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[六道仙人]

guys, just deal with SS. It's the "ultimate form of the love". POKING THE FOREHEAD.

 

If I do this to any girl here where I live, I am sure I would be immediately taken to a psychiatric hospital. Maybe...LOL

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 January 2015 - 11:52 AM.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Hinata is nowhere near as popular as Sasuke and she is hated a lot more though. That description of Hinata being popular applies only to the West.

Naruto surely is a victim, but ppl don't see it that way when he has a lot of screen time over other fan favorites.

I agree with the Sasuke part. I HATE the ending to Sasuke's character. That was it? In five chapters, he suddenly declares war, tries a massacre then realizes he cares for team seven and go on a trip to atone his sins with a single, "Yeah, sorry." What happened to the Sasuke who wouldn't give up on his dream? What happened to the efficient cold-hearted Sasuke who wouldn't care about honor as long as he gained what we wanted? I almost expected him to sharingan and copy Orochimaru's Kuchiyose, summon Kushina, Jiraiya, and Neji, weaken Naruto and go for the kill. Instead Sasuke turned out to be a huge disappointment who would go back on his words in less than an hour and not even put the effort he could. Gaara and Orochimaru were way better antagonists than Sasuke could ever be.

Geez, I became a team seven hater after the movie.
  I've got to see this! Where can I see this?

  True. Junko definitely isn't. Even if the lady comes back, too much damage has done. It's irredeemable.

 

As to be expected, Sasuke was so post to be redeemed because he's a MC too. But logic went out the door. The only thing I can think about how Sasuke has been punished is him to be paired up with Sakura and not being in love with her because of personal reasons. Naruto acted as a scumbag because of the "separation scene" if I'm correct and Sasuke maybe be force theoretically  by his own will to feel pity for Sakura and makes it his obligation to take care of her because  she may have been heart broken over Naruto (perhaps off screen) and he's forever sacrifice his romantic life with Karin to take care of Sakura because of Naruto lol. What a harsh punishment this would be if this is true.

 

Someone already posted the link for you. And I won't let the movie and the last diminished my support of Team 7 because they sold out to the west. That's just me. NS and SK are canon because NH and SS will be converted into NS 2.0s in the fillers and novels.

 

No Junko is just Naruto's VA. I meant the screen writer that does all the NS fillers and the RTN movie.

[rocci]

guys, just deal with SS. It's the "ultimate form of the love". POKING THE FOREHEAD.
 
If I do this to any girl here where I live, I am sure I would be immediately taken to a psychiatric hospital. Maybe...LOL

You need to be absurdly popular among girls and your rival must secretly love you. It will be better if your rival has blond hair and blue eye.
If you are not, then you need to go to hospital.

[EmperorZeo]

@ramenanmitsu

 

So, how big would you say the NS community is in Japan, in comparison to the other hetero ships? Are they still very active?

 

Also, do you think there is a way for both the Japanese and western fanbases to get into regular contact with one another? I think both sides working together could help each other out. Especially when it comes to burying SP and Kishi in our dissatisfaction.

[Atheck]

 

@ Atheck, I couldn't ask all the questions you wanted, because of mine and the girl's poor english . 

I asked her about Junko => Probably Junko will do the voice of the naruto by a bolt movie.She may not like endings.(I feel so me to be, too)However, she will do a naruto because she is a voice actor of the naruto.

About SasuSaku => Some fans understand サスサク. However,there are many people who do not understand it. However,there are more people understanding it than ナルヒナ.

About the new characters => A new character has many favorite people. I have not heard a bolt and the romance of the salad. Probably there is not it.

About Karin =>I am dissatisfied with handling of karin. However, there are many people who do not mind it.Because ナルヒナ and サスサク attract attention, there is a person forgetting karin.

 

Delete this direct messageHowever, she will do a naruto because she is a voice actor of the naruto.

 

 

So Hinata spawn together with the Sasuke spawn is not perceived as a neo-NS, correct? It's difficult to understand what it is they were saying there. But while the female spawn is garnering some appreciation, the male Hinata spawn is being derided for the sins of his bearers, according to Ramen's account of 2chan.

 

Junko clearly has her grievances with the ending. She's even gone out of her way to silence Kishi when he was fumbling around, trying to seal the potholes in what's left of his career by appealing to the people that were hurt by irrational favouritism towards Hinata and betrayal of Sakura. Her thoughts on the matter of Naruto's sudden attraction and marriage to Hinata have already been expressed. More than that, has this person seen Junko in some of her promotional photos? She looks visually disturbed, heavy-hearted even by what Kishi has done to Naruto's character and shattering her expected hopes for him.

