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[bthug]

That's good to hear, so when do u think we will actually get another Narusaku moment, before ppl including me thought 545 would be the faithful chapter but it wasnt soooo any predictions?

[Anguyen92]

Somewhere between 546-550, I hope so because its been like over 70 some chapters without a moment, hell for the other shippers, in their mind, its been like 100 chapters, that something happens that might tip their scale, unless that sasusaku shippers think that 540 thing was something.

Speaking of sasusaku shippers, I always thought that Sasuke always buried Sakura in part 1 and never saw her as a contendah or someone that could make an impact, and it was always Naruto that she could always rely on to find her strength and courage to be where she is, which, in turn, helps Naruto further his strength and abilities (which are already great as it is). If sasusaku, (I know it would never happen at this point), actually with a less than one-hundredth of a percent (0.01%) happens, that would really kill Sakura's development. Thoughts or we could we switch to another subject?

Edited by anguyen92, 03 July 2011 - 01:07 AM.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Ya around 546-555 is when theres going to be one they cant leave us hanging here its driving me crazy.

[ciardha]

I think for the real definition of a tusndere you would have to look at the "first" and most potent tusndere around which IMO would be Asuka, Asuka Langley Soryu

Not by a long shot- Akane Tendo was the probably the first fully developed tsundere type- directly preceded by Kaori of City Hunter- both known for their comedic dimensional hammers- especially Kaori. Kaori only misses being a full tsundere by the fact she develops romantic feelings for Ryo very quickly after the story starts- doesn't stop her from bringing out the handy dimensional hammer when Ryo gets pervy with other women who don't welcome that kind of attention- and Ryo is very much a "horndog" around any attractive female- except with Kaori (who at first [except for the first time he sees her- before he knows who she is] views as a sort of younger sister. He does that because she is the adoptive younger sister of his business partner who was murdered. His partner told him to take care of sister if anything ever happened to him. Over time Ryo begins love Kaori the same way she loves him, then you have a status of UST- unrelieved sexual tension until around the last volume of the manga (which to my frustration I was not able to find in print when I was buying the series in the original Japanese- and only a small part of the manga was released in English translation- and my comic book store always was sold out when I got there...

btw out of curiosity how many girls are here? I am a guy and lately I feel like I'm the only one

I know one of our mods said a couple of years ago that of the people who identified their gender on their profiles, well over half were male. There's been a small influx of women since then, but I'm fairly certain that over half are still male. I'm a woman, by the way, and one of the older members (I'll be 45 in September)- although I know at least one other person on this forum is older than me...

[Super Boom]

LOL, I'm not going to give my gender, you're all gonna have to work if you wanna find it. And by work, I mean click on my name and see if my icon is blue or pink. Quite a task, I know.

Somewhere between 546-550, I hope so because its been like over 70 some chapters without a moment, hell for the other shippers, in their mind, its been like 100 chapters, that something happens that might tip their scale, unless that sasusaku shippers think that 540 thing was something.

Their next interaction will be most likely be in the next five chapters at the very most. I'm guessing he'll see all of the Konoha 11, so I'd expect a scene with Hinata that'll probably be blown insanely out of proportion. Fortunately, Sakura's alone with Shizune right now, so I'm guessing his conversation with her will seem more important than the rest. But we'll see, I'm not going to get my hopes up. I'm guessing the deciding moment will be right before he goes to fight Sasuke. He's half-expecting to die in the fight, so he might make a selfish (in his mind) decision and steal a kiss from Sakura or something. But we'll see.

Speaking of sasusaku shippers, I always thought that Sasuke always buried Sakura in part 1 and never saw her as a contendah or someone that could make an impact, and it was always Naruto that she could always rely on to find her strength and courage to be where she is, which, in turn, helps Naruto further his strength and abilities (which are already great as it is). If sasusaku, (I know it would never happen at this point), actually with a less than one-hundredth of a percent (0.01%) happens, that would really kill Sakura's development. Thoughts or we could we switch to another subject?

I'd agree with that. In my mind, Sakura's relationship with Sasuke has been nothing but negative, while her relationship with Naruto has been the exact opposite. Sure her feelings for Sasuke became less selfish during the Chuunin Exams, and she demonstrated some resolve in protecting/saving Sasuke in the past, but my biggest beef with Sakura was during her confession to him. She was willing to betray Konoha for a crush. I know she was desperate, but that scene was where I held the lowest esteem of her. It also might explain why I used to ship NH, as I've mentioned once or twice here.
Fortunately, she had nowhere to go but up after that scene, at least in my opinion. At the POAL, she seems to realize how important Naruto was to her, and how he understands her more than anyone else. In the first two Part II arcs, we see her demonstrate amazing skill and resolve in protecting Naruto, and we see her empathize with him several times. She clearly changed over the timeskip, and I believe Naruto was a huge influence on her, despite the fact that he wasn't even physically there.
So to me, if SasuSaku happened, I wouldn't be able to help but see her as reverting back to that desperate girl willing to give up everything for her crush. It'd be a huge blow to any development given to her as a character. Meanwhile we have Naruto, who truly understands her. So much in fact, he's willing to give up his own happiness for what believes is her happiness. And, as we've seen several times, Sakura seems to draw strength from Naruto's own resolve.
So in summary, I see SasuSaku as a huge setback for her character development, while I see NaruSaku as a sort of goal that will finally develop Sakura into the main heroine Kishi is trying to create for this series.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 03 July 2011 - 02:27 AM.

