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#44141 VanitasDS76491

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 10:29 AM

It's monthly ? Then I change what I said. Boruto manga will at least take 4 - 5 years to finish.


I say less time.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 04:44 PM

 

Because Oda is his own boss and if he doesn't like what his editor says he quickly says" NO I don't like it" unlike Kishi who will say yes to anything his crazy Hinata fan editors would say like he was a mindless zombie.

 

If Oda's editors tells him" Luffy should never become king of the pirates" do you think Oda would agree with him??? Hell NO. 

Exactly, because Oda knows his worth AND he knows the value of his story. He knows that his story pays the bills and that he wants to do it the way he wants to. Not because the studio tells him too. An editor is supposed to be a consultant and a grammar fixer. Not the writer themselves. That is not their job.

He knows that his story helps pay the bills. He knows that it is his story that gives them jobs and while he might respect his fellow crew, he reminds them that the chain of command goes up, not down. Any and all decisions are up to him. Sure he may take their advice now and then if he sees it as being a better outcome, but if he is determined that "This has to happen" he will do it. The only thing that might change is how he gets there.

Same with Ken Akumatsu. Remember when the studio tried to make him set up Negima in such a way that would allow them to make sequels? Or something....what did he do? He made his own story end in such a way that they couldn't just profit off his work and destroy it. He may not have gotten what he wanted, but at least he made sure they didn't either.

I wish Kishimoto was more like these two and many other manga writers out there.

There is no excuse why Kishimoto couldn't stand up whether legal or not seeing other writers standing up to people. Even some mangaka standing up to their own fans by saying "No"


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Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:12 AM

Exactly, because Oda knows his worth AND he knows the value of his story. He knows that his story pays the bills and that he wants to do it the way he wants to. Not because the studio tells him too. An editor is supposed to be a consultant and a grammar fixer. Not the writer themselves. That is not their job.

He knows that his story helps pay the bills. He knows that it is his story that gives them jobs and while he might respect his fellow crew, he reminds them that the chain of command goes up, not down. Any and all decisions are up to him. Sure he may take their advice now and then if he sees it as being a better outcome, but if he is determined that "This has to happen" he will do it. The only thing that might change is how he gets there.

Same with Ken Akumatsu. Remember when the studio tried to make him set up Negima in such a way that would allow them to make sequels? Or something....what did he do? He made his own story end in such a way that they couldn't just profit off his work and destroy it. He may not have gotten what he wanted, but at least he made sure they didn't either.

I wish Kishimoto was more like these two and many other manga writers out there.

There is no excuse why Kishimoto couldn't stand up whether legal or not seeing other writers standing up to people. Even some mangaka standing up to their own fans by saying "No"

Its also the same with Kojima as well he ended the story at Metal gear solid 4 timeline I mean he said in an interview that the only true MGS games are Metal gear 1 and 2 for the MSX metal gear soild 1,2,3,4,5 and Metal gear soild peace walker anything else does not count and said fans should not count the newer game Konami do.

 

I know from what I looked up Konami really messed up MGS 5 cut things out as they wanted it out for gamers hence why Kojima was fired from them.

 

But James as for Kishi well the fact is he is spineless just like Hinata is, this is what Kishi will always been known for now in my eyes.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:43 AM

Its also the same with Kojima as well he ended the story at Metal gear solid 4 timeline I mean he said in an interview that the only true MGS games are Metal gear 1 and 2 for the MSX metal gear soild 1,2,3,4,5 and Metal gear soild peace walker anything else does not count and said fans should not count the newer game Konami do.
 
I know from what I looked up Konami really messed up MGS 5 cut things out as they wanted it out for gamers hence why Kojima was fired from them.
 
But James as for Kishi well the fact is he is spineless just like Hinata is, this is what Kishi will always been known for now in my eyes.

Interesting never knew that about kojima. So it's konmai' s fault mgs5 was an incomplete mess from what I've heard.
That's all kishi is now a spineless coward. Didn't kubo do the same as oda up til the ending? Also oda is a better writing and has thongs planned out from the start and I've heard one piece is basically his life to where he gold his editors they have to die for one piece. Wish me luck on Sunday cause I'm going to be watching the bolt movie.
You think naruto can be tricked into opening the lamet configuration? You think if ns happened hinata would try to kill sakura and wear sakura' s skin to get close to naruto, tell me she wouldn't do that.

