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#4421 FoolishYoungling

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:24 AM

I doubt that the 1b berry bounty is real. It came off like one of Usopp's lies. Plus Jack said that his subordinates talk too much. Not only that, but the scaling if the bounty makes zero sense. Up until now, the highest we had seen wa 500 million by Don Chinjao. It makes no sense for there to be a 500 million berry bounty between two characters from arcs that are right next to each other. Jinbe said that once you hit 400, it becomes really difficult to move up after. Until I see an actual bounty, I'll not believe it, because Luffy is only at 500, and anyone having a 1b bounty that isn't an emperor is sorta garbage imo.

Edit: Also, there's the fact that his trunk attack got stopped by the Duke with a single hand. If he was that much stronger, there wouldn't be anything left of ole yeller.

Yes the Duke stopped him. Why wouldn't he? That wasn't one of his ultimate attacks. To be an emperor's right hand man means he has several special attacks. Just charging forward isn't one of his top 20 techniques. And remember this is the New World. Why should only the government, marines, and pirates be strong?

 

We have found here, a New World island (on an elephant) that isn't afraid of anyone. I'm sure this won't be the last island we find full of men and women that can fight back and kill most of an emperor's army before their defeat.

 

I think a better question is, why isn't Zou protected under the Red Hair flag? If the Duke said he and the other king were friends with Shanks out on the sea, shouldn't Shanks put his protection on Zou?


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:51 AM

Well, bounty in this series doesn't truly mean power level like in DBZ.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 07:21 AM

Yes the Duke stopped him. Why wouldn't he? That wasn't one of his ultimate attacks. To be an emperor's right hand man means he has several special attacks. Just charging forward isn't one of his top 20 techniques. And remember this is the New World. Why should only the government, marines, and pirates be strong?
 
We have found here, a New World island (on an elephant) that isn't afraid of anyone. I'm sure this won't be the last island we find full of men and women that can fight back and kill most of an emperor's army before their defeat.
 
I think a better question is, why isn't Zou protected under the Red Hair flag? If the Duke said he and the other king were friends with Shanks out on the sea, shouldn't Shanks put his protection on Zou?

Yeah, it doesn't matter. He stopped it with one hand. He didn't even try. If he was really worth that much, something like that, no matter how casual, should at least not be stopped with a single hand. The 1b bounty makes no sense in comparison to all the other bounties we've seen, nor with what he displayed. Keep this in mind, we already know that Zou was overtaken not because of Jack's strength, but because he played with one of Ceaser's toys. If he was worth 1b, double both Luffy and Laws worth, why the hell would he need a chemical weapon to beat an bunch of islanders. The minks had his gang on the ropes until he used the bomb, then they lost. That's not something a 1b bounty person would even need to consider doing.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:11 PM

Well you know, if you know Shanks, you're automatically strong. Lol.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:21 PM

Well you know, if you know Shanks, you're automatically strong. Lol.

Yep, we all know Buggy is the strongest character in one piece.

 


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 12:27 PM

Yep, we all know Buggy is the strongest character in one piece.

The rule wasn't made yet. Plus, he's a shichibukai. Ah. Lol. Saved!

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 01:57 PM

Yeah, it doesn't matter. He stopped it with one hand. He didn't even try. If he was really worth that much, something like that, no matter how casual, should at least not be stopped with a single hand. The 1b bounty makes no sense in comparison to all the other bounties we've seen, nor with what he displayed. Keep this in mind, we already know that Zou was overtaken not because of Jack's strength, but because he played with one of Ceaser's toys. If he was worth 1b, double both Luffy and Laws worth, why the hell would he need a chemical weapon to beat an bunch of islanders. The minks had his gang on the ropes until he used the bomb, then they lost. That's not something a 1b bounty person would even need to consider doing.

Like I said, he hasn't shown us anything yet. Also, if you noticed, the Duke was panting. Jack was going to end him, but then it was time for them to rotate. It is 2 guys that are both stronger than Luffy taking their turn with Jack. Jack would eventually lose. Remember an admiral fight took like a week or something. What's to say this fight wouldn't take 2 days at least?

That's Jack taking on 4 stronger than Luffy guys one after the other. He had no other choice but to unleash a weapon to end their odds of successfully killing him with them taking turns. Also, these two kings are old pirates. They're no Rayleighs, but they probably knew Roger growing up. You know how those kind of characters end up being. Also, Rayleigh would kill Jack, because Roger is much stronger than Kaido. So his crew is better. They don't need to be like him to take turns and overcome Jack.

