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[Bail o' Lies]

So not sure if this has been brought up and to be honest I don't follow much of Naruto other then w.e some brat posts on instagram and I happen to see that Boruto has some eye power that is only possible because of his bloodlines. Got me thinking this is why Kishi chose this as the final pairings….

 

Also why is Boruto just Sasuke with blond hair…smh kishi, should have just wrote a sasuke manga..

No. The pairing were decided by SP. Kishimoto actually forgot to give either of those brats byakugan eyes. Those eyes you are seeing are tenseigan from the Last which was another thing that SP came up with to give Hinata some importance. Anything you see in the anime is most likely thought up by SP because of their obsession with hniata, and since Bolt is her son he must be powerful it is not because he Naruto's.

[Shashank95]

Apparently the very second episode of Boruto is a filler and the crappy animations are back,

 

[Namaenash]

My eyes aren't playing tricks on me.. right???
 
 

Everyone knows Hinata, NH or SS doesn't really sell in Japan. There's hardly any moments of them after The Last. And the final episode of Naruto which was NH/Hinata centric didn't even made it to the top ranks for anime broadcast that week.

What else do you expect? :)

[Namaenash]

My eyes aren't playing tricks on me.. right???
 
 

Everyone knows Hinata, NH or SS doesn't really sell in Japan. There's hardly any moments of them after The Last. And the final episode of Naruto which was NH/Hinata centric didn't even made it to the top ranks for anime broadcast that week.

What else do you expect? :)

[Phantom_999]

Yes, flop!!!!!! Flop more!!!!!!

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 April 2017 - 05:08 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Everyone knows Hinata, NH or SS doesn't really sell in Japan. There's hardly any moments of them after The Last. And the final episode of Naruto which was NH/Hinata centric didn't even made it to the top ranks for anime broadcast that week.

What else do you expect? :)

So what do you think their general reaction is to the clone that got some much focus last episode? I would guess it in general would been, "again?"

[T XD]

So not sure if this has been brought up and to be honest I don't follow much of Naruto other then w.e some brat posts on instagram and I happen to see that Boruto has some eye power that is only possible because of his bloodlines. Got me thinking this is why Kishi chose this as the final pairings….

 

Also why is Boruto just Sasuke with blond hair…smh kishi, should have just wrote a sasuke manga..

Boruto could have gotten any other power up/s by bloodline XD

[gamma]

Alright you guys who is the best overall in the series?

 

Sakura or Rin? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Honestly I liked both characters, but with Sakura atleast nowadays is hard on me because sometimes the 699 will just creep in (except when I rewatch RTN for some reason)   and I'll just be like ugh.. potential you could've been better.  Now from a combat standpoint we never really got to see what Rin could really do in the series. So I can say in terms of combat Sakura would be better,  but at character's standpoint Rin was better because we got to see where her character ended up alongside Obito. I mean I love seeing cool action moments, but I'm also more a story and character kinda guy  so for me personally I'd honestly have to say Rin. 

 

What about you guys? 

 

That's such a pretty picture! They're both sort of equals to me. Good, but both could have been better of course (potential!). And they're even paralleled to one another! But I'll tilt towards Rin with this since she had more story behind her, like you said.

 

It'll forever grind my gears at how Kishimoto could just care less with developing his female characters any further than just giving them a name and a love interest, it sucks so much tbh.

[Namaenash]

So what do you think their general reaction is to the clone that got some much focus last episode? I would guess it in general would been, "again?"

 

Since me or my colleagues are not the carbon copy of all Naruto fans in Japan, I'm not really sure how the general reaction was :)

 

Most of my colleagues dropped the series the moment it ended the way it is. So, I hardly heard anything from them again about Naruto.

 

General consensus were: the series is quickly fading into the background, although new Boruto series is started. Let's see how it goes.

[sushi.]

Rin reminds me a lot of Lyanna Stark ya know. If you've seen GoT, she was torn between two men and died and that catalysed the big war..

 

I'm just. kinda tired of the whole trope, using simply the memory of a dead woman to provoke bloody vengeances.  

 

Namaenash are you from Japan?

[Bail o' Lies]

 

Since me or my colleagues are not the carbon copy of all Naruto fans in Japan, I'm not really sure how the general reaction was :)

 

Most of my colleagues dropped the series the moment it ended the way it is. So, I hardly heard anything from them again about Naruto.

 

General consensus were: the series is quickly fading into the background, although new Boruto series is started. Let's see how it goes.

So the general reaction you see from you colleagues is don't care...works for me.

 

Rin reminds me a lot of Lyanna Stark ya know. If you've seen GoT, she was torn between two men and died and that catalysed the big war..

 

I'm just. kinda tired of the whole trope, using simply the memory of a dead woman to provoke bloody vengeances.

 

Namaenash are you from Japan?

From what I recall she works for a company that has a branch in Japan. Which is why she visit Japan and has many colleagues that are from and live in Japan.

[rocci]

That's not a picture done by SP. That's a pic of  a mobile game made in Japan.
 
Japan knows NS. Studio Pierrot for NH

Well, studio pierot is japan, so...

@sushi
No she doesn't like lyana because she's your typical kindhearted girl, kind of like lily from hp.

Edited by rocci, 16 April 2017 - 07:23 AM.

[T XD]

Well, studio pierot is japan, so...

@sushi
No she doesn't like lyana because she's your typical kindhearted girl, kind of like lily from hp.

SP is in Japan, but they're not doing what Japan wants.

[rocci]

SP is in Japan, but they're not doing what Japan wants.