 

Does this woman believe that if Junko chooses to remain on set, that she won't be expected to ever converse with Hinata? The two are married! It's expected that they will communicate with each other in an impersonal and romantic manner. And considering her disappointed state of mind after just one film riddled with NH, Junko would have to be an emotional masochist to continue enduring the perpetuation of a relationship she's gone on record for believing was never existent until The Last contrived reciprocal feelings for Naruto out of nothing.

 

Of course no one cares about Karin. She's only been there for Sasuke throughout his entire vengeance ordeal. Putting herself in jeopardy for his sake, being branded an international criminal, supporting him throughout all of his ordeals despite the anguish he caused her... In the end, her genuine wish is to see Sasuke offer that kind and compassionate smile again that he once gave to her when they first met. Yet Kishi doesn't even have the decency to have Sasuke respectfully decline her affections while expressing his gratitude for her, Suigetsu, and Juugo fighting and suffering alongside him all this time.

 

When you think about it, Naruto isn't the only scumbag. I just wish the Japanese fandom could see how much deterioration of the old bonds is taking place to accomodate that inexplicable travesty known as SS.

[Lady Lys]

lol I meant only that SS is the bigger fandom in japan so NH was inevitable. That's all. Just a popularity question. And that's sad.

 

 

Sauce is my new hero. A slow and patient mating tactic lasted years has finally his result: banging Sakura-chan and making with her a loveable restoration of a beautiful family with a lot of sweety and gifted (of sharingans ) childs. my total respect for him. Surely it had more efficiency than that Naruto's towards Sakura.

 

 

 

I have always told that the real winner in this story is her. Because she, as a ruined character, did ruin the story. He concluded her job which was "Ruining the manga with only my presence". /DONE.

Another point to Kishi's logic! SS had the bigger fan base but he treated it as if they didn't exist, Sauce became Sanchez Ventilador, the wanderer, who appeared for 30 seconds, and Sakura, the 'cupid' *pukes*. Logic? What logic?!

 

That mating technique worked tough.   .... Nah, it worked only because otherwise the Puttanata wouldn't get to have Nardo-kon's 'big and strong' D. (Oh goody I just weirded myself out  ).

 

She did a marvelous job at 'ruining the manga with only her presence'. I'm hoping to have fun and see her bashed more and more.

 

ah the famous poke on the forehead!   it's better than a love potion! It scrambles your neurons and makes you susceptible to falling in love on the spot. Guaranteed by the Uchiha family! Oh no, even better! It's probably what Fugaku used to make Mikoto fall in love with him! PEEPS I'VE FOUND ANOTHER PARALOL PARALLEL!

[六道仙人]

this manga is so full of paralols and parallels. But the author used the firsts to make canon the couples and the second to deceive the readers about a logical bro/sis couple.

 

I don't want live in this world Unless I lose the logic in my brain which it could be much possible at this rate of my life thanks to the lessons Hiretsu-sensei taught me.

Edited by 六道仙人, 02 January 2015 - 12:07 PM.

[Awes9]

Ramen please explain to me how does Narusasu and SS are the same thing, as much as I hate Narusasu at least it's fleshed out during the whole manga with tons of flashbacks and Naruto can stand up to Sasuke. SS on the contrary is never fleshed out beyond Sakura's shallow feelings, even Sakura's flashback is of her fangirling about Sasuke while Sasuke is completely apathetic, there's nothing from Sasuke's side during the whole part 2 while for Narusasu you can see how much Naruto affects him. Sasuke treats Sakura like horsehit and Sakura doesn’t even stand up to him even one time but that’s okay because the 2 are main characters wow. As for the "coolest guy" comment are you telling me people over there accepts it ? But I shouldn't be surprised after all a kitten character like Sasuke is the most popular over there. I may dislike NH but it doesn’t compare to how disgusting SS is, if that’s the japanese's fandom view then I don't want anything to do with them, that an abusive relationship based on shallow feelings is deemed ok completely conflicts with my values (and any sane person's values for that matter).

It seems to me that most of these people are kittening about why their personal's favorite didn’t get more screentime instead of why the story failed on every level and is inconsistent and incoherent with what was written beforehand while not providing any answers to the important plot points and leaving plotholes left and right.
At the end the japanese fandom is not really different from the western fandom, as long as they get what they want the rest doesn’t matter, no wonder a kitten writer like Kishi could make tons of money and I'm sure he will be able to still make money with a fanbase like that all he has to do is to provide fanservice and they will gladly buy it, the story the themes don't matter as long as we can get more Sasuke kun. It's really time to move on not only from this manga but also from its toxic fanbase.