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Posted 01 April 2017 - 08:25 PM

kishi probably did all of naruto and boruto so he could finally find someway to make naruto and sasuke family. i. e boruto and sarada or w.e the f her name is



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 08:53 PM

kishi probably did all of naruto and boruto so he could finally find someway to make naruto and sasuke family. i. e boruto and sarada or w.e the f her name is

Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura families could've been made with NS and SK families, or Sasuke staying single which is the best for him after seeing he's still the same on " I prefer to spend more time alone ". But, they chose what they think the fans want. 


Edited by T XD, 03 April 2017 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 01 April 2017 - 10:06 PM

Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura families could've been made with NS and SK families, or Sasuke staying single which is the best for him after seeing he's still the same on " I prefer to spend more time alone ". But, they chose what they think the fans want. Such a good result it was.


Agreed shina and sarada could have gotten together and it would be so much better, cause Shina is a much more likeable and interesting character than bolt.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 05:40 AM

And don't forget anything resembling NS's romance is a red herring :zaru:


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:51 AM

And don't forget anything resembling NS's romance is a red herring :zaru:

Boruto x Sarada, but we know they'll pair them up :P



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 09:46 PM

If they do let's call all of SP hypocrites and throw their merch back at them, then call Kishi a hypocrite and burn his Naruto vols in front of him, I have vols 31 -66 :hehehe:


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:28 PM

If they do let's all oll pf SP hypocrites and throw their merch back at them, then call Kishi a hypocrite and burn his Naruto vols in front of him, I have vols 31 -66 :hehehe:

It doesn't seem Kishimoto have much control over this series since the war arcs in Shippuden.


Edited by T XD, 03 April 2017 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:39 PM

It doesn't seem Kishimoto have much control over this series since the war arcs in Shippuden.

at the end of the day, they only control as much as Kishimoto ALLOWS them to control. It's his story, he's putting in all the work. Kishimoto is just too yellow-bellied to put his foot down and do the story his way.


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:43 PM

So I just got done reading A Silent Voice, and damn that was such an emotional story to read not gonna lie.  I'll say this the redemption arc Shoya goes through is just amazing and definetly outshines the halfassed thing Kishi did with Sasuke. 

 

 

 

Also just a side thing, but after the ending of the manga:

 

I'm Shoya x Shouko all the way: 

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Come at me SasuSaku fans? Tell me how your so called redemption story between Sasuke and Sakura outshines this?? 

 

 

Oh wait that's right you can't because IT'S NOT GENUINE  like Shoya and Shouko's!!


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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:50 PM

[quote name="LuckyChi7" post="936206" timestamp="1491259405"]So I just got done reading A Silent Voice, and damn that was such an emotional story to read not gonna lie.  I'll say this the redemption arc Shoya goes through is just amazing and definetly outshines the halfassed thing Kishi did with Sasuke. 
 
 
 
Also just a side thing, but after the ending of the manga:
 
I'm Shoya x Shouko all the way: 
 
 
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Come at me SasuSaku fans? Tell me how your so called redemption story between Sasuke and Sakura outshines this?? 
 
 
Oh wait that's right you can't because IT'S NOT GENUINE  like Shoya and Shouko's!![/quote
Anakin, Riku, Tommy from power rangers redemption and several others are better than sasuke's, especially riku and vegeta.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 10:51 PM

So I just got done reading A Silent Voice, and damn that was such an emotional story to read not gonna lie.  I'll say this the redemption arc Shoya goes through is just amazing and definetly outshines the halfassed thing Kishi did with Sasuke. 

 

 

 

Also just a side thing, but after the ending of the manga:

 

I'm Shoya x Shouko all the way: 

 

 

16fd0f2e566e6ee761f1ba8f398ea97f.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Come at me SasuSaku fans? Tell me how your so called redemption story between Sasuke and Sakura outshines this?? 

 

 

Oh wait that's right you can't because IT'S NOT GENUINE  like Shoya and Shouko's!!

I don't think I have ever seen sasuke hold Sakura's hand



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:04 PM

I don't think I have ever seen sasuke hold Sakura's hand


Doubt they've done anything a couple does.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:07 PM

Doubt they've done anything a couple does.

 

Kissing being top on the list



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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:18 PM

For the record, Luckychi, if you remember the podcast about last episode of Naruto Shippuden, that was the one I was referring to. That last moment. Honestly, it took me a while before I stop thinking about it.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:38 PM

Kissing being top on the list


They probably never even kissed which makes how Sakura had Sarada even more baffling. I mean they had a chance in the end of Gaiden but no sasuke just up and leaves like the kitten he is.

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Posted 03 April 2017 - 11:48 PM

Doubt they've done anything a couple does.

 

Not even a kiss.


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