Just remember that Jack is supposed to be stronger than an admiral being a right hand to an emperor. Where is that stronger than admiral power at? We've seen next to nothing from Jack. Notice how he turns back into a human before the chapter ends? He isn't playing their little game. Here comes the poison.


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 02:02 PM

It'll be funny if he get destroyed in a chapter if he shows up to face Strawhats crew.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 03:05 PM

Like I said, he hasn't shown us anything yet. Also, if you noticed, the Duke was panting. Jack was going to end him, but then it was time for them to rotate. It is 2 guys that are both stronger than Luffy taking their turn with Jack. Jack would eventually lose. Remember an admiral fight took like a week or something. What's to say this fight wouldn't take 2 days at least?
That's Jack taking on 4 stronger than Luffy guys one after the other. He had no other choice but to unleash a weapon to end their odds of successfully killing him with them taking turns. Also, these two kings are old pirates. They're no Rayleighs, but they probably knew Roger growing up. You know how those kind of characters end up being. Also, Rayleigh would kill Jack, because Roger is much stronger than Kaido. So his crew is better. They don't need to be like him to take turns and overcome Jack.
Just remember that Jack is supposed to be stronger than an admiral being a right hand to an emperor. Where is that stronger than admiral power at? We've seen next to nothing from Jack. Notice how he turns back into a human before the chapter ends? He isn't playing their little game. Here comes the poison.

You have absolutely zero evidence to say that the Duke is stronger than Luffy, or anybody else for that matter. The dog wasn't panting when he stopped Jacks attack with one hand.

You bringing up Rayleigh has zero relevance.

Also, you have zero evidence to suggest that Jack is stronger than an admiral. Actually there is evidence to suggest the opposite, considering that he attacked the ship carrying Doflamingo and got destroyed so badly they didn't know if he was dead or alive.

Once again, the bounty scale doesn't make sense. If he was that strong he wouldn't need to use the poison. His bounty doesn't make sense in comparison to the rest of the story we've seen. It's most definitely a lie.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 03:09 PM

To be fair, Sengoku and others were there. Isn't he alone top tier? But anyway, I guess we'll see. Either Jack is in for a squash match or put up a challenge...if he is the boss of this arc.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 03:18 PM

Kizaru stopped fighting in the war when Beckman just held up his gun. First mates/second-in-command of an emperor's crew hold the power to kill admirals. Maybe not the fleet admiral. Also, I just looked it up. Apparently Kaido has 3 right hand men. Luffy isn't ready for this level yet. Timeskip #2? :hehehe:


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 03:55 PM

Kizaru stopped fighting in the war when Beckman just held up his gun. First mates/second-in-command of an emperor's crew hold the power to kill admirals. Maybe not the fleet admiral. Also, I just looked it up. Apparently Kaido has 3 right hand men. Luffy isn't ready for this level yet. Timeskip #2? :hehehe:


Don't be ridiculous. Kizaru was acting according to his character when he did that. He did the same thing against Marco and Rayleigh, where it was clear he wasn't really being serious. Marco, the first mate of the strongest pirate, wasn't an even match against Kizaru or Akainu. Your claim is busted right there. Luffy would take Jack without much problem, especially if it came to G4. Nice try though.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 04:43 PM

Don't be ridiculous. Kizaru was acting according to his character when he did that. He did the same thing against Marco and Rayleigh, where it was clear he wasn't really being serious. Marco, the first mate of the strongest pirate, wasn't an even match against Kizaru or Akainu. Your claim is busted right there. Luffy would take Jack without much problem, especially if it came to G4. Nice try though.

Well Whitebeard was training Ace to surpass Marco. Seems Marco wasn't a great second-in-command. In terms of strength at least.


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 05:26 PM

Well Whitebeard was training Ace to surpass Marco. Seems Marco wasn't a great second-in-command. In terms of strength at least.


What anatomical crevice did you pull that gem from?

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 06:41 PM

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which episode is this from? lmao


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 07:08 PM

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which episode is this from? lmao

It's a filler episode after they get off sky island, but I forget the episode number.

 


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 07:10 PM

It's a filler episode after they get off sky island, but I forget the episode number.

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Posted 08 December 2015 - 07:14 PM

thanks

No problem. It's actually a pretty good filler arc in my opinion. So, I think it's worth a watch.

 


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Posted 08 December 2015 - 08:36 PM

No problem. It's actually a pretty good filler arc in my opinion. So, I think it's worth a watch.

Yeah, it's often to be used as an example of a good filler arc. I too like it. Actually, I didn't know it was until I read it.

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Posted 10 December 2015 - 02:47 AM

Crying because there won't be a chapter tomorrow :cry:

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