real explanation for how and why they hooked up.
-Why is Bolt less popular than Salad? Because everyone hates NH so obviously the spawn will get it too. "Sins of the father. Sins of the son." (Also add, since Himawari is just not important enough, they forgot she was there.)
-This whole "Hinata was popular" is complete bull in itself and everyone knows it.

I really wish every Naruto fan would just hate this ending and I mean every single one. What happens when the entire fanbase would turn their back on the series? Would they change something? I don't know. I just can't even imagine people actually liking this ending truthfully. How can they like it at all? I can't stand it and everyday I get more and more telling me to "accept it."

Meanwhile people had a problem with the Mass Effect ending and nobody told them off saying to "respect the author."

I feel like I am a stranger in this world and I don't belong here.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:02 PM

Guys, have you seen this ? apparently another interview, but I don't know if it's legit :It looks like something an NH fan could write  
 
http://mr-shalashask...ill-not-sure-if

Knew it was 100% fake when it said "NH was original tsundere pairing"
These NH trolls are getting really pathetic

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:02 PM

Since people like reading comments on 2ch I translated comments no. 92-no. 106 that got updated this morning. I'll translate from no. 107 if I have time.
92 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 01:47:16.03 ID:08AVzqt7
ジャンプの主人公からメンヘラストーカーだけに都合のいい男、しかも見た目もカマくせえブス(映画の作画)にされてうんざり
I'm fed up with Naruto being the main character of Jump to a guy who's only benefitting a stalker. And his looks has been made ugly.
93 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 02:54:52.53 ID:VaJyGrHD
ナルトの相手、新キャラが無理なら既存キャラだとサラダがいい気がしてきた
大好きなサスケェと可愛いサクラの子どもならナルトの好みだらけの因子だろ
子どもの頃から洗脳して16歳になるまで待って嫁にしたらよかった
どっちも食べ物の名前でお似合いだよ
Naruto's love interest, if they can't have new characters I feel Salad is a good option
If it's a child of his beloved Sasuke and cute Sakura, then there are lots of factors for Naruto to like her
He should have mind controlled her and waited until she was sixteen and married her
They both have food names so they match
94 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 02:58:28.11 ID:goCUhogD
サラダが可哀相だからやめてやれ
ナルトにはヒナタがお似合いだと思うぞマジで
Please stop lol. I'll feel sorry for Salad.
Truly, Naruto matches Hinata
95 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 03:04:50.95 ID:wbNke8Ea
>>92
最終話読んでヒナタと夫婦になったらナルトは七班と疎遠になってそうだなーって冗談半分笑ってたんだが
マジで笑えねぇわ
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そこはよくある想い人の子どもを守ってやるかっこいい大人のポジションでいいだろ
冗談だと分かるが、映画のナルトさんが即堕ちクズメンタルだからってそれに倣うのはよせ
というかそれはサスケとサクラが殴るわ
>>92
I used to laugh after reading the last chapter that if Naruto marries Hinata is relationship with Team seven will fade.
I can't really laugh about it anymore
>>93
It would be better if he was in the cool adult position of protecting the child of his loved ones
I know you're just joking, but just because Naruto is a fallen scumbag mentality don't try to copy that......
If that happened Sasuke and Sakura would beat him
96 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 03:06:03.09 ID:VaJyGrHD
>>94
スマン、実は最後の一行が書きたかっただけw
あとそのくらいナルトの相手はほんと誰でもどうでもよい
>>94
Sorry I just wanted to write the last line
And that's how much I don't care about who Naruto ends up with
97 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 03:13:13.44 ID:W9+UbINe
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映画もアニオリ書いてる奴もむしろどんな育ち方したらあんな何のワクワク感もないつまらない脚本を書けるんだろうか
才能かな
>>81
What kind of upbringing did the one writing the anime original and the movie have to write such a boring and unexciting movie.
Is it talent?
98 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 05:01:30.48 ID:i5UUcvSZ
>>94
ヒナタ以外なら誰でもお似合いだろう
ヒナタとだと周囲が踏み台になり迷惑になる死神夫婦になるから駄目だ
>>94
Anyone other than Hinata would be a match