[Phantom_999]

HaHa if you wanted to hide it you should not have put it on Yeah I'd like the next NS moment to be in 5-10 chapters

[Super Boom]

HaHa if you wanted to hide it you should not have put it on

It was a joke. I was just pointing out that it's sort of redundant to reveal your gender on the thread if people can easily just click on your profile. Or that it's sort of senseless to hide your gender on your profile if you're not shy about declaring it on the main debate thread here. I guess my sarcasm didn't come out the way I intended.

[bthug]

wow i never knew u were a previous nh shipper, even though u mentioned it before I just never saw it i guess, I applaud u for being open minded and switching to the right one

[NarutoThePromiseKeeper]

Hmm, I get the feeling that a NaruSaku moment probably will happen between(as others have said) 546-555, I find that a reasonable good amount for something to happen. Personally I think Naruto should have a pretty epic entrance when he appears to help the others fight. I can't wait to see the look on Sakura's face, heck everyone's faces when Naruto comes charging in on the battlefield. But what I'm really hoping for is a NaruSaku moment, ANYTHING no matter how small or whatever, the waiting is driving me crazy! But I do have a very good feeling that we will be seeing one soon. Whether it'll be a kiss, or a simple show of affections or a talk around the romantic area I'm not entirely sure of. As long as its something then I'll be happy! xD

Edited by NarutoThePromiseKeeper, 03 July 2011 - 09:00 AM.

[Phantom_999]

YUP like I said It's my emotional coffee can't go without one for too long I get crabby

[Nina]

YUP like I said It's my emotional coffee can't go without one for too long I get crabby

Me too. I'm getting really uneasy. I had to start reading lame shojo manga just to get my romantic fix...

[bthug]

How would u guys feel if tenten was also in the running.
Honestly I think tenten is hotter so it was before all this connection primarily in the beginning of Naruto i might have shipped NaruTen

[Fyuria'sLeo]

How would u guys feel if tenten was also in the running.
Honestly I think tenten is hotter so it was before all this connection primarily in the beginning of Naruto i might have shipped NaruTen

My fav crack pairing love NaruTen but NARUSAKU will always be on the top.

[Super Boom]

I prefer NaruIno as far as crack pairings go. Ino's got looks and an awesome outgoing personality, and I think she'd complement Naruto pretty well. But NaruHarem's definitely my favorite, though I'm not sure it really counts as a pairing.

wow i never knew u were a previous nh shipper, even though u mentioned it before I just never saw it i guess, I applaud u for being open minded and switching to the right one

Sorry, I might not have said it on this thread. I just don't like to feel like I'm being redundant saying the same thing when I post here.

I think quite a few people here used to ship SS or NH. For me, it was just seeing the story from a simplistic "mean vain girl vs. nice girl who's always loved you" perspective. Plus, like I said, her confession just bugged me. And that comment, "I have family and friends, but if you were to leave, I'd feel truly alone" just felt like a slap in the face to Naruto, who I felt really wanted to get close to her throughout Part I.
But I guess I sort of felt like the series was moving in a different direction in Part II, both in terms of Sakura's overall personality and how she acted towards Naruto. And, of course, the NaruHina pairing went absolutely nowhere for me. So I guess I just jumped ship, and then reread/rewatched some old scenes, and realized any annoyance I had with Sakura in Part I pretty much stemmed from her being the "realistic girl" Kishi was trying to create. Plus, I feel NaruSaku just makes the most sense in terms of the overall story, which I personally care about more than shipping to begin with.

Personally though, I think if shipping fans, on all sides, would just take off their "shipping goggles", reread/rewatch old scenes, and read the character relationships for what they are, I think we'd have a lot less rabid fans and character bashing in the Naruto fandom.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I've sorta just thought Naruto and Sakura were best for eachother since the forest of death, so ive always like NaruSaku.

[lelouch the lord]

do you guys think you can describe, in your own opinions, why hinata doesn't "deserve" to be with naruto. I use that term loosely because that's a questionable phrase to use for romance.

[CloudMountainJuror]

do you guys think you can describe, in your own opinions, why hinata doesn't "deserve" to be with naruto. I use that term loosely because that's a questionable phrase to use for romance.

It's not that she doesn't deserve it; it's that there's hardly any development for NaruHina as compared to NaruSaku.