[ichigo500]

 
So Hinata spawn together with the Sasuke spawn is not perceived as a neo-NS, correct? It's difficult to understand what it is they were saying there. But while the female spawn is garnering some appreciation, the male Hinata spawn is being derided for the sins of his bearers, according to Ramen's account of 2chan.
 
Junko clearly has her grievances with the ending. She's even gone out of her way to silence Kishi when he was fumbling around, trying to seal the potholes in what's left of his career by appealing to the people that were hurt by irrational favouritism towards Hinata and betrayal of Sakura. Her thoughts on the matter of Naruto's sudden attraction and marriage to Hinata have already been expressed. More than that, has this person seen Junko in some of her promotional photos? She looks visually disturbed, heavy-hearted even by what Kishi has done to Naruto's character and shattering her expected hopes for him.
 
Does this woman believe that if Junko chooses to remain on set, that she won't be expected to ever converse with Hinata? The two are married! It's expected that they will communicate with each other in an impersonal and romantic manner. And considering her disappointed state of mind after just one film riddled with NH, Junko would have to be an emotional masochist to continue enduring the perpetuation of a relationship she's gone on record for believing was never existent until The Last contrived reciprocal feelings for Naruto out of nothing.
 
Of course no one cares about Karin. She's only been there for Sasuke throughout his entire vengeance ordeal. Putting herself in jeopardy for his sake, being branded an international criminal, supporting him throughout all of his ordeals despite the anguish he caused her... In the end, her genuine wish is to see Sasuke offer that kind and compassionate smile again that he once gave to her when they first met. Yet Kishi doesn't even have the decency to have Sasuke respectfully decline her affections while expressing his gratitude for her, Suigetsu, and Juugo fighting and suffering alongside him all this time.
 
When you think about it, Naruto isn't the only scumbag. I just wish the Japanese fandom could see how much deterioration of the old bonds is taking place to accomodate that inexplicable travesty known as SS.

Imo, Junko will continue to do her work properly even if she doesn't like what happened to Naruto, because it is her job and she's being professional ! Idk if she's going to renew her contract with SP, but she already did the big NH part we'll ever see in the manga ! I just hope she won't voice Boruto if she has the choice !

[FireFox]

Another point to Kishi's logic! SS had the bigger fan base but he treated it as if they didn't exist, Sauce became Sanchez Ventilador, the wanderer, who appeared for 30 seconds, and Sakura, the 'cupid' *pukes*. Logic? What logic?!

 

That mating technique worked tough.   .... Nah, it worked only because otherwise the Puttanata wouldn't get to have Nardo-kon's 'big and strong' D. (Oh goody I just weirded myself out  ).

 

She did a marvelous job at 'ruining the manga with only her presence'. I'm hoping to have fun and see her bashed more and more.

 

ah the famous poke on the forehead!   it's better than a love potion! It scrambles your neurons and makes you susceptible to falling in love on the spot. Guaranteed by the Uchiha family! Oh no, even better! It's probably what Fugaku used to make Mikoto fall in love with him! PEEPS I'VE FOUND ANOTHER PARALOL PARALLEL!

 

Hey I just Forehead Poke You and this is crazy

 

But I Chidoried You  So Love me Baby    

 

Uchiha's are also poets you know   .

[narusaku256]

 
Hey I just Forehead Poke You and this is crazy
 
But I Chidoried You  So Love me Baby    
 
Uchiha's are also poets you know   .

Wait until their love fails. They go kitten crazy and up on destroying the world! Why? Because someone betrayed their love.

[Lady Lys]

 

Hey I just Forehead Poke You and this is crazy

 

But I Chidoried You  So Love me Baby    

 

Uchiha's are also poets you know   .

 

WOW.  

[Awes9]

Hum...I didn't understand a thing,Pairings aside, did they think that chapter 700 was horrible or not ? 
And what about the Sakura's character assassination in 699 ? Are they okay with it because it's SS or...?

Japanese fans are perfectly ok with Sakura's character assassination in chapter 699 because both Sakura and Sasuke are main characters (amazing reasoning), nothing shocking that Sakura goes back like a dog to a man who treated her like utter kitten for a majority of the manga, who tried to kill her in the most brutal way 3 times, degraded her insulted her.

Edited by Awes9, 02 January 2015 - 12:47 PM.

[Atheck]

Imo, Junko will continue to do her work properly even if she doesn't like what happened to Naruto, because it is her job and she's being professional ! Idk if she's going to renew her contract with SP, but she already did the big NH part we'll ever see in the manga ! I just hope she won't voice Boruto if she has the choice !

 

It's her job for however long her contract has her binded to the series. My suspicion is that it's set to be completed once Shippuden ends.