It's still a Japanese animation studio done by Japanese. While I don't think they're represent japan to say they're not (part of) japan is wrong. Anyway if japan want NS, then sakura would be number one in polling poll undisputed like nami from op.

[BlueStarSaber]

Rin reminds me a lot of Lyanna Stark ya know. If you've seen GoT, she was torn between two men and died and that catalysed the big war..

 

I'm just. kinda tired of the whole trope, using simply the memory of a dead woman to provoke bloody vengeances.

 

Namaenash are you from Japan?

 

In the books Lyanaa is more described by Ned as: 

“ You never knew Lyanna as I did, Robert. You saw her beauty, but not the iron underneath.^[13] ”
 

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 16 April 2017 - 12:10 PM.

[sushi.]

 
In the books Lyanaa is more described by Ned as: 
You never knew Lyanna as I did, Robert. You saw her beauty, but not the iron underneath.^[13]
 

I never said Rin or or Lyanba were weak smh

They were just used in a similar way

[Bail o' Lies]

I never said Rin or or Lyanba were weak smh

They were just used in a similar way

What your thinking of is "The Lost Lenore." 

 

http://tvtropes.org/...n/TheLostLenore

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 16 April 2017 - 12:21 PM.

[hinataiscreepy]

Its also the same with Kojima as well he ended the story at Metal gear solid 4 timeline I mean he said in an interview that the only true MGS games are Metal gear 1 and 2 for the MSX metal gear soild 1,2,3,4,5 and Metal gear soild peace walker anything else does not count and said fans should not count the newer game Konami do.

 

I know from what I looked up Konami really messed up MGS 5 cut things out as they wanted it out for gamers hence why Kojima was fired from them.

 

But James as for Kishi well the fact is he is spineless just like Hinata is, this is what Kishi will always been known for now in my eyes.

 

He does not hesitate to call out his fans that misinterpreted MGS2 instead of pandering to their disillusions. In an ironic twist, fans are starting that MGS2 may be one of the most brilliant creation ever because of how it predicted the world would turn out.  He actually brought closure to the series and made Snake old so that Konami would not be able to use his character for more pointless sequels which is the opposite of Naruto where Kishi leaves characters with no real closures and ongoing family drams so we keep reading. 

[VanitasDS76491]

He does not hesitate to call out his fans that misinterpreted MGS2 instead of pandering to their disillusions. In an ironic twist, fans are starting that MGS2 may be one of the most brilliant creation ever because of how it predicted the world would turn out.  He actually brought closure to the series and made Snake old so that Konami would not be able to use his character for more pointless sequels which is the opposite of Naruto where Kishi leaves characters with no real closures and ongoing family drams so we keep reading.

Exactly thats why Kojima is a awesome writer and kishi sucks. Kojima's character have detph and arc where naruto's do have those but no to little payoff or are forgotten or go no where. I like that he end mgs4 the way he did so solid snake can't be used like how the fast movies retired Paul walkers character after fast 7.

[Namaenash]

Rin reminds me a lot of Lyanna Stark ya know. If you've seen GoT, she was torn between two men and died and that catalysed the big war..

 

I'm just. kinda tired of the whole trope, using simply the memory of a dead woman to provoke bloody vengeances.

 

Namaenash are you from Japan?

 

No, I'm not from Japan. Though I used to live there for my bachelor degree and master degree, before I flew elsewhere. In recent years, I typically visit Japan at least once in every two years, depending on my work schedule.

 

 

It's still a Japanese animation studio done by Japanese. While I don't think they're represent japan to say they're not (part of) japan is wrong. Anyway if japan want NS, then sakura would be number one in polling poll undisputed like nami from op.

 

I suppose, my original intent was to point out that when it comes to people who are willing to spend money, typically they won't advertise NH or SS; much like in the past (even before the ending). It's either Naruto & Sasuke or Team 7. Not necessarily NS, although we now know that NS was probably the one financing the series all along. Again, if you talk about statistics, the basic rule is: correlation does not imply causation.

 

Based on the facts, you cannot make a statement: "with NH/SS, the manga sales went up by 10% or X%", because that's not the case. It's the other way around. In fact, if you tally up the numbers, these two fandom combined, results in a mere less than 20% of the overall historical sales, if you compare against Boruto sales (a product of NH/SS). Google out "pareto principle", and you see how it plays in this whole event.

 

You can make a statement like this though: "without NS, the manga sales dropped by ~80%". Heck, you can probably make an inductive reasoning if you're up to it. haha... In simple English, it means that the statement is not necessarily true, but it's also not incorrect.

 

While we're at it, let's bring out some numbers out for Japanese manga sales of this series (google out in the internet to get the source):

 

Stats as at April 2015 for Recent Naruto Manga Sales in Japan:
2009 - 6,836,494 copies
2010 - 7,409,068 copies
2011 - 6,874,840 copies
2012 - 6,495,240 copies
2013 - 5,553,933 copies

2014 - Naruto series was not in the top 5 best selling manga series (we all know what happened that year)...

 

There's easily 4-5 volumes in each year, but in general, you compare your manga performance YoY (year-over-year). After all, that's how mostly companies do their accounting, so, it's a pretty natural method of evaluating two or more sales measure, so we can compare the results at one time period with those of a comparable time period on an annualized basis.

 

Now compare the above numbers with the current Boruto manga sales. Albeit it's only volume 1, try to see its trends (from volume 1 to the next volumes, which, by the way, trending down). You'll come up with the same conclusion as I did.