[Anguyen92]

I think quite a few people here used to ship SS or NH. For me, it was just seeing the story from a simplistic "mean vain girl vs. nice girl who's always loved you" perspective. Plus, like I said, her confession just bugged me. And that comment, "I have family and friends, but if you were to leave, I'd feel truly alone" just felt like a slap in the face to Naruto, who I felt really wanted to get close to her throughout Part I.
But I guess I sort of felt like the series was moving in a different direction in Part II, both in terms of Sakura's overall personality and how she acted towards Naruto. And, of course, the NaruHina pairing went absolutely nowhere for me. So I guess I just jumped ship, and then reread/rewatched some old scenes, and realized any annoyance I had with Sakura in Part I pretty much stemmed from her being the "realistic girl" Kishi was trying to create. Plus, I feel NaruSaku just makes the most sense in terms of the overall story, which I personally care about more than shipping to begin with.

Personally though, I think if shipping fans, on all sides, would just take off their "shipping goggles", reread/rewatch old scenes, and read the character relationships for what they are, I think we'd have a lot less rabid fans and character bashing in the Naruto fandom.

1. Also, i felt the same way, but I've always wanted narusaku in the beginning, probably due to Naruto liking her in the first place, for the other pairings, part of me thought it might happen if certain things and development happens, the pairing have a better chance of happening, but it didn't, so at this point, its narusaku or nothing.

2. Yeah, well that's what kinda turns me off on the Sakura character at first, that bi*chiness fangirl aspect, which was kinda sad, because when I've first saw the commerical for the show 7 years ago, I thought she was cute and hot at first. Thankfully, Shippuden came and she become all of that plus all ass-kicking and tsundere aspect coming on full circle.

do you guys think you can describe, in your own opinions, why hinata doesn't "deserve" to be with naruto. I use that term loosely because that's a questionable phrase to use for romance.

You know if certain things would have happen in a coherent canon matter, then maybe she should deserve to be with him, but that's not the point. So to accuratly answer your question, it's because she's too nice, she does not have that keep-in-line aspect, that Sakura possess, with Naruto, when he either A. screws up, or B. becomes pervey.

Edited by anguyen92, 03 July 2011 - 09:40 PM.

[TerrorKing]

I've never hated Sakura. Not once! The only time I've ever really disliked her was when I first started watching the anime (dubbed in danish) back in 2005/2006 and even then It was only like "When is she going to actually do something?". Keep in mind though that I only watched it from time to time so I never got to see her fight against Team Dosu in the forest of death or her fight with Ino. So basically I only ever saw her when she was at her worst.

Then in 2008, when I started watching the original Japanese anime, I got too see her in an entirely new light. I began to see that there was a lot more to her except for being a Sasuke fangirl and being wallpaper paste. I saw her defend Naruto and Sasuke, cut off her hair and her fight with Ino. I began to see that underneath her prudish, uptight and mean exterior, she was a flawed, human and dare i say, even tragic character, what with her being bullied as a kid, her friendship/rivalry with Ino, wanting to be accepted by the "cool, popular guy", her confidence issues, etc.

When I later found out that there was actually a manga too (imagine THAT huh?! ) that just further cemented her place as my favorite female Naruto character. That's also why that when I began to get into the fandom a little over a year ago, that i was stunned to see just how much people hated her and the NS pairing, so yeah that really sucked.

Despite all that though, like I said earlier, I've never once hated her. Maybe it because instead of blaming her whenever she said/did something I didn't like, I blamed Kishimoto. Afterall, he's the one writing the story.

As for Hinata, I don't think that Hinata doesn't deserve Naruto. I hate it when people use that argument agains NS, that Sakura doesn't "deserve" Naruto because of the way she treats him now or used to treat him. The thing is, love isn't about who does or doesn't "deserves" who. Its about learning to accept eachother for who you are and forming a deep special understanding. Something that NS has in spades. Sakura knows that Naruto is kinda brash, a bit dense and a mega perv, but she still accepts him for who he is. Likewise, Naruto knows that Sakura is hot headed, violent (when need be ) and sometimes diffuclt to figure out, but he still accepts her for who she is too.

With NH, I just don't see that kind of chemistry. Hinata still doesn't really know who Naruto is and what he has gone through. Likewise Naruto doesn't really know a whole lot about who Hinata is, other than she is shy, has a dark past with her clan and that she is in love with him. But still NH just doesn't have the same level of...intimacy. Naruto and Sakura have been through a lot together. They've seen eachother at both their best and their worst and they've been there to pick eachoter up most of the time. Sure, they still have a lot of unresolved issues to deal with, but im fairly confident that those will be worked out before the end of the manga.

Edited by TerrorKing, 04 July 2011 - 01:07 AM.

[Gravenimage]

I wish Kishi would give Tenten some development she deserves it more than Hinata honestly.