 

The spin-off is an entity detached from Naruto or Part 2. She would have to sign another document before voicing any characters in it. And the "professionalism" argument really doesn't apply, considering that she's already put herself out there by retracting her original promise to voice Naruto's spawn and by telling the mangaka himself to remain silent at a major event.

 

Junko's career is under no threat. Even if she were to leave the role tomorrow, the fact that she was the seiyuu for the titular character would probably guarantee her to a certain percentage of all profits. Money should be no concern either.

Edited by Atheck, 02 January 2015 - 12:39 PM.

[Advaith]

guys, just deal with SS. It's the "ultimate form of the love". POKING THE FOREHEAD.

 

If I do this to any girl here where I live, I am sure I would be immediately taken to a psychiatric hospital. Maybe...LOL

POKING THE FOREHEAD ugh

 

This is kitten,this author is kitten,stop making kitten.

[FireFox]

Wait until their love fails. They go batsh*t crazy and up on destroying the world! Why? Because someone betrayed their love.

They are just full of love aren't they    .

 

Someone please remind me  why are they even allowed to exist anymore or produce more nutcases   .  They even went full retard kitten crazy and start this whole mess of a war bc BZ told them that a tablet is the solution to peace they have to kill Senju take their DNA collect the Bijuu's  what a bunch of morons    .

[FireFox]

Till this day I will never understand what do people see in original T7 with Sasuke in it  when they had zero dynamic as a team for 700 chapters  and hardly any bonding as friends their interactions were all a mess especially in SS case    . When have we   seen them smiling or having a healthy interaction ? It was all forced BS with no substance totally messed up concept  so in then end to be feed with this image of they are finally back  .  Do people only see flashy things and that they are only powerful  ?  But aside from that what else is there really ?  Individually liking the members yes I can understand but the concept of all of them as a team  ugh!       No thank You !!!  .   

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 02 January 2015 - 01:01 PM.

[ichigo500]

Japanese fans are perfectly ok with Sakura's character assassination in chapter 699 because both Sakura and Sasuke are main characters (amazing reasoning), nothing shocking that Sakura goes back like a dog to a man who treated her like utter kitten for a majority of the manga, who tried to kill her in the most brutal way 3 times, degraded her insulted her.

I guess that the ones who really care about the manga are the ones who saw that chapter 699 and 700 were just terrible. and they were because they had to make some kind of stupid prlogue to the new series and movie. And I don't really understand how can't people see that. 

I'm really beginning to think that Shonen manga become more and more about how much money you make and how many fanservice you can give (of course, not all of them... but I think it's really going to be more like this from now on ... ) 

I think I'll really start to look after Seinen mangas more than Shonen. 

[ichigo500]

Till this day I will never understand what do people see in original T7 with Sasuke in it  when they had zero dynamic as a team for 700 chapters  and hardly any bonding as friends their interactions were all a mess especially in SS case    . When have we   seen them smiling or having a healthy interaction ? It was all forced BS with no substance totally messed up concept  so in then end to be feed with this image of they are finally back  .  Do people only see flashy things and that they are only powerful  ?  But aside from that what else is there really ?  Individually liking the members yes I can understand but the concept of all of them as a team  ugh!       No thank You !!!  .   

Yeah the new team 7 with Sai had better dynamic than the former one ! it's totally obvious ! As I said before, at least Sai tried to become their friend and to understand them, what Sas-Uke never really bothered to do. I understand what bonds Naruto and Sasuke, but not Sakura and Sasuke. 

We've barely seen them sharing a positive moment, and most of them were in Fillers... 

[Awes9]

Till this day I will never understand what do people see in original T7 with Sasuke in it  when they had zero dynamic as a team for 700 chapters  and hardly any bonding as friends their interactions were all a mess especially in SS case    . When have we   seen them smiling or having a healthy interaction ? It was all forced BS with no substance totally messed up concept  so in then end to be feed with this image of they are finally back  .  Do people only see flashy things and that they are only powerful  ?  But aside from that what else is there really ?  Individually liking the members yes I can understand but the concept of all of them as a team  ugh!       No thank You !!!  .   

I don't get it either, I liked them in part 1 because even tough at the beginning they were disconnected they were slowly learning to understand each other but then in part 2 it has been turned into this so called unbreakable bond when it had nothing to stand on, I was already raising eyebrows when at the end of part 1 Sasuke told Naruto he was his best friend and all the extra bias (sorry but as soon as Sasuke tried to pierce Narutos heart this nonsense should have stopped) but in part 2 it has been turned into a monstruosity Narutos and especially Sakura's feelings don't make any kind of sense and their devotion towards a man who has done nothing to deserve it is mindblowing. The worst part tough is not that Kishi can get away with this garbage it's that many people find it endearing.

Edited by Awes9, 02 January 2015 - 01:12 PM.