With Hinata they become a death god couple that steps on other characters and brings trouble
99 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 05:34:45.58 ID:bd3+4IgG
本日1月1日深夜24時35分、テレビ東京で「ROAD TO NINJA-NARUTO THE MOVIE-」TV初放送
ナルト・ミナト・クシナの親子の絆、キレるヒナタ、チャラいサスケなど見所満載。
連載完結、「THE LAST」を経た今だから新たな感動と発見が。テレビ東京HIRO
元日からNARUTO今日、夜時35分から、映画前作・ロード・トゥ・ニンジャ、放送です
ぶっちゃけナカノが一番好きな映画観てねあ、公開中のTHE LASTも勿論観てねナカノ
新たなる発見か、THE LASTは糞というのは前作を見直さずともわかるんだがな
RTNの限定月読の世界はナルトに全て都合が良いわけではないが
THE LASTは全てヒナタに都合が良過ぎてこっちの方が無限月読の世界じゃないかと思う
後、ナカノはガイの誕生日も祝っていたんだな
このスレでヒナタだけ祝って批判されたのを見ていたんだろうか
"Today on January 1st 24:35, Road to Ninja will be on air for the first time!
Lots of things to watch such as Naruto, Kushina, Minato's family bond, angry Hinata, playboy Sasuke.
After the completion and THE LAST, there will be new discoveries and feelings."
New discovery huh? I already figured out THE LAST was kitten without even watching RTN
RTN's limited Tsukuyomi was not all benefiting to Naruto
THE LAST was completely benefitting to Hinata that it makes me think that this is the Infinite Tsukuyomi
And Nakano was celebrating Gai's birthday
Did he see the people complaining after seeing him celebrate only Hinata's birthday?
100 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 07:43:40.00 ID:1Viutyu2
「親の愛を知らないナルトがラーメンに対する好きと変わらないサクラへの気持ちを恋と勘違いしてしまったのは無理もない」みたいな感想を見たんだけど、孤児の人をバカにしすぎじゃね
I saw the comment of "It's no surprise that Naruto who doesn't know the love of parents will mistake his feelings for Sakura who he likes as ramen to love" but isn't this making stupid of orphans?
101 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 07:55:51.75 ID:MCMx1tqL
イルカ先生ェ
Iruka senseiiiii
102 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 08:18:01.80 ID:afA4gg+t
lastがRTNよりつまらないと暗に言ってるな当然だけど
この糞映画のせいでRTNの評価がだだ上がりだ
He's saying that THE LAST is more boring than RTN indirectly
Because of this kitten movie RTN's praise is growing
103 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 08:25:49.61 ID:pD5dS1Br
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やっぱりアニスタこことか見てんのかね他でこの事が叩かれてるのかわからんけど
でも意地でもヒナタageだけは続けそう
Does the SP look at this thread? I don't know if this is bashed elsewhere
But I believe they'll continue trying to bring Hinata up no matter what
>>100
ラーメンと同等程度なのに、少年期に恋路の邪魔をされたりキス未遂もあった勝手に彼女扱いされたりするとか、やっぱりナルト気持ち悪いと思った
かつてサクラがナルトの事を邪魔者扱いしてたが、あれが本当にそうだったとわかった以上自分の中ではもうナルトは無理だと分かった
だから正直BORUTOでボルトとサラダがフラグ立ちそうなのが嫌だし読まない
どうせsageとかボルトやナルトageの道具にされそうだし、アニメじゃアニスタが嫌ってるサスケサクラの娘だし
なんかもう新年から色々と胸糞悪くなる
>>Regardless of being only the same level as ramen, to be disturbed of her love life(and the almost-kiss), being treated as a girlfriend, I thought Naruto was disgusting
Before Sakura used to think of Naruto as a bother, but now that I know it's true I can't stand Naruto anymore
That's why I honestly can't stand Boruto and Salad getting together and I won't read
They'll just bring her down to bring Naruto and Boruto up, and she's the daughter of Sakura and Sasuke the SP hates so much
From the New Years I feel disgusted
104 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 09:41:21.96 ID:uJRjtd2h
20億もやばそうだから、アンチに媚び始めたのかも
It seems like they cannot earn enough so they are catering to the antis
105 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 10:13:34.37 ID:1VhQrB2/
今更媚びても遅いけどな
自分の中のNARUTOはもう死んだ
Catering now is too late
NARUTO is already dead for me
106 見ろ名無しがゴミのようだ2015/01/02(金) 10:18:03.78 ID:6Z/elD/S
あんなヒナタ厨による二次同人の寒すぎる恋愛映画()を
公式です699.5話ですって恥ずかし気もなく発表した後じゃ何しても遅すぎる
似たような妄想してブヒってる奴らしか受け付けねーわw
もう後付けもageも好きなだけ続ければいいんじゃないかな
やればやるほど「俺らのヒナタ姫」は往年のナルトファンからどんどん嫌われて
ライトファンも首かしげながらフェイドアウトするだろうよ
After claiming that fanfiction love movie made from Hinatards as official! Chapter 699.5! without shame it's already too late for recovery
Only ones enjoying the same kind of daydreams would accept it lol
They can continue their ass-pulls and bringing up as much as theywant
The more they do the more "our princess Hinata" will be hated from long Naruto fans
Even the light fans will shake their heads and fade out

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Hi guys, anything new during the past 9 hours ?  :umm:
 
I've sent a message to a japanese fan on twitter ,asking her if it's okay to ask her a few things...(hope she'll see it )
 
edit: OMG, Ramen you're back !! welcome back and Happy new year !!  :th_yeah:

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:02 PM

Yeah the new team 7 with Sai had better dynamic than the former one ! it's totally obvious ! As I said before, at least Sai tried to become their friend and to understand them, what Sas-Uke never really bothered to do. I understand what bonds Naruto and Sasuke, but not Sakura and Sasuke. 

We've barely seen them sharing a positive moment, and most of them were in Fillers... 

Heck not even in fillers they had interaction SP made them Sakura brushing of Naruto and always fangrling and trying to get to Sasuke while Sasuke was as always indifferent  really they only had some P1 fillers  minimal I'd say  either way its kitten . 

 

Guys, you all are asking question that either have no answers or rather they have lackluster answers.

This is how I see the truth:
-SS happened because you had to get Sakura out of the way so NH can happen. That's it. That's why there is no real explanation for how and why they hooked up.
-Why is Bolt less popular than Salad? Becuase everyone hates NH so obviously the spawn will get it to. "Sin of the father. Sins of the son."
-This whole "Hinata was popular" is complete bull in itself and everyone knows it.

I really wish every Naruto fan would just hate this ending and I mean every single one. What happens when the entire fanbase would turn their back on the series? Would they change something? I don't know. I just can't even imagine people actually liking this ending truthfully. How can they like it at all? I can't stand it and everyday I get more and more telling me to "accept it."

Meanwhile people had a problem with the Mass Effect ending and nobody told them off saying to "respect the author."

I feel like I am stranger in this world and I don't belong here.

THIS !!!  :zaru: .


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:04 PM

I don't. My brain works slow these 7 days. Mind to share what you've got?

I don't want to share this,very very inflammable topic.Very Sad too.

 

Sorry,i'm deleting that post.Pls forget that


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:04 PM

@James S Cassidy

That sums everything after Ramen dramatically shows today? Thanks! Please accept my first like.  :happy:

 

@Ramenanmitsu

If I'm not mistaken, didn't you say you wanted to translate a blog where SP said that Neji touches Hinata boobs? Or something like that. Have you finished?


Edited by xpopurix, 02 January 2015 - 02:10 PM.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:06 PM

Guys, you all are asking question that either have no answers or rather they have lackluster answers.

This is how I see the truth:
-SS happened because you had to get Sakura out of the way so NH can happen. That's it. That's why there is no real explanation for how and why they hooked up.
-Why is Bolt less popular than Salad? Becuase everyone hates NH so obviously the spawn will get it to. "Sin of the father. Sins of the son."
-This whole "Hinata was popular" is complete bull in itself and everyone knows it.

I really wish every Naruto fan would just hate this ending and I mean every single one. What happens when the entire fanbase would turn their back on the series? Would they change something? I don't know. I just can't even imagine people actually liking this ending truthfully. How can they like it at all? I can't stand it and everyday I get more and more telling me to "accept it."

Meanwhile people had a problem with the Mass Effect ending and nobody told them off saying to "respect the author."

I feel like I am stranger in this world and I don't belong here.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

I don't want to share this,very very inflammable topic.Very Sad too.

 

Sorry,i'm deleting that post.Pls forget that

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:11 PM

@ramen, I was wondering if you could provide insight on Japanese response to Sakura specifically? Is there any thought on her on her own? I feel like this whole "victim"/sympathy towards her thing is them talking about NH and only viewing her after the fact.

Personally, I don't think that she was any less atrocious in the end than Naruto was in the last. I think it's unfair to criticize Naruto for how he was portrayed, and then not say anything about how Sakura pretended he didn't even exist to her in the last two chapters. I know we all say that she regressed to part one (to which I agreed with), but I've been giving it some thought lately, and maybe I've been saying that because I loved Sakura so much. But if I'm completely honest, she didn't even make it to her part one character, she went all the way back to pre-academy status. At least her part one character acknowledged Narutos existence, the atrocity that appeared after the last fight disregarded his existence completely because Sasuke was there.

I'm not defending that piece of trash that made a cameo as Naruto on the last either, nor am I trying to inspire a debate as I'm at work, I just want to know if there are any opinions similar to what I've just stated.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:12 PM

Guys, you all are asking question that either have no answers or rather they have lackluster answers.

This is how I see the truth:
-SS happened because you had to get Sakura out of the way so NH can happen. That's it. That's why there is no real explanation for how and why they hooked up.
-Why is Bolt less popular than Salad? Becuase everyone hates NH so obviously the spawn will get it to. "Sin of the father. Sins of the son."
-This whole "Hinata was popular" is complete bull in itself and everyone knows it.

I really wish every Naruto fan would just hate this ending and I mean every single one. What happens when the entire fanbase would turn their back on the series? Would they change something? I don't know. I just can't even imagine people actually liking this ending truthfully. How can they like it at all? I can't stand it and everyday I get more and more telling me to "accept it."

Meanwhile people had a problem with the Mass Effect ending and nobody told them off saying to "respect the author."

I feel like I am stranger in this world and I don't belong here.

 

It is a bizarre situation, to be sure. It's like Up suddenly became Down, Left became Right, and your best friend for a number of years just told you to go kitten yourself out of the blue for no reason.

 

I see truth too in...your truth. I could have phrased that better lol

 

I do wonder too what it would be like if the fanbase presented a united front against Kishimoto and his merry band of money-grabbing cronies.


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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:16 PM

@ramen, I was wondering if you could provide insight on Japanese response to Sakura specifically? Is there any thought on her on her own? I feel like this whole "victim"/sympathy towards her thing is them talking about NH and only viewing her after the fact.
Personally, I don't think that she was any less atrocious in the end than Naruto was in the last. I think it's unfair to criticize Naruto for how he was portrayed, and then not say anything about how Sakura pretended he didn't even exist to her in the last two chapters. I know we all say that she regressed to part one (to which I agreed with), but I've been giving it some thought lately, and maybe I've been saying that because I loved Sakura so much. But if I'm completely honest, she didn't even make it to her part one character, she went all the way back to pre-academy status. At least her part one character acknowledged Narutos existence, the atrocity that appeared after the last fight disregarded his existence completely because Sasuke was there.
I'm not defending that piece of trash that made a cameo as Naruto on the last either, nor am I trying to inspire a debate as I'm at work, I just want to know if there are any opinions similar to what I've just stated.
Happy new year btw Ramen, welcome back!

A long time ago I saw one post after the LAST came out that made a comment about Sakura's growth being in reset after chapter 699. That's the only post I can recall, sorry. And I think I posted that here.

And as you said the huge victimizing of Sakura started AFTER the LAST. People were sympathetic towards Naruto regarding Sakura, but all that sympathy turned into hate after the movie. The more sympathetic they were the more they felt betrayed by Naruto. People who hated on Sakura for how she treated Naruto (especially the NH fans) now victimizes her and hates on Naruto, because now they think she was a poor victim who got harassed by a man who never loved her and being called a liar despite said man being a bigger liar. They think they were "mislead" to hate her when the real one that deserves hate was Naruto all along. So your assumptions are right.

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Posted 02 January 2015 - 02:20 PM

I actually dislike NH much much much more than SS. I'm kinda neutral about it. My main problem is how poisonous they are for each other, and how badly Kishi developed their 'relationship'.
 
*looks around, bites lip and waits for the start of the outrage*  :unsure:
 
But yeah, i understand perfectly why Japanese fans feel so. I too am angry about how they treated team 7, like it or not, Sasuke and Sakura were the two other most important characters and they've been put together not for any logical reason but to have Puttanata have her wish. But they've been 'put in the back' because they were too important and would tarnish the poor Boob's shining moment.
I'm pretty angry at the treatment they had. I firmly believe they were put together in order to be out of the Boob's way, so I can't really hate them for that. But it's also true that the only character I hate is Hinata so...  :wot:

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